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Target Shooter Accidentally Shoots Person In The Chest At Perris Event
CBSLA.com) ^ | December 28, 2013 3:43 PM

Posted on 12/28/2013 7:29:51 PM PST by BenLurkin

PERRIS (CBSLA.com) — A target shooter accidentally shot and wounded someone in the chest Saturday during an event in Perris, authorities reported.

The shooting occurred shortly after 1 p.m. at Christmas Tree Lane and Santa Rosa Mine Road, according to Deputy Mike Vasquez of the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department.

The person injured was driven to a location near Washington Street to meet up with deputies and was then transported to a hospital. The person’s condition was not immediately known.

A witness told deputies that the shooter and victim were among an estimated 200 people who were participating at a shooting range event, Vasquez said. The event was held on property owned by the Bureau of Land Management.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; besureoftarget; california; gunsafety
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To: smokingfrog

If it was indeed a ricochet, what negligence are you alleging on the part of the shooter?


21 posted on 12/28/2013 8:38:31 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

If ricochets are even a possibility, then the negligence was on the part of the group or government that decided to hold a shooting event there.


22 posted on 12/28/2013 8:44:47 PM PST by jfd1776
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To: jfd1776

Does every bad thing have to have a guilty party? I’m guessing that lots of people have shot lots of rounds at that place without any obvious sign that this ricochet might someday happen. Maybe sometimes bad things just happen without us always needing to point the finger of blame.


23 posted on 12/28/2013 8:48:57 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: jfd1776

Ricochets are always a possibility. We must minimize their potential, but there are too many variables in natural settings to guarantee no ricochets. An indoor range is the only place we can control all the variables.


24 posted on 12/28/2013 8:54:32 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: jfd1776

Ricochets are always a possibility. Does that mean that the shooting of firearms is always a negligent act?


25 posted on 12/28/2013 8:57:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Ricochets are always a possibility.

Thunder stealer! lol

26 posted on 12/28/2013 8:57:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Ramius

RULES & REGULATIONS
CFR= Code of Federal Regulations
PC= CA Penal Code
F&G= CA Fish and Game Code

No shooting without an adequate backstop and clear visibility {43 CFR 8365.1-4(a)(2), PC 372}
Select the base of a substantial hill or crosswise canyon bottom, and give serious consideration to downrange safety, including ricochets and potential illegal alien trails hidden in the brush.

No gross negligent shooting (PC 246.3)
Any person who willfully discharges a firearm in a grossly negligent manner which could result in injury or death to a person is guilty of a public offense.

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/palmsprings/Target_Shooting_and_Hunting_Information.html


27 posted on 12/28/2013 9:04:23 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: TigersEye

GMTA


28 posted on 12/28/2013 9:09:14 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: TigersEye

More So Cal Social Disintegration.


29 posted on 12/28/2013 9:17:59 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
GMTA

That's exactly right! You nailed it. ;-)

30 posted on 12/28/2013 9:24:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

The museum at Petersburg VA has two examples of rounds hitting each other in flight ....

A remarkable event in its own right, but then image the probability of FINDING those two twin bullet impacts and getting them into the collection.

I’ve seen one other impact like that, but don’t recall which Civil War museum it was at.

You’ve got to admire the courage of the troops who stood and continued fighting in the midst of gunfire like that.


31 posted on 12/28/2013 9:31:18 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: smokingfrog

So the shooter, competing at an established range that’s been in operation for many years, is guilty of a crime because of a ricochet from his round hitting the backstop, perhaps a rock or whatnot... And bouncing out of the range?

Really?


32 posted on 12/28/2013 9:38:05 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

“You’ve got to admire the courage of the troops who stood and continued fighting in the midst of gunfire like that.”

I can only imagine. One must be prepared to die at all times, but also continue to fight to prevent the death of one’s self and his fellows.


33 posted on 12/28/2013 9:52:11 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Ramius

I suppose it could have been a one-in-a-million case of bad luck. I guess we’ll have to wait for the youtube video.


34 posted on 12/28/2013 9:55:33 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
A hand full of us base police we're drug out on our day off to the base pistol range to fire thousands of rounds of ball 38. We were using S&W combat Masterpiece's fireing at 25 yards at an angled steel backstop. Not even a target. Just keep shooting. Told us the ammo had poss able defects. If it didn't fire wait 10 seconds and unload. If it didn't fire and you rotated the clynder,and realized it in time, throw the revolver down range and yell. We we're standing,just shooting off hand. I was reloading and happen to glance at the shooter on my left. He fired his last round and turned his head toward me. In that instant a thin red line, like a knife cut, appeared across the middle of his forehead. A ricochet. His bullet. He said the expression on my face scared him more than the thought of how close that round had been to his temple. Range Master said just keep shooting. Two days, all day, half a dozen guys and not one bad round. Not a trip to range I don't think about that incident. Ricochets happen.
35 posted on 12/28/2013 10:16:11 PM PST by crabpott (' we are living in the strangest, most perilous, and unbelievable decade in modern memory' VDH)
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To: crabpott

One of my good buddies in LA is into SASS cowboy shooting. At a competition he was firing his Colt SAA with .45 Schofield loads when he grabbed his throat and blood oozed. It was somewhat dramatic but he was not seriously injured by the piece of lead that had come back to tag him. This at a stage where hundreds of shooters had fired, at an event where safety is emphasized and practiced by very conscientious participants.


36 posted on 12/29/2013 5:55:30 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

I shoot at SASS events and get hit in the face almost every time from fragments coming back from the plate. One time I was hit just below the eye....reinforces the need for eyes and ears.


37 posted on 12/29/2013 6:01:46 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: BenLurkin

does a bounce back off a steel target qualify as a ricochet?

I recall a youtube video of someone shooting a 50 calibar round far down range and it bounced all the way back to where he was sitting.


38 posted on 12/30/2013 7:28:23 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc


39 posted on 12/30/2013 7:31:24 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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