Posted on 02/26/2014 9:08:05 AM PST by onedoug
Astronomers propose an experiment that may close the last major loophole of Bell's inequality -- a 50-year-old theorem that, if violated by experiments, would mean that our universe is based not on the textbook laws of classical physics, but on the less-tangible probabilities of quantum mechanics. Such a quantum view would allow for seemingly counterintuitive phenomena such as entanglement, in which the measurement of one particle instantly affects another, even if those entangled particles are at opposite ends of the universe. Among other things, entanglement -- a quantum feature Albert Einstein skeptically referred to as "spooky action at a distance" -- seems to suggest that entangled particles can affect each other instantly, faster than the speed of light.
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Very interesting research, though wouldn't contradict my understanding of The Bible in any way.
It looks like another article on some aspects of Quantum Entanglement. Bell’s theorem is right there in the middle of it all.
The common impression of the distances involved with quasars is based on the disproven idea of equating cosmic redshift with distance and velocity of expansion. Anything based on that sort of concept is FUBAR.
So how do they look at the “entangled” particles in order to determine that they are “entangled” when they are at opposite ends of the universe.
If you can know the position of a particle, you can’t know with certainty its velocity, and vice versa.
At the quantum level, measuring a particle’s velocity changes it, and measuring a particle’s position changes it.
Things like entanglement have been proven by experiments.
Quantum theory supports spiritual viewpoints. And it does not deny or oppose the idea that the Universe is governed by certain laws.
That's what the computer models say and as we all know computer models are never wrong
If an action on one particle affects another particle instantaneously, no matter the distance, then speed is not a factor. There is no movement and no velocity in that.
Take something we can understand: Earth
If Earth were sentient (and who knows maybe it is) and it could “SEE” us, we would seem to move incredibly fast and be able to act upon “particles” that are very distant in a very fast time.
Because our TIME is soo much faster than Earth’s TIME.
Extrapolate that out to these particles. It is possible they act at such a speed we cannot comprehend and so it appears they are acting instantaneously. But our TIME moves so much slower than these particles’ TIME.
If they were sentient (these particles) it would seem to them that we are moving at less than a snail’s pace.
Time is Relative. In time, all things will be revealed and in GOD all things are possible.
scientists are so smart and they have phdS etc.
they know more than me. i must listen to them even when they say global warming is real even though I know it is a hoax
all scientists know is how to get more government grants
these morons have no clue what is going on
scientists are so smart and they have phdS etc.
they know more than me. i must listen to them even when they say global warming is real even though I know it is a hoax
all scientists know is how to get more government grants
these morons have no clue what is going on
just one thing they say is that the universe exists only when you observe it . so the present determines the past because the past didn’t exist until you observed it in the present. so then the future determines the present. according to what they are saying.
“At the quantum level, measuring a particle’s velocity changes it, and measuring a particle’s position changes it.”
Please forgive my ignorance when I ask this. I know next to nothing about quantum mechanics.
When they say that “measuring a particle’s position” changes it, is it due to the fact that some new particles are required to measure said particle?
Let me try and explain it this way. Suppose I am measuring an electric circuit. It behaves a certain way under “unobserved” conditions.
Now, let’s say that I want to “observe” a node of the circuit with an oscilloscope probe. When I measure this node, I am actually changing the conditions of the circuit as the scope probe typically has capacitance, inductance, etc. itself.
Now, let’s say I am measuring something “simple” ... like a 60Hz, 5V peak-to-peak sine wave. These new parasitics I am introducing to the system via the scope probe aren’t a big problem. They have virtually no impact on the circuit.
However, suppose I was trying to measure a high speed transceiver running at mutli-gigabit data rates. The same scope probe could cause substantial problems in that the added parasitics will cause the circuit to behave differently.
(Yes, some idiots I used to work with once “solved” a problem by adding a 10pF capacitor to a broken circuit since they saw that adding a scope probe actually made a circuit work ... sadly, that circuit failed torture testing, but that’s a whole other story).
Now, when they say that observing something on the quantum scale has an effect on the particle, is it due to conditions similar to my analogy (i.e. things like lasers/light or what have you impact the particle’s behavior), or am I way the hell off and have far too much to learn :-)?
/mark
John Bell had 39 electoral votes in 1860. Must be a different John Bell.
Well said, TigersEye!
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