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Tea Party being compared to KKK

Posted on 10/19/2013 6:30:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative

Please excuse any mistakes but I'm new. I'm a member of a bicycling forum and they hate me for being a Conservative and a Tea Party supporter. The forum has a political section.

Last night there was a thread comparing the Tea Party to the KKK. I normally keep my mouth shut but the Tea Party hatred there was more than the norm. I reminded them that the Democrats were behind the founding of the KKK and provided links. One link was even from the Black Republican website. They called the KKK the terrorist arm of the Democrat party. Of course some of them started attacking me and stating that the Democrats and Republicans then have switched and the Republicans of now were actually the Democrats from then and on and on and on.

I'm a supporter of our local Tea Party and have never seen anything racist in the group or others that I have followed. They even have a Black member or two.

What is wrong with these people? Was I wrong or are they just severely warped? I'm going to leave that group because it is more infested with Liberals than I realized and it's only a matter of time before they make me mad enough to get banned anyway.

If I posted this incorrectly or in the wrong place, please tell me so that I know better next time.


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1 posted on 10/19/2013 6:30:26 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Meh

So what’s new.


2 posted on 10/19/2013 6:32:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

People are idiots.

The tragedy is that they are too caught up in their ideology to realize that they are getting screwed.


3 posted on 10/19/2013 6:36:50 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Tennessee Conservative
Isn't kkk a democrats organization?
4 posted on 10/19/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative; zot

Communist and Alinsky rules of agitprop and smearing the character of your opponents. Paint them as what they are not. Make sure to use the methods of the group you are accusing them to be, to do the smear.


5 posted on 10/19/2013 6:38:52 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: cripplecreek

Something to understand about liberals. It is called “projection” and is an Alinsky tactic. Liberals will call their opponents something that they are. It makes them feel good.

As we know,the Tea Party are Conservatives who believe in the Constitution. Liberals are from the radical left. So they call the Tea Party radicals. It is also why liberals insult Conservatives. The way to take down a liberal is to insult them. Projection..

Something libs don’t understand is Conservatives, especially those who are political wonks have read Rules for Radicals. It is required reading.


6 posted on 10/19/2013 6:40:58 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Tell them that Al Gore Sr. and J. William Fulbright (Clinton’s mentor) were Democrats that opposed passage of the civil rights bill.

Tell them that Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, Bull Connor, and George Wallace were all Democrats. One of them stood in the schoolhouse door to prevent discrimination.

Tell them that abortion disproportionately kills blacks.

Tell them.

But you’ll probably have to find other people to ride bikes with.

BTW, Ann Coulter’s book Mugged is an excellent history of all this. Researched well and well endnoted. A must read.


7 posted on 10/19/2013 6:50:31 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Lunatic liberal cyclists?

Doesn’t sound very intimidating, lol.


8 posted on 10/19/2013 6:52:03 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Actually the GOPe does act like the kkk, but their actions are not racially motivated, their motive is to marginalize, defeat and destroy all those who desire the restoration of Free Republic.

They do this in cooperation with democrat kkk, the GOPe could not lead, they will not get out of the way, and they chose to follow.


9 posted on 10/19/2013 6:52:11 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Just call them followers of Margaret Sanger!


10 posted on 10/19/2013 6:53:07 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Tennessee Conservative

I just wish that name calling like this didn’t make most of the right run around in circles. Make them acquiesce to all kinds of racial based crap.

It doesn’t matter if its true or not there is no convincing the current MSM, Politico’s, Marxist etc. It is a tactic and the only way to fight back is to ridicule it or better yet embrace it and bring it out in the open. You wanna talk bout race? Then let’s. They manipulate by doing so and most of the right instead of pushing back or telling them to FO spend their time trying to prove they are not ‘racist’( what ever they hell that even means) The right has to quit not only accommodating them but come out full force against all this racial crap . Why in the hell do we put up with the likes of the Black Caucus, NAACP and any other so called ‘civil rights’ organizations? We will lose it all if we don’t fight fire with fire.


11 posted on 10/19/2013 6:53:21 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Just the usual media and left wing tactic of vilifying the right.


12 posted on 10/19/2013 6:56:34 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

These are people who feel inferior for good reason, but who are trying to convince themselves that they are losers because they are victims.

Obama encourages these fantasies, probably because his Black half still indulges in them himself, and because he can use them to further his vindictive goals.

Those he has indoctrinated into this pathetic ideology will die wondering why their lives amounted to nothing.


13 posted on 10/19/2013 6:57:20 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: mountainlion

That is what I have been taught my entire life. All of the searches I have done to verify my facts turned up that yes, they were/are a Democrat organization from the beginning.

