Posted on 12/13/2013 5:14:00 AM PST by WhiskeyX
See:
Exclusive testimonies of the survivors of the deadly Molokai plane
KITV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIkhcC4dsx8
Also see some of the other Hawaiian television channel reports of her death. They talk about her activities in the various news reports about her death.
There is a Federal report prepared by order of Congress and released in 2000 that discusses the unreliability of birth certificates as identification documents due to widespread forgeries and fraud by applicants and issuing government agencies.
In the case of Hawaii, fraudulent birth certificates have been deliberately condoned and facilitated by the territorial and state governments of Hawaii for more than a century now. It is evidenced by a number of sources ranging from the fraudulent birth certificate issued to Dr. Sun-Yat-Sen, President of the Republic of China while he was a political refugee in hawaii to the recent investigations by Mike Zullo and the Cold Case Possee of the Maricopa Sheriff’s Department.
I once met an illegal alien in the State of Missouri, who came from an Eastern Eorpean nation, and he showed me how he obtained a fraudulent Missouri birth certificate. He said it was very simple. He went to the local library and found which hospitals had been in operation about the time of his fictional birth date and have since closed. He then filled out a county form for a delayed report of birth to obtain a Missouri birth certificate, claiming it was no longer possible to obtain the birth record from the now closed hospital and discarded hospital records.
I asked how he got around his poor skills at speaking English and the lack of his birth registration in the year of his ficitional birth? He responded saying the registrars have been ordered by the district attorney and other state and county officials to turn a blind eye to the discrepencies and issue the delayed brith certificate despite these glaring problems. Then he proved what he was saying by showing me his fraudulent Missouri birth certificate and his presumably worn and tattered original European birth certificate.
He is not the only illegal alien to show and tll me how they got their own fraudulent U.S. citizenship documents.
These problems were also commented upon in the federal 2000 report.
Government corruption with respect to citizenship and identity documents is reampant in the United States, and the Federal 2000 report said the prosecutors almost never prosecute such obvious violations of the law, except in criminal cases involving a capital offense and sometimes no even then.
I can’t help but laugh seeing that it is the fumbling Orly Taitz who is causing Obama so many problems.
Sounds like a PR/press-the-flesh trip. There is no explanation of why the Deputy was along.
Yes, the federal government considers a U.S. Passport to be the primary evidence of citizenship and identity and a birth certificate to be only secondary evidence of same.
The law: 42CFR 435.407 “Types of Acceptable Documentary Evidence of Citizenship”. http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/42/435.407
There still needs to be a judicial or congressional investigation that applies specifically to the circumstances of Barack Obama’s vital records (or lack thereof), and that hasn’t happened. It would be really helpful if just one living person who was not born in Hawaii but who has a state of Hawaii birth certificate could be exposed.
The possible corroborating stories of an August 4, 1961 birth at Kapi’olani Hospital would need to be impeached under oath. (The entry in the 1960-1964 Hawaii Index of Births, the August 13 & 14, 1961 Health Bureau Statistics data in the two local newspapers, statements of two other mothers who gave birth that weekend, Eleanor Nordyke and Monica Waidelich Danielsson), Barack Obama Senior’s claim of paternity to the INS on August 31, 1961, the 1964 Dunham-Obama divorce decree and step-father Lolo Soetoro’s listing of Honolulu as the birthplace of his step-son on the Catholic school application in Jakarta, Indonesia).
Fuddy was 65. Thinking about retiring? Having her deputy shadow her on official duties in anticipation of him soon taking over?
I was under the impression Miki Booth was involved with an attempt to obtain a LFBC for Virginia Sunahara, for whom the HDOH refused to issue a LFBC copy to her brother. I can’t see how that might be interpreted as a ‘dry run for obama’
can you?
Fuddy’s mother lived there until her death in 1997, and other relatives till live there today, according to that news report. The 1:06 and 1:24 time marks are where they commented on her coming to take care of their problems and settle a community dispute.
Just gathering information.
Would that qualify as routine official business?
And the Deputy?
Mike Zullo has made comments about the existence of such evidence, but the Hawaiian courts, state and Federal, stonewall such proceedings with the lack of standing judicial doctrine even in the cases not involving Obama.
See the comments at and link sto the Federal 1988 and 2000 reports:
http://thelastbastille.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/birth-certificate-fraud/
Note, U.S. Passports are also fraudulent due to their reliance upon breeder documents such as the fake or fraudulent birth certificates and other forged identity documents.
Let me count the ways. I'll just deal with the two above. I've never read anything attributed to a Monica Waidelich Danielsson that connects her to an alleged birth of zero to Stanley Ann Dunham at the Kapiolani hospital, so maybe you could provide a source for that to enlighten me...and as for Elanour Nordyke, in her own words, (paraphrased) SHE SAID I didn't see her there, but I must have been in the hospital having the twins at the same time Stanley Ann Dunham was there...
We are all FRiends here, aren't we? So surely you can quote a source and provide a link.
Our entire government is made up of fraudulent people.
yes and no, depending on whether or not any of them are clients/patients for which her department is responsible. The settlement is a leper colony.
Like many of the good guys and gals in the military services, the good guys and gals are surrounded by a lot of not so good people they have to work with for better or worse.
We should determine the facts without speculating.
Does the Director make regular visits? Are they once a week? Once a month? Quarterly? Annually? Ad-hoc?
What about the Deputy Director? What is his schedule? Do they typically travel together?
What were the dates of previous visits?
Are they any new employees or contractors associated with the airport or the plane?
What about the other passengers? Who are they? Who do they work for? etc.
Routine questions.
Directors are typically paper pushers, not “out in the field” unless there’s some facility being opened or the like.
So is there a little tongue in cheek to go along with your quite logical and reasonable explanation as to what happened?
We should pray for her so that God’s strength is made perfect in her “bumbling” weaknesses!
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