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Girl Scout Cookies Controversy – To Sell or Not To Sell? You Decide!
AMAC (a Decent AARP Alternative) ^ | 03/14/14 | D.J. Wilson

Posted on 03/15/2014 5:19:52 AM PDT by harpu

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1 posted on 03/15/2014 5:19:52 AM PDT by harpu
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To: harpu

another good person’s good deed hijacked by the progressives.


2 posted on 03/15/2014 5:53:53 AM PDT by scooby321
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On a mundane level, the Girl Scouts aren’t immune to the problems facing McDonald’s, Kroger or any other seller of foodstuffs. They are slashing portions (another box of air) and charging more and their customers have noticed.

And then there are the politics. The Scouts are the Junior PC Army now. They have appointed a lesbian as ‘Chief Girl Experience Officer,’ which sounds like the premise for a porn film. Their method of dealing with press inquiries is an especially smug variety of boilerplate in which they quote meaningless statistics and big themselves up some more.

As with schools, sports and other youth-oriented endeavors, the leftists simply cannot resist the devil’s candy of young impressionable minds to poison. They’ve gone from in loco parentis to parents having to monitor closely what nonsense the Scouts have foisted on their daughters.


3 posted on 03/15/2014 6:00:39 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts have turned into one big money making machine. I would not let my kids join either as they are presently organized. Parents should just get with friends and take their kids on excursions and camping trips!!!


4 posted on 03/15/2014 6:07:10 AM PDT by ontap
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To: harpu

This will probably set me at odds with many people but here goes.

I personally NOW believe, (I didn’t use to), that Marijuana as well as other currently illegal drugs should be made legal as well as taxed. Why?

Because the War on Drugs as well as the War on Terror have destroyed the foundations of this country and have brought us to the very edge of a total Surveillance and Police State. The Federal Government is nearly supreme in everything and can tell us, (The Citizens), what we can and can’t do from how much water our toilets can use to whether or not we can grow ‘organic’ vegetables to feed ourselves. Our movements are monitored, our computer usage can be monitored at whim.

I can go on and on, why bother if you’ve been here long enough you know all of that stuff. The solution IMHO is to legalize the damn drugs first and tax the h*ll out of them. It’s totally amazing at how hard the government will fight for it’s tax revenue isn’t it? That in itself will put a huge damper on illegal drugs entering the country. They’ll do it legally now and eventually make even bigger profits by getting rid of the more expensive portions of their current networks and security forces.


5 posted on 03/15/2014 6:07:57 AM PDT by The Working Man
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I don't buy Girl Scout cookies due to the "intimidation factor" of them setting those tables up outside post offices, supermarkets and what not.

This scene plays out all across the country: You come out of a supermarket after having paid $238.05 in groceries and suddenly you are confronted with little girls with those pleading eyes squealing for you to purchase some of their overpriced factory-made cookies. They are invariably ringed by scowling, hovering, "Girl Scout" moms, standing out there in the cold, clutching their Starbucks coffee cups, as they stare you down - as if daring you to not to shell over $20 for your four boxes.

It's as bad as the Salvation Army people at Christmastime ("Put a nickel in the drum, save another drunken bum")

I just walk past the lot of them, not even making eye contact.

6 posted on 03/15/2014 6:09:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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I agree and that's what we did....every year...like clock work.

My parents did the same. School was out and we hopped in the car and were off to the wilds of Canada. The last 50 miles were dirt road. Probably similar to riding in a stage coach.

7 posted on 03/15/2014 6:09:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The Phoenix dispensary, happy to have free press, agreed to solicit customers and offered patients who buy at least a half ounce of pot a free box of Girl Scout cookies. I must say, I find Scouts and Marijuana an odd partnership.

No more odd than their partnership with Planned Parenthood. I wonder if they offer a free box of cookies with every abortion.

8 posted on 03/15/2014 6:17:15 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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I have no problem with the members capitalizing upon the side-effect of the legal state-approved product.

I have a problem with the policies of Girl Scout national organization.

I hate Do-Gooders, the author should go annoy her local PTO in Jersey.


9 posted on 03/15/2014 6:19:41 AM PDT by eluttre
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Agree! My daughter joined, much to my chagrin, because even 15-20 years ago, they were too PC for me. I called GS headquarters to find the salary of the people in charge over there. They refused to tell me even though they break child labor laws by enticing my daughter and every Daisy, Brownie, and Girl Scout with proceeds from cookie sales. The cut individual troops receive for spending hours selling cookies is shockingly low, most of the money goes to pay the corporate salaries. I harangued them for a while but they refused to tell me. Shouldn’t that be public information?