Obviously they don’t like to be faced with inconvenient truths and facts. It throws a wrench in their rewriting of history.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 6:57:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Thanks for the explanation and to the rest of you for your replies. One thing I have learned during the brief time I have been in that forum is that the best way to cause an explosion is to state the truth and back it up with facts that they have a difficult time explaining away.

I have never seen anything from other Tea Party supporters that makes them be what liberals claim them to be. I assume that they are very scared of the Tea Party? That is all I can come up with to explain the treatment we get.


15 posted on 10/19/2013 6:57:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Welcome to FR.

Concern trolling doesn’t last long here, however.


16 posted on 10/19/2013 6:59:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Here’s what I’d say.

First, I’d tell them that being KKK means you instantly judge someone based on some superficial factor - like race, religion, nationality, or even political affiliation - and then without any other evidence, and based SOLELY on your contempt for those which belong to a group that you hate, you not only dwell upon your hatred of that group, but also encourage others to as well. Naturally, what makes these KKK groups dangerous is that sometimes their rage goes beyond mere insults and name-calling when these groups lash out in violent attacks motivated by their blind hatred.

And then I’d add - but since I’m sure that you’re not engaging in this KKK kind of blind hatred of a group based on any of these superficial factors, perhaps you can give me some reasonable basis for why you hate me and the Tea Party.


17 posted on 10/19/2013 7:05:00 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: Tennessee Conservative

FWIW, I despise cyclists.

Especially the ones with the gay-ly colored spandex outfits who block the highway because they are too good to stay in the bike lanes on skinny country roads...

Please tell me you don’t wear spandex and force people to risk head on collisions in order to avoid killing you on skinny country roads.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 7:05:06 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

What they ‘know’ about the Tea Party they learned from Stuie Leibowitz, Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert. Ignore them - or challenge them to open their minds by attending a Tea Party event.


19 posted on 10/19/2013 7:05:33 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
Tell them that the Republicans ended slavery. That is the main reason the party was formed.

99% of the democrats that were against blacks did not convert to the Republican party. It's a lie they promote to take advantage of their ignorant supporters.

20 posted on 10/19/2013 7:06:36 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Unfortunately, we have to start speaking out. Their propaganda machine is in full force. I am not smart enough to know what to do about this. We have a president who is mocked all over the world and he is terrorizing us.


21 posted on 10/19/2013 7:07:23 AM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY (Invictus Maneo !!)
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To: sauropod

Thanks for that good info. I doubt I will be able to use it much longer in that forum but it will be good for any other time I tangle with liberals.


22 posted on 10/19/2013 7:07:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Vanbasten

I suspect that face-to-face they would not be nearly so brave. :-)


23 posted on 10/19/2013 7:07:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Tennessee Conservative
Was I wrong or are they just severely warped?

They are nuttier then a fruitcake.

It is the way they are. History is what happened before yesterday and they do not remember it.

24 posted on 10/19/2013 7:08:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Maybe it was then, as it is now...maybe the Klan were Democrats because their real issue with blacks was that blacks voted mostly Republican. Notice how Republican-voting blacks are smeared, rejected and ridiculed by Democrats even now. After they bullied them into voting Democrat, they could then promote the idea that the Klan was a Republican thing. They just want power, whatever it takes. I watched a biography of Jimmy Carter who ran early on as a segregationist because that is what it took to get elected at the time. You are what you do, not what you say you are. To this day it is Democrats who want to first and foremost focus on the color of someone’s skin...affirmative action, La Raza and so on.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 7:09:38 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Simply understand, these people are ignorant, it’s simply a matter of fac.

You know who you are, you know what your about, and they’re ignorant of the truth...willfully ignorant.


26 posted on 10/19/2013 7:10:14 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
a matter of time before they make me mad enough to get banned anyway.

That is a very telling statement.

27 posted on 10/19/2013 7:11:30 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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one should never go in without Gunpowder and Lead.


28 posted on 10/19/2013 7:13:38 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Why would anyone compare the TEA Party with a group of Democrats?


29 posted on 10/19/2013 7:13:39 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Welcome and thanks for posting. What you are seeing is the result of successfully smearing of the tea party. What the Democrats excel at is pick an opponent and through the power of repetition and the sheer number of celebrities and media amplifying channels, smear that opponent and leave their reputation tattered NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH IS.

