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Fabled King Arthur ‘was a Scottish warlord’
The Scotsman ^ | 11-26-2013 | EMMA COWING

Posted on 11/25/2013 6:29:25 PM PST by Renfield

Author Adam Ardrey claims that instead of the romantic English king of legend who lived at Camelot – which is often said to be Tintagel in Cornwall or in Wales – Arthur was actually Arthur Mac Aedan, the sixth-century son of an ancient King of Scotland, whose Camelot was a marsh in Argyll.

He also suggests that Arthur pulled the sword Excalibur from a stone at Dunadd near Kilmartin, died near Falkirk and was buried on the Hebridean island of Iona, which he declares to be Avalon.

Ardrey, an amateur historian who works as an advocate in Edinburgh and previously wrote a book claiming Merlin the wizard was actually a politician who lived in the Partick area of Glasgow, spent years investigating his theories and says that they can be proved “beyond reasonable doubt”. The assertions in his book Finding Arthur: The True Origins Of The Once And Future King are strengthened by the discovery in 2011 of what some experts believe is King Arthur’s round table in the grounds of Stirling Castle.

Ardrey says he not only believes Arthur is buried in Iona but would love to see the site excavated to look for proof.

“The legendary Arthur is said to be buried in an island in the western seas – Avalon – but in the south of Britain there are no islands in the western seas,” he says...

(Excerpt) Read more at scotsman.com ...


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1 posted on 11/25/2013 6:29:25 PM PST by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 11/25/2013 6:29:45 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

No he is wrong. Camelot was the home of an Irish King from Boston. He was a killed by McOswald.


3 posted on 11/25/2013 6:35:34 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Renfield; SunkenCiv; Revolting cat!
Arthur was actually Arthur Mac Aedan, the sixth-century son of an ancient King of Scotland, whose Camelot was a marsh in Argyll.

A boggy swamp? That suits the Kennedy Legacy about right.

4 posted on 11/25/2013 6:35:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Renfield

‘Scots, wha hæ wi Wallace bled,
Scots, wham Bruce has aften led,
Welcome tæ yer gory bed,
Or tæ victorie


5 posted on 11/25/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Renfield

lol


6 posted on 11/25/2013 6:44:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Renfield
as a Scottish man of the druidic “Old Way”, he was the last of his kind

I never knew Arthur was Druish.

7 posted on 11/25/2013 6:49:01 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Renfield

an island in the western seas of England?

isle of mann?


8 posted on 11/25/2013 6:52:07 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: MUDDOG

Funny, he didn’t look Druish...


9 posted on 11/25/2013 6:54:11 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (Ephesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: Renfield
whose Camelot was a marsh in Argyll

King of Swamp Castle: When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

10 posted on 11/25/2013 6:54:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Renfield
Oh a new King Arthur interpretation and spanking new book to boot. I prefer the traditional one. Otoh, there is the introduction of the murky grassy gnome element in this tale— that troubles me. It just doesn't add up...
11 posted on 11/25/2013 6:58:43 PM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Renfield
"If it not Scottish, it's CRAP!"
12 posted on 11/25/2013 7:02:33 PM PST by Castlebar
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To: To Hell With Poverty

13 posted on 11/25/2013 7:05:45 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Renfield

Thanks for the post! What seems clear from all the legends and literature is that the one thing he was NOT was English. I’m guessing the Welsh side was the easiest locale for the English to accept (and later push) because they’d been the least ferocious in their hatred of the Sassenach.


14 posted on 11/25/2013 7:17:50 PM PST by Mach9
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To: Renfield

Nearly all the ancient kings are buried at Iona. As for Kilmartin Glen..I dont know, but, that was the area where the ancient kings ruled. These were the Picts, and the Scotty Irish kicked them out, eventually. The Picts simply vanished over a very short time. Lots of grave slabs over there that are really interesting to look at. Especially at Kilmartin.


15 posted on 11/25/2013 7:18:13 PM PST by crz
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To: yarddog

LOL!


16 posted on 11/25/2013 8:00:04 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: yarddog

No the camellot is outside of Riyadh.


17 posted on 11/25/2013 8:19:07 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Renfield

bttt


18 posted on 11/25/2013 9:14:00 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Renfield; a fool in paradise; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; ...

Thanks for the topic and pings! It's gotten more and more easy to believe that Arthur's story is a composite, some of which is lock stock and barrel borrowed from non-British folklore. And one of the Arthur stories has him conquering Gaul, a distorted recollection of a couple of Roman-era emperor wannabees, while other aspects appear to derive from Pre-Roman British characters. And the placename "Camelot" is obviously Camulodunum, Roman Colchester.

19 posted on 11/25/2013 11:18:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Renfield

Sounds interesting, BUT,

“Ardrey, an amateur historian who works as an advocate in Edinburgh”

If he was from France, Arthur would be French, Italy, he would be Italian - I see some chauvanism here.

I think Arthur was a Romano-British Warlord “Dux Bellorum” (Chief of Battles)who fought the Saxons sometime after the Romans pulled out of Britain.

The name Arthur appears related to a Latin word for “bear”, Prior to his activities in the late 5th and early 6th Century, Arthur was a relatively rare name. After that time, every other Celt in Britain was naming his kids after him. I think the best sources are Nennius and Gildas.

Nevertheless, in my efforts to read as much as possible about the REAL Arthur, not the fantasy of Sir Thomas Mallory, I must read this book.


20 posted on 11/25/2013 11:41:21 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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