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California couple struggling after being forced to pay deceased daughter’s student loans
FoxNews ^ | Agu 6, 2014 | Fox News

Posted on 08/06/2014 6:47:14 AM PDT by Innovative

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To: Innovative

If this is a private loan from a bank, a threat of filing a bankruptcy might bring the lender to the bargaining table.

“School loans” are not (in most cases) dischargeable, but a regular loan used for school, a car, or whatever, is.


21 posted on 08/06/2014 7:02:50 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Innovative

The moral responsibility would be Life insurance.


22 posted on 08/06/2014 7:03:03 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Texas Eagle

that statement floored me. we would be responsible but didn’t know the debt would fall to them? what do they think responsible means?


23 posted on 08/06/2014 7:03:35 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: aomagrat

And never place your name on any of your kids Insurance.


24 posted on 08/06/2014 7:04:32 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Texas Eagle

She probably did what a lot of kids do - take out a loan far in excess of the cost of the education so that they can live off the loan money while in school (nice apartment/rent house, new car, new clothes, etc.).


25 posted on 08/06/2014 7:05:11 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: painter
If you co-sign on a loan for your kids or anyone get a tern life insurance policy for the amount of the loan on that person.

Good advice. I just co-signed a car loan for my 25YO son. It's a good thing I like the car; I told him the first time he's late with a payment, it's my car, and he'll have to take public transit to get to work.

26 posted on 08/06/2014 7:05:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Innovative
When my kid wanted me to co-sign for a car loan, I instead loaned her the entire amount of the purchase. That way, she saved on interest, and if she defaulted or couldn't pay me back for whatever reason, I would only be out the amount I loaned, as opposed to the amount of the loan plus all the interest and penalties that accrued had I co-signed.
27 posted on 08/06/2014 7:08:54 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Nevadan

I am the only person here, who asked where is her husband, where is the father or fathers of her children.

I’m not trying to moralize here, but where did those 3 kids come from? A young single girl with 3 kids is taking on enormous debt?

Why are grandma and grandpa raising the kids, apparently alone? What about father(s)? At a bare minimum, there should be some child support coming in to the grandparents.


28 posted on 08/06/2014 7:08:54 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Innovative

This is a sad story, but, as others pointed out, they did co-sign for the loan (something I have refused to do, even for close family members).

When my wife and I bought our first home I took out an insurance policy that would pay off the house if I were to die. Perhaps others can learn from this situation. If you feel you must co-sign, insist they primary person has a life insurance policy to pay off the loan if the worse happens.

On the general subject of student loans I believe they are nothing more than indenture servant laws. The game is rigged and not in the person receiving the loans favor. I advice anyone that ask to never take out a student loan. There are other options that do not require you to sign your life away.


29 posted on 08/06/2014 7:09:30 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: cloudmountain
They aren't off the hook for the debt, though. Maybe some sharp attorney will advise them to do something clever. I hope so.

As I recall, student loans cannot be cleared by bankruptcy, for the student borrower, but I don't know if the same holds true for a co-signer of the loan. They might look into this angle........................

30 posted on 08/06/2014 7:09:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: camle

Perhaps the 100,000 increased to 200,000 due to accrued unpaid interest.

But, to double the principle, there would have to be unpaid interest over a period of many years for that to happen.


31 posted on 08/06/2014 7:09:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: QBFimi

Exactly. Some banks also provide such a policy that can be included in the loan, don’t they?


32 posted on 08/06/2014 7:09:59 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Innovative

Still. The fact that you can’t bankrupt out of these is idiocy. Why do you thing the Founding Fathers put bankruptcy in the constitution? Historical discussions make it CLEAR it is NOT to favor one creditor over another as to what you can bankrupt out of and what you can not.

But. As we well know. Our Government only uses the Constitution when it conveniences them.


33 posted on 08/06/2014 7:10:46 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Dilbert San Diego

with student loan interests well below market, there would have to be some sort of chicanery in order for the principle to double. non payment for years, plus continued borrowing?
or it could just be lousy reporting, getting the figures messed up. math comes so hard to a lot of journalism cretins


34 posted on 08/06/2014 7:12:57 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Nevadan
The lender would not have made the loan had they not co-signed.

But you're right.

Why should they be responsible for a loan they co-signed for if the borrower dies when they weren't expecting it?

35 posted on 08/06/2014 7:13:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Students really need to balance the cost of college, taking on loans, etc. with the payoff down the road.

It might make sense, dollars and sense, to take out loans if you are getting a degree in a field for which you have a high earning capacity upon graduation.

But it makes no sense to take out loans to get a degree in women’s studies. There is no demand for women studiers in the job market.

This girl got a degree in nursing, a field in which she was able to find a good paying job. But here I would question why she apparently went to an expensive private university for that degree.


36 posted on 08/06/2014 7:15:06 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: ladyjane
The smart kids live at home, go to a community college the first two years, do well and get a scholarship to the state college.

Other smart kids join the military and take advantage of the educational assistance offered. The really smart ones get on the officer track and commission upon graduation. They start out mostly debt free earning $36k.

37 posted on 08/06/2014 7:18:26 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Why should they be responsible for a loan they co-signed for if the borrower dies when they weren’t expecting it? “

Because that’s exactly what co-signing *IS*. They accepted responsibility for paying the loan and interest in the event the person they co-signed for did not pay it. Otherwise, what would be the point of the activity at all?


38 posted on 08/06/2014 7:18:31 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

At the risk of sounding too insensitive, nobody asked any questions about co-signing, and what would happen if this girl died. Even if they had asked and known that they were responsible if their daughter died, they may well have co-signed anyway, thinking that the odds of death were so small.


39 posted on 08/06/2014 7:18:52 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Innovative

The family certainly has my sympathy, but isn’t this what co-signing a loan is all about?

My daughter is taking out some hefty loans for Grad School. My first question to her was if I was required to co-sign.

If the answer was yes I was prepared to take out a life insurance policy on her for the total of the loan.


40 posted on 08/06/2014 7:20:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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