While I didn’t like Mitt Romney as the standard bearer for the Republican Party during the last Presidential election, I knew that that at least his character was beyond reproach, and that would make it tough for the Democrats to smear him. Well guess what - they did and succeeded wildly at it. Suddenly someone who has no scandal tied to his name, who pays huge amounts of money (both nominally and as a percentage of his income) to charity, who demonstrated an ability to work with people across the political spectrum, and who succeeded wildly building businesses in the private sector, and as a service to his country (he saved the Olympics), was successfully smeared as someone who ships jobs abroad (happened AFTER his tenure at Bain), who doesn’t care about the poor, etc.

Their success is chilling. So don’t be too surprised by the hatred, and pray it does not get directed at you personally. Before the Nazis sent the Jews to the ovens, they had to first dehumanize them. Now that we know how good Democrats are at doing just that, it is terrifying to think about what they plan to do with that power. So we have to learn from the Jews and stick together and resist now before it’s too late.


30 posted on 10/19/2013 7:14:13 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Tennessee Conservative

What’s happened?

It’s Germany, 1932, and we’re like the Jews.

The demonization will only get worse.


31 posted on 10/19/2013 7:14:50 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Tennessee Conservative
The perverted lying liberals are priming the hate pump for their next agenda... Legalize the illegal invasion. Why the bishops already have their speaking parts written and this will be called the most compassionate act since the so called end of slavery.

By the way TeaParty is opposition to taxation - mandates without representation. Liberals are filled over the top with envy and every move they make is to spread a deep layer of misery across this nation. Subjugation of the masses is nearly complete.

32 posted on 10/19/2013 7:15:22 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks for the welcome. I didn’t feel that I was concern trolling. I do realize that all new members of a forum are suspect until they have been there for a while so I was prepared to not be truly welcome until I become better known with more posts. I’m a long time member of another Conservative forum but it is smaller than this one. After browsing this one I figured there might be more information here due to it’s size.

I was taken by surprise by some of their ‘facts’ in the bike forum that I was pretty sure were incorrect. I don’t want to do the same thing if I’m not sure what I am talking about even if they do deny it. That gives them more ammo and they already think Conservatives are idiots.


33 posted on 10/19/2013 7:18:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: P-Marlowe

NEVER! LOL I ride back country roads and only joined because I bought a new bike and needed info. I’m a normal person, not some weenie in spandex. LOL


34 posted on 10/19/2013 7:18:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Conservative
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To: Tennessee Conservative

They fear us.


35 posted on 10/19/2013 7:19:10 AM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Challenge them to name one racist KKK Democrat who became a Republican after the passage of the Voting Rights Act in 1965. Then ask them why, if what they are saying is true, the racist KKK member Robert Byrd never became a Republican.


36 posted on 10/19/2013 7:20:09 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Free Republic is The House That Built Me ... and Each of Us. There is NOT a more informative site on the web. Remember to contribute to keeping this site open. Good Luck. May your years turn to decades of learning for each time here, for me, I learn something new and informative.


37 posted on 10/19/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
First, don't make the mistake of using facts and logic alone. These are people that have been educated on lies wrapped in a silly statement. One example is the “swapped sides” line you mentioned. First you must set a goal for yourself. It can be to fight with them, it can be to educate them, it can be to get them to the point that they are filled with rage. Choose carefully. Then, proceed with a fact backed with an emotional tie in. For example: Longtime Democrat Senator Robert Byrd admitted to recruiting hundreds of people to join him in the KKK. Can you imagine how bad the black West Virginians must have felt having a racist member of the KKK represent them in Washington all those years?
38 posted on 10/19/2013 7:25:15 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: everyone

okay, I read those thoughts and though Free Republic is The House That Built Me ... I’m not a bot. Am a nick though.


39 posted on 10/19/2013 7:27:31 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

One more thing then am gone. Free Republic does not employ or utilize bots to the best of my knowledge. When dealing with democRATs and their sites, if the truth were known, most of the posters are bots.


40 posted on 10/19/2013 7:29:42 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Stay calm and rational, post facts and logical arguments.
You may cause a few lurkers to reevaluate their ideas.


41 posted on 10/19/2013 7:36:50 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Tennessee Conservative

One of your specific points indicated the Dixiecrat myth... good reading here:
http://www.freedomsjournal.net/2011/10/22/urban-legends-the-dixiecrats-and-the-gop/


42 posted on 10/19/2013 7:42:22 AM PDT by KnutKase (VRWC member since 1988)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
Welcome aboard!

Leftism involves maintaining a sense of moral superiority. So anybody disagreeing with Leftism must necessarily be either "ignorant" (you notice they use that word a lot?), stupid (they enjoy mocking conservatives as being unintelligent) or evil.

