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Why the price of oil may be about to tank
Maclean's ^ | March 5, 2014 | March 5, 2014

Posted on 03/06/2014 4:21:03 PM PST by rickmichaels

It’s easy to get lost in the incremental gyrations of oil prices. “Oil rises on colder weather,” screams a headline one day, only to be followed the next by “Crude edges down on inventory report.” When not being driven by “fears over the Middle East,” crude is being hammered by “weak Chinese data.” You’d almost think energy analysts have a roulette wheel of explanations they spin each time prices move a notch: “Well, what will it be today? Oh ho! Emerging market turmoil it is.”

Which is why it’s so refreshing—and to be frank, scary—to talk with Bob Hoye, the Vancouver-based financial analyst, professional crisis spotter and student of the long view. Ask Hoye about where oil prices are headed and you’ll be taken on a journey through the coal panic of the 1860s, the collapse of the late-19th-century bubble in whale oil and the energy crisis of the 1970s. Hoye has a knack for looking past the hype in any market and determining when mania has reached a fever pitch. In 2005 he began warning of a recession on the horizon. By mid-2007, when most forecasters expected a mild correction in U.S. house prices, he predicted, “This is likely the biggest train wreck in financial history.”

So what does Hoye see coming down the pipe for oil, that sludgy lifeblood of the Canadian economy? “Somewhere in the next couple of months the price advance in crude will probably have maxed out for this business cycle,” he says. “It’s easy to say that crude oil could fall to 25 per cent of its recent high. It will change things enormously.”

There are several elements to Hoye’s forecast for a 75 per cent drop in prices, but let’s focus on just a couple. Perhaps most important is the energy revolution under way around the world. You’ll have heard of peak oil, the theory dating back to the 1950s and embraced with great enthusiasm last decade, that petroleum extraction will hit a wall as recoverable supplies run out. You’ll also notice you don’t hear much about it anymore. That’s because new discoveries and technologies for extracting petroleum, like hydraulic fracturing, have sparked a boom in production. The U.S. is on track to produce more oil this year than at any time since the 1980s.

A similar story has played out in natural gas. Barely a decade after America feared it was running out of recoverable natural gas, the U.S. is now producing more than it has at any time in its history. The result has been a collapse in prices, from around US$15 per million British thermal units in 2008 to below US$3 by 2012. (The price has recovered to about US$5.) Yet despite the sharp rise in oil production, light crude prices have mounted a bumpy climb from their post-recession low of US$34 a barrel to around US$102 today. If Hoye is correct, that price could soon tumble to around US$25 a barrel, invariably bringing the price of Alberta crude with it.

The second part of Hoye’s forecast rests on the craziness playing itself out in the futures market, where, as the name suggests, traders place bets on the future price of various commodities. While America’s energy revolution has been under way the past few years, he notes, large speculators have continued to believe oil prices have nowhere to go but up. Hedge funds and institutional investors have taken the largest net long position on crude in history, meaning they’re more bullish that prices will go up than ever before. Yet at the same time, commercial traders, who represent companies involved in the production and consumption of crude—and who use futures to protect their profits against falling prices—have their largest net short position in history, meaning they expect prices to drop. “These markets get distorted when you approach a top,” he says. “We’re at a point where it’s close to changing.”

It hardly needs pointing out that a price drop of the magnitude Hoye envisions would be crippling for Canada. While oil sands producers have pared their operating costs in recent years, they would be hard pressed to turn a profit with oil below US$30 a barrel. Nor is it clear the controversial Keystone pipeline would get built, even if Washington were to end its dithering and approve the pipeline’s construction.

Sometimes it’s necessary to step back from the day-to-day noise in markets to assess what’s really going on. But be warned, you might not like what you see.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: devaluation; europeanunion; inflation; oil; oilprice; opec
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1 posted on 03/06/2014 4:21:03 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

Just paid 3.53 a gallon. a few weeks, maybe a month or so ago it was 2.99...

It can tank any day now.


2 posted on 03/06/2014 4:28:11 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: rickmichaels

Well, Obama might release some crude to drive the prices down and erode Russia’s profits a bit. Shame he didn’t allow the pipeline to go through. See that Obama? STupid decisions lead to stupid unintended consequences.

It’s mostly a Government game dude, they’re doing it with everything.

- Cattle lowest since 1950 because of inclement weather?
- Corn going up, inclement weather?
- Fresh Fruits and Vegatables going up, inclement weather?
- Pork, Chicken .... blah blah, inclement weather?
- Wheat and Soy

Think about it. Everything Obama has done has resulted in making it more expensive to live. They don’t want income redistribution, they just want everybody poor.

Get the picture? Somebody is reinforcing global warming on us.


3 posted on 03/06/2014 4:31:08 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: cableguymn

3.59 yesterday ... 3.60 today


4 posted on 03/06/2014 4:31:19 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: cableguymn
I paid $o.85 December 1999. Gas was $1.85 when Bush left office. This is a brave new world with the Obumacrats.
5 posted on 03/06/2014 4:33:56 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: thackney

Ping.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 4:39:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: rickmichaels

What? Oh, sorry, my mind got stuck on that phrase “Incremental Gyrations” . Might be a good title for a novel.


7 posted on 03/06/2014 4:40:09 PM PST by lee martell
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To: mountainlion

and who can’t recall the good old days when Bush was President and it was either summer of 2001/02 when gas tanked to under 1.00 a gallon.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 4:41:07 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: knarf

Gas - 3.039, but Diesel is ~4.099


9 posted on 03/06/2014 4:41:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: knarf
3.59 yesterday ... 3.60 today

Sounds nice, I just paid 3.77.9 and that was at Costco.

10 posted on 03/06/2014 4:41:13 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: rickmichaels
I guess Prince Hakeem will only be able to buy three Hennessey Venom GTs and two Rolls Royal Celestials next month instead of five.


11 posted on 03/06/2014 4:41:55 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: cableguymn

Yeah, I’d like to at least see SOME downward movement. Imagine where we’d be without fracking.


12 posted on 03/06/2014 4:45:02 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Mastador1

The cheapest I’ve seen here in SW Pennsylvania is 3.55 a gallon.


13 posted on 03/06/2014 4:45:26 PM PST by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: cableguymn

same here.


14 posted on 03/06/2014 4:48:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rickmichaels

if gas ever tanks to 2.00 a gallon,then the economy will improve and millions more people will find work,then millions more people will vote GOP !!! what will Obama do?


15 posted on 03/06/2014 4:48:27 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: rickmichaels; Squawk 8888; SunkenCiv

Ping


16 posted on 03/06/2014 4:51:48 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: cableguymn

Gas will not go down significantly regardless of the price of crude.

Gasoline is also driven by insane federal regulations, dozens and dozens of different required formulations for different cities. All for the purpose of driving up gas prices.

How is a single refinery supposed to make 59 varieties of gas (contaminated with subsidized ethanol) and deliver as such.

Face it, the feds will regulate out of the cost of gas any improvements that accrue from lower crude prices.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 4:52:53 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: cableguymn

I went out on the National Guard Training Base, Fort McClellan, Alabama today. It was $2.98 there. Went up 3 cents from last week. Most places around here are $3.07 to $3.19.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 4:52:58 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: rickmichaels

I’ll believe it when I pay for it at the pump.


19 posted on 03/06/2014 4:53:10 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: cableguymn
Two weeks ago we were at $3.13/gal. Today it's $3.69.

OUCH. And we were just told that a local refinery that supplies most of the gas in this area was "shut down for maintenance" early. Normally they wait till May. Guess they wanted the price higher.

20 posted on 03/06/2014 4:53:17 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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