10 posted on 03/15/2014 6:29:16 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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It is public information. There is a form they have to file that discloses the top salaries. I want to say it’s the form 900. Never request the salaries, request the form.


11 posted on 03/15/2014 6:46:43 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: harpu

Having been closely involved with the Girl Scouts for over a decade I can say with authority that in the 15 years since my wife stopped being a troop leader that they have become an organization with which we would now have no association.

I won’t even try listing the things that have changed for the worse. Makes me ill to see what has been done.

We have lost the culture war, IMO. I don’t see us coming back.


12 posted on 03/15/2014 6:48:11 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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I can walk right past the GS cookie booths outside the store. Maybe it’s because I’m overweight and they somehow understand./s

It’s getting hit up for donations to charities right there at the supermarket checkout that irks me no end. Especially when the counter is plastered with tokens signed by those who have already donated because they care.

I mutter, “I give through my church” & push on.


13 posted on 03/15/2014 7:02:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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“Think it’s odd that the organization isn’t taking a universal stance other than providing general safety guidelines?”

No, I think it is good that the organization structure leaves certain policy decisions up to the Councils and even up to troop leaders. Sometimes there could be better decisions in hiring staff at these levels that make these local decisions and set these guidelines for the troops - staff that would laugh pot-loving parent complainers off the public stage

If you don’t agree with the Council, you can find a troop in another Council. If we let National set all our policies, it would cause big trouble.


14 posted on 03/15/2014 7:04:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Just because something is “legal”, like pot, liquor, strip clubs, abortion clinics and Nevada houses of prostitution, doesn’t make it appropriate for 6-14 yr old girls to promote or endorse by their presence selling GS cookies


15 posted on 03/15/2014 7:07:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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GS does not have a partnership with any other nonprofit, including PP, though sometimes our leadership is at conferences such as those sponsored by the United Nations, where other nonprofits such as PP are also in attendance.

Like it or not, PP is tied into most conferences and confabs dealing with women and girl issues

the allusion to a “partnership” was an unfortunate misnomer 10 years ago by a long-gone national CEO, Cloninger, and the PP claim stories do an endless loop back to her comment


16 posted on 03/15/2014 7:13:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Not true. They (at least some councils) have a partnership with United Way - maybe others.


17 posted on 03/15/2014 7:30:36 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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You are correct in what you say. It IS inappropriate to sell cookies at those locations.


18 posted on 03/15/2014 7:37:41 AM PDT by The Working Man
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public information
http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_cookies/faq.asp

About $1 per box goes to the baker, the rest of the profit goes to local councils and troops. Any money that goes to GSUSA National comes from the cookie baker share, which pays for royalties and trademark images and program publicity and oversight

My troop keeps $.70 of every $4 box sold, a figure that slides based on productivity. Baseline is $.50 per box. Lower than Boy Scout popcorn but then, our product is $4, not $15 and up

FACT: GS troops are self funding. Leaders are volunteers and get NO money to start a troop or buy supplies, pay for meeting space etc.
FACT: No girl has to sell cookies.
However if she does not, the parents have to pay to run the troop and pay for activities. Some cannot.
Girls are not permitted to fundraise if they do not first sell cookies. Troops that sell cookies are limited to 2 extra fundraisers per year, so they cannot be turned into money raising machines.

FACT: The Council uses its portion of cookie profits to maintain Council offices and staff that trains and oversees ALL our adult volunteers (troop leaders), run girl programs especially those for underprivileged troops, and maintains our CAMPS. Anyone who can think of a better model that includes girls as young as 6 in sustaining their own troops-can start a new organization.

FACT: MOST of the little girls love selling cookies (having been a leader for 7 years). It gives them people skills and a chance to say they earned their own money and set their own goals for spending it. It is a lot of fun watching 8 year olds debate whether to spend their typical $40 shared profits per girl on camping or Build a Bear, and whether to donate some to a charity. It is their decision

FACT: We set up booths at grocery stores because going door-to-door is no longer safe in many neighborhoods, nor do all the girls have parents willing to spend this time with them.

FACT: MANY people love GS cookies and their reaction to the product and enthusiasm makes it even more worthwhile for a 2 hour booth sale. I’m going to miss those moments when someone buys 6 boxes of cookies and the girls are thrilled.


19 posted on 03/15/2014 7:40:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Lots of organizations are under United Way’s umbrella, and compete for grants and funds from United Way. Especially those that serve diverse and low income members and can use grant money to provide assistance. A VERY significant number of our GS have their $22 dues paid by Council grant money.

United Way fundraises heavily from the US military during share campaign. I guess that makes the US military PP partners, too


20 posted on 03/15/2014 7:45:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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