It then logically follows that anybody able to put up a rational argument against a Leftist position is not ignorant, and must therefore be EVIL. Evil people must be excluded from the group, lest they contaminate others with their evil thoughts. No right-thinking person should allow himself any potential of being contaminated by listening to, or associating with, an evil person.

The great Thomas Sowell covers the topic in this video and in his book "The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy".

43 posted on 10/19/2013 7:46:34 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Vanbasten
Lunatic liberal cyclists? Doesn’t sound very intimidating, lol.

Look up Critical Mass. In many cities, leftist bikers in groups of a hundred or more will cycle as a group through the streets, ignoring traffic lights and daring cars to mess with them. Video: Critical Mass clash with police

44 posted on 10/19/2013 7:55:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

When is the last time a ‘member’ of the Tea Party lynched someone? ‘Taxed Enough Already’...if these liberals aren’t associated with a Tea Party group; perhaps they need to pay more taxes...


45 posted on 10/19/2013 8:10:18 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Liberals - what are ya gonna do? Can’t live with them and can’t kill them (yet).

Seriously, it sounds like you’ve already committed to a plan (”I’m going to leave that group”) but you should recognize that, sooner or later you will have to deal with these people.

The best approach to dealing with leftists is by using humor and the truth (neither of which they can handle). Recognize that NONE of them want a serious or sincere dialog with you - all they are looking for is an emotional response. Instead of giving them the satisfaction of that I prefer to taunt and tease them (and traumatize them if they persist).

Instead of going on the defensive (”I’m not member of the KKK!”) say, “Say, wasn’t the KKK the public relations wing of the democrat party?” Instead of legitimizing their complaint about Tea Partiers being racist turn it around like sauropod did in post #7, “Oh, you mean racists like Al Gore Sr. and J. William Fulbright, Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, Bull Connor, and George Wallace? Those racists? Or do you mean racists like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, or Barack Øbama? Those racists?”

You don’t have to do deep research to bolster your case (although it helps). Leftists shun the truth like vampires shun sunlight. Just remember that, although they don’t hold a claim on “inventing” slavery, it was democrats who constructed a whole society around the Particular Institution and who went to war against their own country in order to perpetuate and expand it. It was democrats who formed the KKK to “keep the darkies in their place” and devised Jim Crowe laws to isolate and exclude blacks from participation in society. And it was democrats who fought, tooth and nail, against the Civil Rights legislation of the fifties and sixties. Remember “Separate but equal”?

It was the democrats who then turned history on its head and proclaimed themselves Champion of the Black Man. They shrewdly sought favor amongst blacks by handing out trinkets paid for out of the public coffers.

One thing that I will give the left credit for - they are masters of the euphemism. Things like “The Great Society” or the “war on poverty”. What a crock! The left has been waging a war on poverty for over 50 years - with our money - and things are worse now than ever! Why? Because they have created an entitlement generation. They have become accustomed to having things handed to them (instead of earning it) and so now EXPECT everything to be gratis.

Remember too that discretion is the better part of valor. No reasonable person expects you to fight in every skirmish. But sooner or later you will stake out a little slice of heaven and will want to stand your ground. Just remember - truth applied with a healthy dose of humor. They won’t know what hit ‘em ;’)


46 posted on 10/19/2013 8:12:32 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Tennessee Conservative
What is wrong with these people?

They've swallowed the Kool-Aid that's constantly poured by the likes of Tingles Matthews, Rachel Maddow and that gal Chris Hayes.....it's the Chinese Water Torture tactic - drip, drip, drip; tell the same lie often enough kinda stuff.

47 posted on 10/19/2013 8:14:24 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

The ‘biking community’ has an entrenched spokesman in the U.S. House of Congress, named Earl Blumenauer.

Yes, the biking community is more liberal than it once was, as I remember it, in the early 80’s, in the days where USENET was the big thing for communications between folks.


48 posted on 10/19/2013 8:22:06 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Truthfully, bicycling attracts a lot of liberals, and liberals of the type that are intensely bigoted and rigid minded. Even if they are in the minority they will shout down anyone that does not conform to their prejudiced world view.

Note I did not say “anything”, but “anyone”. That is, any person who disagrees with them they will attack personally from that time forward. They cannot distinguish *an* argument from a person, and they will hate you thereafter.

Their world is divided into “us vs. them”, and the side of “us”, in their minds, must be “pure”, untrammeled with “them” ideas. Once contaminated with *anything* the “them” side says, they are damned, and are no longer part of “us”.

It is a really awful way to live.


49 posted on 10/19/2013 8:25:50 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Except the KKK were Democrats.


50 posted on 10/19/2013 8:36:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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