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Paterno Legacy [review of Jay's book]
philly.com ^ | 8-6-14 | Stan Hochman

Posted on 08/06/2014 7:34:38 AM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: FlJoePa
"I told them," Jay said yesterday, "that that is the way I was raised. As a son, as a player, as a coach. Get to a meeting 10 minutes early..."

"...If you see something that looks very very wrong, turn away and think about recruiting."

61 posted on 08/06/2014 10:15:39 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: TexasGator

I won’t argue with that. MM is a liar though. We don’t know what his motivations are/were for his actions and testimony. I suspect he was being subtly (or not so subtly) blackmailed by the OAG w/ regard to his gambling (on games he coached) and his penis pictures to PSU co-ed.


62 posted on 08/06/2014 10:17:59 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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Joe didn’t have any “suspicions”. He had a sketchy 2nd hand account.

Sandusky would sit on the dais at official Penn State football functions, with an 11-year-old boy for a date. After the function ended Sandusky and his date would share a hotel room.

Joe didn't have any suspicions.

63 posted on 08/06/2014 10:18:27 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: FlJoePa
Even McQueary is on record as saying Joe handled everything perfectly.

McQueary - the guy who saw a boy getting raped and didn't call the police. He let the rapist leave with the boy but called his own father to help him through his ordeal.

64 posted on 08/06/2014 10:20:09 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: FlJoePa

” Even McQueary is on record as saying Joe handled everything perfectly. “

JP and the lead prosecutor are on record saying JP did not handle ‘everything perfectly’.


65 posted on 08/06/2014 10:22:57 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: FlJoePa

See 33...rinse...repeat


66 posted on 08/06/2014 10:31:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: FlJoePa
But you think he should have grabbed a baseball bat?

If it had been one of my boys in that shower, you can bet I would have wanted that.

67 posted on 08/06/2014 10:40:53 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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“He let the rapist leave with the boy but called his own father to help him through his ordeal.”

Father to MM: Go talk to JP. He will know what to do.

JP to MM: hmmm. We will have to think about what to do.


68 posted on 08/06/2014 10:52:21 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: FlJoePa

“Jay’s book will be out next month. He’s actually a very good writer. “

Who knows what he wrote. What you see has been engineered by the well paid JP historical revision society.


69 posted on 08/06/2014 10:53:46 AM PDT by TexasGator
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"If it had been one of my boys in that shower, you can bet I would have wanted that."

OK. But that's not the case. Stop injecting hypotheticals into the discussion.

Allan Myers (V2) is on record as saying nothing happened in the shower. Of course, once he got an attorney (the same attorney as NINE other victims) along with a memory repression expert, he filed and then settled w/ PSU.

Why not? Free money. His justification was that abuse took place AFTER 2001 - away from campus. And still the University signed the check - even though the OAG wanted nothing to do with him because he (at the time) contradicted their case.

70 posted on 08/06/2014 11:04:11 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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Stop injecting hypotheticals into the discussion.

No. If I want to make an observation based on a hypothetical situation, you can bet I will do so... and without asking your permission first.

My point is, sometimes picking up the ball bat is exactly what ethics require us to do.

71 posted on 08/06/2014 11:06:45 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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I’ll take the baseball bat to the media and freeh. Add in the ncaa, big ten, the PSU b.o.t. - specifically Peetz (CEO BNY Mellon), Surma (former CEO US Steel), and Frazier (CEO Merck).

They are the ones responsible for this false narrative to which you subscribe.


72 posted on 08/06/2014 11:11:42 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Really? You think the sports conferences and the media had it out for Paterno? He was one of the best-loved figures in sports.


73 posted on 08/06/2014 11:17:16 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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The media hated Joe. The ncaa hated Joe. The B1G hated Joe.

They never understood him and assumed him to be a fraud. When he won with players he demanded go to class and make something out of themselves outside of football, he made them all look bad.

Jay says in his book that (paraphrasing) “They wanted to tear it down so they could rebuild it and take credit for it”.

There wasn’t anything to tear down. PSU ran/runs a model ncaa Athletic Department. There is no denying this, and it has always been this way. Other than Stanford, no one else even comes close.


74 posted on 08/06/2014 11:24:02 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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That is quite a model. I am not aware of any other college athletic departments that allowed one of their coaches to bring a little boy along to an away game as a “guest” sharing a hotel room with the coach.


75 posted on 08/06/2014 11:39:23 AM PDT by bluetick
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To: FlJoePa

“The media hated Joe. The ncaa hated Joe. The B1G hated Joe.”

What has that to do with JP covering up a pedophile ring?


76 posted on 08/06/2014 11:42:14 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: bluetick

You left out the part where Dottie was there (1999 Alamo Bowl) as well. JS was constantly around kids, and involved them in everything he did. This surprised or concerned no one (at the time) around campus or around the University.


77 posted on 08/06/2014 11:42:42 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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“PSU ran/runs a model ncaa Athletic Department.”

The one that awards a pedophile access to their facilities?


78 posted on 08/06/2014 11:44:28 AM PDT by TexasGator
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” JS was constantly around kids, and involved them in everything he did. This surprised or concerned no one (at the time) around campus or around the University.”

Of course it surprised no one. They all knew but looked the other way.


79 posted on 08/06/2014 11:48:44 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: FlJoePa

Dottie? Is she the woman that looked the other way while the coach had a sleepover with a little boy in the basement?


80 posted on 08/06/2014 11:49:41 AM PDT by bluetick
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