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‘No evidence for or against gravitational waves’: Big Bang 'ripples' too weak to be significant.
NATURE ^ | 06/02/2014 | RON COWEN

Posted on 06/02/2014 10:34:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The astronomers who this spring announced that they had evidence of primordial gravitational waves jumped the gun because they did not take into proper account a confounding effect of galactic dust, two new analyses suggest.

Although further observations may yet find the signal to emerge from the noise, independent experts now say they no longer believe that the original data constituted significant evidence.

Researchers said in March that they had found a faint twisting pattern in the polarization of the cosmic microwave background (CMB), the Big Bang’s afterglow, using a South Pole-based radio telescope called BICEP2. This pattern, they said, was evidence for primordial gravitational waves, ripples in the fabric of space-time generated in the early Universe (see 'Telescope captures view of gravitational waves'). The announcement caused a sensation because it seemed to confirm the theory of cosmic inflation, which holds that the cosmos mushroomed in size during the first fraction of a second after the Big Bang.

However two independent analyses now suggest that those twisting patterns in the CMB polarization could just as easily be accounted for by dust in the Milky Way Galaxy

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Science
KEYWORDS: bigbang; gravitywaves; origins; stringtheory
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1 posted on 06/02/2014 10:34:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“All we are is dust in the wind”


2 posted on 06/02/2014 10:38:42 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

3 posted on 06/02/2014 10:39:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

All we are is dust in the wind.


4 posted on 06/02/2014 10:39:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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5 posted on 06/02/2014 10:40:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: UCANSEE2

Seriously though, The main reason for postulating gravitational waves is that Einstein was staunchly against the idea of nonlocal interactions, i.e., “spooky actions at a distance” as he called them. He insisted that nothing can move faster than the speed of light, including gravity and EM waves.

But now we realize that Einstein was wrong about the spookiness of quantum physics.


6 posted on 06/02/2014 10:43:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Scientific Method once again proves itself.

There is no other area of knowledge that polices itself as rigorously as Science.

This is a null value determination. But a really good catch.


7 posted on 06/02/2014 10:45:48 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ahhh yes. The Big bang. When there was nothing and then it blew up.


8 posted on 06/02/2014 10:45:57 AM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: dfwgator

LOL, that’s great. I haven’t seen that one.


9 posted on 06/02/2014 10:50:12 AM PDT by DannyTN
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And I thought that this was settled science and that the evidence of primordial gravitational waves was incontrovertible and accepted by 97% of physicists.


10 posted on 06/02/2014 10:57:35 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ruesrose

Nothing comes from nothing.


11 posted on 06/02/2014 11:00:59 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Started out with Burgundy but soon hit the harder stuff....)
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To: House Atreides
Not that I'd heard. Maybe you're thinking of the microwave background radiation?
12 posted on 06/02/2014 11:01:09 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: freedumb2003
Science polices itself, but it does suffer from too much group think and not enough scientific testing which results in slowing down scientific progress and the embrace of invalid hypotheses. Too often new scientific ideas have to wait an entire generation before they will be adequately investigated and adopted.

We've seen with global warming the political influence on science. And the willingness of too many scientists to get on board and promote global warming without criticallly examining the data.

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13 posted on 06/02/2014 11:05:08 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ruesrose
And God said, "let there be light," and there was light.

At least one scientist proposes a modification to Einstein's theory of gravity, whereby the beginning was more of a big "push" than explosion. And he's not the only scientist who supposes the sum total energy (including the energy represented by matter) is exactly zero.

No matter how you decide to look at it, the universe is a vast and intriguing place.

14 posted on 06/02/2014 11:07:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: HandyDandy
Nothing comes from nothing.

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

15 posted on 06/02/2014 11:09:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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16 posted on 06/02/2014 11:11:37 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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According to the article, within six months there will be much better data for dust and CMB light that could settle the issue. It’s been over 13 billion years. A few more months won’t hurt.


17 posted on 06/02/2014 11:12:51 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ruesrose
The Big bang. When there was nothing and then it blew up.

My understanding, which could be wrong, is that a vacuum would have to exist. I don't know about the vacuum back then, but the vacuum we have today is much more than nothing.

18 posted on 06/02/2014 11:18:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Drat.


19 posted on 06/02/2014 11:20:24 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: HandyDandy

Something comes from nothing.


20 posted on 06/02/2014 11:23:26 AM PDT by mlo
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