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Study Questions Fat and Heart Disease Link
New York Times ^ | MARCH 17, 2014 | ANAHAD O'CONNOR

Posted on 03/18/2014 8:16:42 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Edited on 03/18/2014 8:46:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Pharmboy

I read a column about him and that ‘low fat’ research a few years ago. Specifically how he had to cherry pick the nations he used in his final tabulations.

When I was a kid, in the 1970’s, high blood pressure medication was something your grandparents took. People in their late 50’s+. Now there are hordes of THIRTY something’s on bp meds. Geeze. My hubby is the ONLY one of his forty something year old coworkers who is NOT on bp meds. We low carb for the most part. Just sayin’.


41 posted on 03/19/2014 6:07:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Indeed. Keys, I believe, did a 17 nation study and threw out the results from ten since they did not come out the way he wanted them to.

With HTN, there are a few of us who believe that it is the reversed K/Na ratio that we ingest now that is reversed BIG time from our paleo ancestors.


42 posted on 03/19/2014 6:20:45 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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I’m pushing the big 50 and every time I go for my ob/gyn appointment the nurse practically hyperventilates when she takes my bp. She usually repeats it 2 or 3 times. She just can’t believe that someone in my age group, not thin, can have a bp of 105/70. It’s usually 95 or 100/70ish when I’m at home or medical kin takes it. ‘White coat’ adds a good 5 or 10 to the top.

I usually tell the nurse that I low carb and that’s why my bp is so good. After a shocked look she then usually proceeds to tell me ‘but that’s not healthy for your heart!’. LOL. W/o realizing the contradictions in front of her face. Indoctrinated in nursing school they are...


43 posted on 03/19/2014 6:33:16 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Pharmboy

Another thing about the butter, cheese (hard cheeses) and meats, particularly organ meats is the vitamin K2 content of those. Big study (Rotterdam study maybe?) that linked consumption of those with lack of aortic stenosis. Cees Vermeer (wonder if he’s kin somehow ancestrally to the artist) is the lead researcher in that particular one IIRC.


44 posted on 03/19/2014 6:34:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Take a look at the BP change in the Atkins subjects. Here. Scroll down and look at the table with secondary measures.
45 posted on 03/19/2014 5:33:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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my mom’s bp went from 165/somethingorother unmedicated to 115/80 with meds to 115/80 w/o meds but doing low carb.

Low carb eliminated the need for meds altogether. And within just a week or 10 days. After 3 or 4 days, when she hit ketosis really good she started feeling faint. Had our cousin who’s a nurse take her b/p and b/s. b/p was 90 over something (she was still taking her meds) and her b/s was 90. First time her b/s had been under 100 in years. She called her internist who halved her b/p meds on the spot. Ended up ditching them altogether within 2 weeks.

She still takes metformin. Just because. So do I.

And her arthritis in her hands and feet doesn’t bug her like it used to. Even when it’s cold.


46 posted on 03/19/2014 6:47:28 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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