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I will soon be ripped by the IRS and I need serious tax advice.
Self | 04/18/2014 | Self

Posted on 04/18/2014 6:39:07 PM PDT by elahtap

Hi Fellow Freepers,

I am conservative to the core, and have been a long time lurker (8 years +) here, but I was finally spurred to set up an account. I wanted to get some advice. The potential stakes are high and I wanted to post this here because, as a group, you are the smartest people I know. I know my FRiends here will tell me what I need to know

I am a 58 y/o professional with a good job, and my wife had been a stay-at-home mom since our children were born. In mid 2010 we purchased a small business for 80K. She had done some fill-in work there and it looked like a good opportunity, and with both our kids soon to be in college, it would give her a shot a a career.

Here is what happened in the intervening years...

1) The business has tanked and we are coming around to making the decision to sell it and salvage whatever possible of our investment. My wife is a good worker-bee but absolutely lousy at running a business. Plus, after being in "remission" and well-controlled by medication, her bipolar illness has reared its ugly head again. We have lost tens of thousands of dollars, with most of this paid for by 3 withdrawals from IRA accounts.

2) State and Federal income taxes for the business have not been filed other than the first part-year (2010). So we have not even filed for 2011, 2012, and now, 2013. This is primarily due to not being able to afford an accountant to clean up the big mess and file the returns. Sometimes a mess gets so big you just don't know where to start.

3) Our personal income taxes have also not been filed for these same years (2011, 2012, and now 2013). Without the complicating factors (i.e. penalties) we probably didn't owe much (if any) because my deductions were always set up where I got a $500-$1000 refund every year. The primary reason I initially postponed filing was because we didn't have the business returns, and I didn't want to lose the deductions that would come about as a result of the big business losses.

But now we are living in fear that the IRS will come in and seize everything (including a big chunk of my wages, or our home, or retirement funds, etc.) and the snowball (crapball?) will just get larger.

We have always paid our bills and lived financially responsible lives, which means that, emotionally and logistically, we are in uncharted territory without any idea how to find our way out.

We SO want to get this all straightened out, and I had considered visiting the local IRS office and trying to get a friendly agent for a 45 minute sitdown and just throwing myself at their mercy, but I don't want to make it worse by doing this (like my friend who, years ago, accidently crossed into Canada with a handgun in his car and went back to the border to inquire about what he should do).

Quite honestly (and it is very humbling to admit this) we are overwhelmed to the point where we are paralyzed by fear and uncertainty, and we are unable to decide how to fix this.

I am open to criticism, but please understand that beating myself . Believe me when I say we already know we are woefully stupid for ever letting the situation get to this point.

My wife and I really need some educated and helpful advice on how best to begin the process of straightening this out while minimizing any additional damage. I'm counting on my FRiends here for some good solid guidance.


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KEYWORDS: irs; irsproblems; taxadvice; taxes
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Please advise, and ping anyone else you might think would have good advice.

I need to leave the house for a while, so I will try to catch up on posts and answer any relevant questions in a few hours. Thanks, all!

1 posted on 04/18/2014 6:39:08 PM PDT by elahtap
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To: elahtap

get a tax accountant place to start working on it


2 posted on 04/18/2014 6:43:59 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: elahtap

Have you been notified that you are being audited or do you simply fear being audited?


3 posted on 04/18/2014 6:44:02 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: elahtap

I am not a tax professional, but I want you to realize you are a live person that can’t be defined by your monetary class.

Regardless of what happens, please live your life to the fullest and don’t let the IRS define your enjoyment of life.


4 posted on 04/18/2014 6:44:05 PM PDT by dila813
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To: elahtap

Beg or borrow the money needed to hire a good tax attorney. That is the best thing you can do. Without it you’re walking into the lions den without a a weapon. You’ll more than make up the cost by what you save.


5 posted on 04/18/2014 6:44:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: elahtap
Welcome to FR.

/johnny

6 posted on 04/18/2014 6:44:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: elahtap

Find a lawyer.

Find a CPA.

Do not go to the IRS until you are FULLY prepared.


7 posted on 04/18/2014 6:44:34 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: elahtap

Get a good accounting firm. They will have bookkeeping types that bill at lower rates to sort through all your personal and business paperwork.

If the IRS comes calling, refer them to your accountant. Do NOT throw yourselves at their mercy.

Visit an accountant, explain the situation honestly, and ask their advice. You would do well to visit a few to find one you are comfortable with.

Move now, don’t wait (penalties can worsen, and you can lose opportunities). Time is not on your side.

Good luck!


8 posted on 04/18/2014 6:46:17 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: elahtap

I agree with the previous poster...bite the bullet and pay a professional to guide you through it. The peace of mind alone will be worth the price.


9 posted on 04/18/2014 6:47:18 PM PDT by ebersole
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Get a CPA. Now.

I had a bad situation, and I got it all smoothed over, not by coming to the IRS, but coming to the CPA and *HE* did my talking.

It’s now in a payment schedule, and it’s down from 10k to under 2k.


10 posted on 04/18/2014 6:47:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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3 withdrawals from IRA accounts.

I'm not an Accountant or an Attorney but from what I have read I believe you are going to need one or the other. There are some good Tax Attorneys but I recommend an Accountant. I hope you have good records and have all pertinent information categorized. If your information is not categorized I recommend that be done first. Know was of no help but want to wish you Good Luck.

11 posted on 04/18/2014 6:48:05 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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What is the structure of the business? s corp, ptn, c corp, sole proprietorship?

Get something in and filed, to be honest, IRS is way overloaded now and you may slip through the cracks. Don’t work about perfection. The good people in IRS have left (people who think and know) and it is run by computers now.


12 posted on 04/18/2014 6:50:53 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: elahtap

o_O
Welcome to FR


13 posted on 04/18/2014 6:51:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: elahtap

For now... if you have any money get a tax attorney and an accountant.

Go over the books, see what profit/losses you have incurred.

File you amended taxes for the previous years.

It may not be as bad as you think, or it may be worse. you won’t know until you finish the paperwork.

Get right with it now before they start levying your bank accounts and seizing your real property.


14 posted on 04/18/2014 6:51:59 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: elahtap

Yes go to a CPA immediately. The IRS considers failure to file, if you owe money as much more serious than if you do not owe anything.


15 posted on 04/18/2014 6:52:36 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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RE :”Plus, after being in “remission” and well-controlled by medication, her bipolar illness has reared its ugly head again. We have lost tens of thousands of dollars, with most of this paid for by 3 withdrawals from IRA accounts.”

Yep, that will do it.

16 posted on 04/18/2014 6:52:40 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: elahtap

Get thee a tax attorney.


17 posted on 04/18/2014 6:54:30 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2banana
Find a lawyer.

Find a CPA.

Do not go to the IRS until you are FULLY prepared.

It's pretty sad that it's come to this in our country.

Something's gotta give.
Soon.....
18 posted on 04/18/2014 6:55:39 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I have a local inexpensive CPA who is retired and fights for his clients. He has seen me through tough situations. I wish I had hired someone years ago.


19 posted on 04/18/2014 6:55:58 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: elahtap

You need a very good tax attorney, preferably one who has a CPA as well as a JD.


20 posted on 04/18/2014 6:56:23 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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