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Tea Party being compared to KKK

Posted on 10/19/2013 6:30:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative

Please excuse any mistakes but I'm new. I'm a member of a bicycling forum and they hate me for being a Conservative and a Tea Party supporter. The forum has a political section.

Last night there was a thread comparing the Tea Party to the KKK. I normally keep my mouth shut but the Tea Party hatred there was more than the norm. I reminded them that the Democrats were behind the founding of the KKK and provided links. One link was even from the Black Republican website. They called the KKK the terrorist arm of the Democrat party. Of course some of them started attacking me and stating that the Democrats and Republicans then have switched and the Republicans of now were actually the Democrats from then and on and on and on.

I'm a supporter of our local Tea Party and have never seen anything racist in the group or others that I have followed. They even have a Black member or two.

What is wrong with these people? Was I wrong or are they just severely warped? I'm going to leave that group because it is more infested with Liberals than I realized and it's only a matter of time before they make me mad enough to get banned anyway.

If I posted this incorrectly or in the wrong place, please tell me so that I know better next time.


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To: Tennessee Conservative

Stay calm and rational, post facts and logical arguments.
You may cause a few lurkers to reevaluate their ideas.


41 posted on 10/19/2013 7:36:50 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Tennessee Conservative

One of your specific points indicated the Dixiecrat myth... good reading here:
http://www.freedomsjournal.net/2011/10/22/urban-legends-the-dixiecrats-and-the-gop/


42 posted on 10/19/2013 7:42:22 AM PDT by KnutKase (VRWC member since 1988)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
Welcome aboard!

Leftism involves maintaining a sense of moral superiority. So anybody disagreeing with Leftism must necessarily be either "ignorant" (you notice they use that word a lot?), stupid (they enjoy mocking conservatives as being unintelligent) or evil.

It then logically follows that anybody able to put up a rational argument against a Leftist position is not ignorant, and must therefore be EVIL. Evil people must be excluded from the group, lest they contaminate others with their evil thoughts. No right-thinking person should allow himself any potential of being contaminated by listening to, or associating with, an evil person.

The great Thomas Sowell covers the topic in this video and in his book "The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy".

43 posted on 10/19/2013 7:46:34 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Vanbasten
Lunatic liberal cyclists? Doesn’t sound very intimidating, lol.

Look up Critical Mass. In many cities, leftist bikers in groups of a hundred or more will cycle as a group through the streets, ignoring traffic lights and daring cars to mess with them. Video: Critical Mass clash with police

44 posted on 10/19/2013 7:55:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

When is the last time a ‘member’ of the Tea Party lynched someone? ‘Taxed Enough Already’...if these liberals aren’t associated with a Tea Party group; perhaps they need to pay more taxes...


45 posted on 10/19/2013 8:10:18 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Liberals - what are ya gonna do? Can’t live with them and can’t kill them (yet).

Seriously, it sounds like you’ve already committed to a plan (”I’m going to leave that group”) but you should recognize that, sooner or later you will have to deal with these people.

The best approach to dealing with leftists is by using humor and the truth (neither of which they can handle). Recognize that NONE of them want a serious or sincere dialog with you - all they are looking for is an emotional response. Instead of giving them the satisfaction of that I prefer to taunt and tease them (and traumatize them if they persist).

Instead of going on the defensive (”I’m not member of the KKK!”) say, “Say, wasn’t the KKK the public relations wing of the democrat party?” Instead of legitimizing their complaint about Tea Partiers being racist turn it around like sauropod did in post #7, “Oh, you mean racists like Al Gore Sr. and J. William Fulbright, Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, Bull Connor, and George Wallace? Those racists? Or do you mean racists like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or Barack Øbama? Those racists?”

You don’t have to do deep research to bolster your case (although it helps). Leftists shun the truth like vampires shun sunlight. Just remember that, although they don’t hold a claim on “inventing” slavery, it was democrats who constructed a whole society around the Particular Institution and who went to war against their own country in order to perpetuate and expand it. It was democrats who formed the KKK to “keep the darkies in their place” and devised Jim Crowe laws to isolate and exclude blacks from participation in society. And it was democrats who fought, tooth and nail, against the Civil Rights legislation of the fifties and sixties. Remember “Separate but equal”?

It was the democrats who then turned history on its head and proclaimed themselves Champion of the Black Man. They shrewdly sought favor amongst blacks by handing out trinkets paid for out of the public coffers.

One thing that I will give the left credit for - they are masters of the euphemism. Things like “The Great Society” or the “war on poverty”. What a crock! The left has been waging a war on poverty for over 50 years - with our money - and things are worse now than ever! Why? Because they have created an entitlement generation. They have become accustomed to having things handed to them (instead of earning it) and so now EXPECT everything to be gratis.

Remember too that discretion is the better part of valor. No reasonable person expects you to fight in every skirmish. But sooner or later you will stake out a little slice of heaven and will want to stand your ground. Just remember - truth applied with a healthy dose of humor. They won’t know what hit ‘em ;’)


46 posted on 10/19/2013 8:12:32 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
What is wrong with these people?

They've swallowed the Kool-Aid that's constantly poured by the likes of Tingles Matthews, Rachel Maddow and that gal Chris Hayes.....it's the Chinese Water Torture tactic - drip, drip, drip; tell the same lie often enough kinda stuff.

