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FSU’s Winston won’t be charged
Journal Gazette ^ | 12/6/13 | Gary Fineout

Posted on 12/07/2013 5:44:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

... Heisman hopeful Jameis Winston will not face any charges in a sexual assault case, mostly because there were too many gaps in his accuser’s story...

... the woman’s blood-alcohol content at the hospital was 0.04 percent and investigators estimated it to be about 0.10 percent at the time of the incident, based on the amount of time that had passed....

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I do not like it when guys are accused of "rape" when there is no reason. I recognize there are women out there who behave badly and then cry "victim".

Nevertheless, I am disturbed by the apparent ACCEPTANCE of Winston's actions. His coach is still allowing him to play, despite the fact that the young man had sex with an apparently drunk girl. The player's teammates even told investigators that the coitus happened in full view of them, since Winston's bedroom door was broken.

Does this bother anyone else?

1 posted on 12/07/2013 5:44:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Does this bother anyone else? “

There are several answers to this. The university makes $1.5 billion dollars off of football. The players are universally treated as gods. (I live in town.) There are simply no rules for young black men. If they told them not to have sex with drunk women they’d be laughed at.

A boss once told me, “Never make a rule you know will be broken as it damages your authority more than just ignoring whatever it is.”


2 posted on 12/07/2013 5:49:31 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: SoFloFreeper

When the DA is a FSU grad and loyal supporter, and you are the FSU Heismann-front runner QB, you can rape anyone you want to.


3 posted on 12/07/2013 5:50:45 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: SoFloFreeper

It does bother me. Our culture has become pretty much Sodom.


4 posted on 12/07/2013 5:50:57 AM PST by ecomcon
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“The player's teammates even told investigators that the coitus happened in full view of them, since Winston's bedroom door was broken. Does this bother anyone else? “.

It's all about winning and has nothing to do with eye wittness testimony. (Sarc)

5 posted on 12/07/2013 5:53:08 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SoFloFreeper

Gt off your damned high horse. The girl was NOT drunk - and guess what, college girls like to have sex with college football players. I know this may come as a shock to you.

What do you want? Gay football players only?


6 posted on 12/07/2013 5:53:21 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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The university makes $1.5 billion dollars off of football.

What? Do you work for the administration? The global warming folks? 1.5 billion? Really? Check your math there dude.

7 posted on 12/07/2013 5:54:14 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Progov

Are you totally clueless as to what goes on in all college dorms now? Open door multiple partner sex, often initiated by the girls, is very very normal. Why do you think healthcare.gov ran commercials showing the GIRL as the instigator in the bro’s and ho’s commercial?

That’s how it happens now…..


8 posted on 12/07/2013 5:55:51 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It was covered up. Why? I am certainly not just accepting the story we’re told.


9 posted on 12/07/2013 5:57:44 AM PST by boycott
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I don’t think there was a rape.

0.10 is barely under the influence, much less drunk.
Certainly not drunk enough not to remember where she was or what happened.

She was picked up at a bar where she was with friends,.
Her friends allowed her to leave, drunk, with a stranger she did not know? What kind of friends were they? She went to this man’s apartment, and then decided to say no./
They found DNA in her underwear and it was her boyfriends and not Winstons?

Unless some slipped her ecstasy, which is not mentioned, I do not see her being drunk enough not to know what she was doing.

In any case if women are reading this it should tell them, not to get picked up drunk in a bar, and go back to a man’s apartment if you aren’t willing to have sex with the guy. IMO the act was consensual, barring drugs.

Is this man a pillar of modern morality? Hell no.
But he isn’t guilty of rape either.


10 posted on 12/07/2013 5:58:32 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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blood alcohol was only .048 actually….and there was no other controlled substance in her tox report.

She did what she wanted to do…..with who she wanted to do it with. Period.


11 posted on 12/07/2013 6:01:17 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

According to the report of prosecutors who chose NOT to prosecute, the girl WAS drunk. You disagree with the prosecutors who are not prosecuting?

Why does expecting young men to not engage in immoral behavior seem to be a bridge too difficult to cross? They’re homosexual if they treat women with respect?

Should a team not have expectations for moral and decent behavior in their players?


12 posted on 12/07/2013 6:01:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

you are just wrong dude….just wrong….I saw the press conferene, the states atty said she WAS NOT DRUNK and said the tox report showed .04 - which as he said “is not very high.”

You are just flat out wrong.


13 posted on 12/07/2013 6:02:32 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: boycott

The Tallahassee cops have a lot to answer for here. As for the States Atty, he seems to have come in and cleaned it up. Now I don’t pretend to know the relationship between the States Atty and the Tallahassee cops….but that would be an interesting thing to know


14 posted on 12/07/2013 6:04:10 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: SoFloFreeper

There are no real heroes here, to be sure.

One thing I don’t like is prosecutors (i.e. elected or appointed individuals who are supposed to UPHOLD our rights but usually act like they are at a shooting range choosing the juiciest targets) who declare they have....nothing to declare yet take the opportunity to imply that Person X is guilty of something but it can’t be proven.

Call me naive but if Person X isn’t charged then he shouldn’t have his name mentioned repeatedly by the authorities whether he’s a celebrity, athlete or truck driver. Bring a case or shut up. Dropping anvil-sized hints anywhere but the courtroom with the premeditated aim of dragging someone’s name through the mud is prosecutorial misconduct.


15 posted on 12/07/2013 6:05:00 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: SoFloFreeper

In fact, it’s the fact she CLAIMED to be too drunk to remember details - and yet was not - that probably led to the conclusions there was not much here.

And as for the idea of “expectations for moral and decent behavior” - that’s very pollyanish.


16 posted on 12/07/2013 6:06:14 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Venturer

Like I said, or tried to say, my question isn’t necessarily about rape but about the admitted behavior of sex with a stranger. Shouldn’t there be a value judgement and consequences placed upon such immorality?


17 posted on 12/07/2013 6:06:32 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Sorry. You’re correct. Total revenue $106 million. I miss-remembered an article I read some time ago which must have lumped several schools.

http://espn.go.com/ncaa/revenue


18 posted on 12/07/2013 6:08:00 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

I actually saw a report in an ACC area newspaper this morning that it was 43 million for Florida State….and of course, these football programs revenues pay for almost every other sport at a university.


19 posted on 12/07/2013 6:10:40 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: txrefugee

Willie Meggs is an FSU grad, but he is no friend to the football team. Just ask Peter Warrick or Travis Johnson.


20 posted on 12/07/2013 6:10:52 AM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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