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Newt Gingrich's Plan to Stave Off the Apocalypse
National Journal ^ | March 28, 2014 | Alex Brown

Posted on 03/28/2014 11:49:45 AM PDT by Svartalfiar

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To: DannyTN

Maybe one other thought ... Since the substations would remain above ground a breaker could be set to trip once the surge came in thereby saving the underground lines.


21 posted on 03/28/2014 12:13:41 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Zathras

It would be much easier and cheaper to detonate a van full of Cobalt 60 in NYC financial district.
Only big problem would be getting it into the city.


22 posted on 03/28/2014 12:14:58 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Resolute Conservative

Not a bad plan and I regrettably agree regarding out cic.


23 posted on 03/28/2014 12:15:03 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Zathras

You are correct about HEMP - high altitude electromagnetic pulse. It generates the three most damaging forms of nuclear-originated EMP.

But SCUD-like platforms can deliver a SREMP -source regional EMP which can disable a metro region like ny to boston. They are essentially direct effect weapons that dont produce the E1 pulse inherent in an exoatmospheric blast that excites the atmosphere and kills a national area line of sight.

Posting from mobile. Excuse thetyppos


24 posted on 03/28/2014 12:15:18 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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well I do wish our cic was out.


25 posted on 03/28/2014 12:15:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Zathras

Going from memory, but there have been some articles about creating a “poor man’s emp weapon” that isn’t a nuke. Will have to look for them later.

There was also a recent thread here about how taking down a small portion of the grid in an initial attack could have a massive cascading impact and take down most, or at least a lot, of the rest of it. Even medium sized disruption that spans into weeks or months will cause an absolute nightmare.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 12:18:38 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Star Traveler

Nine out of ten Americans being killed would be about 280 million deaths from a catastrophic event and would almost certainly trigger a nuclear retaliation causing hundreds of millions more deaths. That is a Tribulation/Apocalyptic scenario.


27 posted on 03/28/2014 12:18:59 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

How do you retaliate against the sun, which is 93 million miles away?


28 posted on 03/28/2014 12:21:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


29 posted on 03/28/2014 12:22:22 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Blueflag

Very true.
My point was that to try and generate a EMP means you need both the warhead and lifting body strong enough to stay out of the blast zone.
Any country other than USA, Russia, UK, France doesn’t have the range to reach us.

Now a shipping container in San Francisco bay would be much easier and cheaper.


30 posted on 03/28/2014 12:24:45 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Star Traveler; PapaNew
"This doesn’t have to be related to the Tribulation in the Bible."

Quite Correct! In the history of man he has repeatedly shown his ability to cause such havoc that people have cried out to the Lord to bring his own end to relieve their suffering.
31 posted on 03/28/2014 12:25:28 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PapaNew
"That is a Tribulation/Apocalyptic scenario."

And how are you so sure of that, when even the Son does not know?
32 posted on 03/28/2014 12:27:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PapaNew

There have been plenty of mass exterminations of people without it being the end of times. The black death killed half the population of Europe, and people thought it was the end, but it wasn’t.

God helps those who help themselves.


33 posted on 03/28/2014 12:29:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Star Traveler
Well, obviously I was addressing the nuclear scenario, but it's the same result.

The sun is used explicitly in the Bible and specifically in Revelation as one of the punishments and plagues during the Tribulation. Who knows how many hundreds of million deaths around the world would be added to the 280 million deaths in this country? If that's not a Tribulation/Apocalyptic scenario I don't know what is.

34 posted on 03/28/2014 12:30:43 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Zathras

Forget EMP. Its a lot easier to just take down the grid by demolishng enough substations. If you do not have an alternative power system you need to get working on it becausse we will at some point be in the dark for 18 mos to 4 years.


35 posted on 03/28/2014 12:40:29 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Burying the lines does not help. These are geomagnetic currents. A few feet of dirt is "skin deep" to currents that low in frequency.

Google "Russian EMP" and find out what happened to their power plant after a nuclear test.

36 posted on 03/28/2014 12:43:03 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Star Traveler

You’re right. But it’s the least worst of the PDFs I found online, which were safe to download.


37 posted on 03/28/2014 12:43:55 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Star Traveler

“Apocalypse” comes from a Greek expression meaning removing a covering.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 12:44:28 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: carriage_hill

Thanks for posting...and researching the *best* pdf.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 12:45:14 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Svartalfiar
Callista's crazy eyes could stop any EMP attack in its tracks.


40 posted on 03/28/2014 12:48:18 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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