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Missouri man trying to save stepson from fire hit with stun gun by police
FoxNews.com ^ | 11-7-2013 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 11/07/2013 6:52:20 PM PST by servo1969

The family of a 3-year-old killed in a northern Missouri house fire early Oct. 31 says it is outraged after police used a stun gun to subdue the boy's stepfather as he tried to run back into the burning house to rescue the boy.

Riley Miller, the boy, died in the fire at the home in the town of Louisiana. A city police officer fired his stun gun at the stepfather, Ryan Miller, as he tried to re-enter the burning home. Authorities at the scene reportedly determined it was too dangerous to make an attempt to save the boy.

"He was the joy of my life"

- Ryan Miller

Lori Miller, the boy's grandmother, says she witnessed two officers use the stun gun three times, twice after Ryan Miller had been handcuffed. Miller suffered chest burns and was later released from the city jail without being charged.

City Administrator Bob Jenne called the police response a "judgment call.” A firefighter tried unsuccessfully to enter the home and it was deemed too hot for the stepfather to enter.

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KEYWORDS: fire; gun; missouri; mo; police; stun; taser
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This is tough one. It's hard for me to decide how I feel about the cops actions.

I've stood a few yards away from a man as he burned to death in a mobile home. There was nothing we could do. We couldn't get to him. Long story.

I can see why the cops didn't want him to go in. But I can't blame him for not caring about his own life.

No winners here.

1 posted on 11/07/2013 6:52:20 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Did they shoot the dog? Neighbor’s dog?


2 posted on 11/07/2013 6:57:14 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: servo1969

Oh, I didn’t notice the cops stunned him after he was handcuffed. I guess I was thinking too much about that day. It that’s true then they’re @ssholes. I’ll never understand why cops think someone who is in restraints needs to be shocked some more. Seems like cops are learning to rely on stun guns to do their jobs for them.


3 posted on 11/07/2013 6:58:40 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

LORD have mercy on this family. How tragic.


4 posted on 11/07/2013 6:59:38 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: servo1969

Tazered once, handcuffed, then hit two more times??

What were the cops just tired of hearing him plead for the life of his son?


5 posted on 11/07/2013 7:03:48 PM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Delta 21

That’s what I’m thinking.

“Calm down, Sir!”

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“I order you to calm down!”

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6 posted on 11/07/2013 7:08:12 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

What jumped out at me was the statement that the “authorities” said it was not safe to go back in. I do understand why they would come to that conclusion but in a free society, shouldn’t that be the step dads call?


7 posted on 11/07/2013 7:08:22 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: servo1969

Can’t blame them for stopping him or him wanting to save his son but come on if a couple of cops can’t keep a man who is already restrained from getting up off the ground then they need some retraining.

Mel


9 posted on 11/07/2013 7:11:01 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: ghannonf18

“A Man has the god given right to sacrifice himself in an attempt to save his family, futile or not....”

That’s absolutely right.


10 posted on 11/07/2013 7:17:07 PM PST by CelesteChristi
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To: ghannonf18

agreed

if I choose to risk my life for another, that’s my choice... not some govt union goon


11 posted on 11/07/2013 7:20:58 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: servo1969

Nope, no winners here. Likely they saved the man’s life. Likely he would rather give his life to save his son’s.


12 posted on 11/07/2013 7:23:51 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: liege
Authorities at the scene reportedly determined it was too dangerous to make an attempt to save the boy.

I don't know how I could live with myself as a father if I didn't at least try.

13 posted on 11/07/2013 7:24:39 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: servo1969

But two tases while he was in handcuffs, according to grandmother. Could they have been excessive?


14 posted on 11/07/2013 7:26:07 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: servo1969

Drag the cop into the street and set him on fire in front of the entire community, including his kids.


15 posted on 11/07/2013 7:26:22 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: liege; servo1969
What jumped out at me was the statement that the “authorities” said it was not safe to go back in. I do understand why they would come to that conclusion but in a free society, shouldn’t that be the step dads call?

We are no longer a free society we are a litigious society.

The emergency responders are responsible for the lives of those in there immediate vicinity. The fire fighters and police on a call are legally required to ensure the safety of those at the scene.

If they had permitted the man to enter an active fire when they could have prevented him doing so they would have been legally responsible for his death, the city or county would have faced wrongful death law suits.

I am a trained fire fighter so I can assure you if a fireman in his turnout gear could not enter the building the stepfather would have either have turned back or died a few feet inside the door.

16 posted on 11/07/2013 7:29:47 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

We feel for the family... but at some point you gotta wonder why they came out of the house and left the 3 year old in there.... you know.


17 posted on 11/07/2013 7:33:08 PM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: servo1969

We did this last night.

Cops did the right thing and saved his life.


18 posted on 11/07/2013 7:39:21 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: servo1969

Which is why they removed him from the scene.

Too tragic..


19 posted on 11/07/2013 7:40:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: liege

They came to that conclusion because the fireman couldn’t enter the home because it was too hot.


20 posted on 11/07/2013 7:42:24 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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