47 posted on 10/19/2013 8:14:24 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

The ‘biking community’ has an entrenched spokesman in the U.S. House of Congress, named Earl Blumenauer.

Yes, the biking community is more liberal than it once was, as I remember it, in the early 80’s, in the days where USENET was the big thing for communications between folks.


48 posted on 10/19/2013 8:22:06 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Truthfully, bicycling attracts a lot of liberals, and liberals of the type that are intensely bigoted and rigid minded. Even if they are in the minority they will shout down anyone that does not conform to their prejudiced world view.

Note I did not say “anything”, but “anyone”. That is, any person who disagrees with them they will attack personally from that time forward. They cannot distinguish *an* argument from a person, and they will hate you thereafter.

Their world is divided into “us vs. them”, and the side of “us”, in their minds, must be “pure”, untrammeled with “them” ideas. Once contaminated with *anything* the “them” side says, they are damned, and are no longer part of “us”.

It is a really awful way to live.


49 posted on 10/19/2013 8:25:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Except the KKK were Democrats.


50 posted on 10/19/2013 8:36:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

“I have never seen anything from other Tea Party supporters that makes them be what liberals claim them to be. I assume that they are very scared of the Tea Party? That is all I can come up with to explain the treatment we get.”

The Tea Party is the truth and liberals are afraid of the truth.

Good quote to know. “Want to piss of a conservative, tell them a lie. Want to piss off a liberal, tell them the truth.”


51 posted on 10/19/2013 8:38:53 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Find a new hobby. That one is too full of a-holes.


52 posted on 10/19/2013 8:39:46 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
I'm a supporter of our local Tea Party and have never seen anything racist in the group or others that I have followed. They even have a Black member or two.

Projection. The left wants to portray anyone who does not agree with them as doing what they think/do themselves. Like in Islam, lying is OK with the left because it is for the "greater good" (advancement of Islam).

53 posted on 10/19/2013 8:45:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: winner3000
I was just wondering how the Democrats feel now that Obama has caused them much pain. ObamaCare will cost them dearly even if they are in the FoodStamp club. I have noticed that many loyal Democrats are jumping ship to save their ****.
54 posted on 10/19/2013 8:49:56 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
I had to drop a Facebook friend yesterday because of something similar. He's a real liberal jerk (apologies for the redundancy), a semi-famous comedian who uses his Facebook wall to spew the most outrageous political garbage. And of course his other friends are all fans who kiss his rear end and tell him how brilliant he is. Every few days there was some comment designed to stick a thumb in the eye of conservatives. I put up with it because occasionally he would provide updates about his upcoming projects, and that was a topic of interest to me.

But yesterday was the last straw. He was gloating over the outcome of the shutdown and he said (I'm paraphrasing): "Hey Teabaggers! If you're upset about what happened, you can always go watch the new movie 12 Years A Slave so you can reminisce about the good old days!" I read that and I said to myself, "Why am I still friends with this a-hole?" I thought about telling him off, but I knew that his legion of brown-nosers would just attack me. So I just "unfriended" him. And I felt much better. I may have to do that to more people in the future, just to preserve some peace of mind.

55 posted on 10/19/2013 8:53:34 AM PDT by Rainbow Rising ("If America was a house, the left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: KnutKase; Tennessee Conservative

Recently, when discussing that democrats are the party of the KKK, I had a lib tell me that same thing- that the democrats used to be the party of racist, but now the republicans were.

I took it to mean that as a change in ideology, but now I see that she meant that racist dems actually changed their party and became republicans.

So, evidently this is the dem party talking point. They are acknowledging that they are the party of racist origin, but where’re the apologies, where’s the shame? They obviously don’t need to have any since the racists have left and joined us, they have successfully eliminated them from their ranks.

Evil, demented, genius.


56 posted on 10/19/2013 8:57:12 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
The real problem is that Black Americans have sold themselves back into slavery and don't even realize it. They all want to work for the government and take the benefits the democrats give them. The price is their votes. They keep the Dems in place as their “masters” and “yes, boss” to everything that Reid, Pelosi, and Obama tell them to do... And if the middle class doesn't feed (EBT/SNAP) them through the government they will “Nate Turner” us just like last week.
57 posted on 10/19/2013 9:07:14 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Doesn’t make any sense.
The KKK were Democrats the Tea Party are Republicans.
Some people just ignore facts and history to push their agendas


58 posted on 10/19/2013 9:17:34 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go tave atteno sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: no-to-illegals

Yep, they have really tried to do just that. I know of only three other conservatives in there and they aren’t as conservative as I am and the liberals are awful to them. The only advantage they have is that they have been there longer. The liberals bait the conservatives trying to get them banned and with both moderators being liberals it’s just a matter of time.


59 posted on 10/19/2013 9:53:01 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: All

Thanks so much to everybody that has responded with so much helpful advice. If I can figure out how to save this thread I will be able to use it the information in the future.

I love Thomas Sowell! I have read a lot of his writings and he is amazing and very intelligent.

When I retired in July of this year the company I retired from gave me a Trek bike for 36 years of service. It had been so long since I had time to ride that a lot had changed and bikes were different so I went there to learn. I don’t ride in a group and won’t. I’m purely a recreational rider and I do respect traffic, unlike some of them. I live in a rural area and only ride back roads by myself. I am very out of place in that forum but I see now what you mean by them being mostly liberals.

I will keep this information for future run-ins with them.


60 posted on 10/19/2013 9:53:01 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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