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Those Darn Facts: Liberal professor shocked to discover Tea Party smarter than average.
Cultural Cognition Project ^ | 10/15/2013 | Dan Kahan

Posted on 10/17/2013 5:33:57 AM PDT by Beave Meister

Dan Kahan, the Elizabeth K. Dollard Professor of Law and Professor of Psychology at Yale Law School was curious about the relationship between ”science comprehension“ and political outlooks. His findings shocked him: tea party supporters are actually more scientifically literate than the non-tea party population

I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension.

But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party. All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the “paper” (New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused internet sites like Huffington Post & Politico).

I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.

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The average Teaparty member is way smarter than the average liberal professor
1 posted on 10/17/2013 5:33:58 AM PDT by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

BTTT.


2 posted on 10/17/2013 5:36:05 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Beave Meister

And at least 1/2 of the Tea Party members I’ve met are war vets. From WW11 to Iraq.

They fought and put their lives on the line so that Professor Doucebag Weenie could have a cushy college gig and be a stupid ass day in and day but be confused with someone who’s intelligent.


3 posted on 10/17/2013 5:38:39 AM PDT by albie
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To: Beave Meister
This guy is apparently paid to study gnats' differences in correlations of political outlooks with whatever other personal characteristics he is interested in.

I suggest that he study the science comprehension of EBT users, Medicaid users, people who vote for DWS, etc.

4 posted on 10/17/2013 5:42:42 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Beave Meister
Yale professor Dan Kahan ... "I don’t know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party."
5 posted on 10/17/2013 5:43:13 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Beave Meister
I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.

Good for him. A little humility goes a long way.

6 posted on 10/17/2013 5:46:27 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: Beave Meister

Very few of these people would even make it to Mensa.

I know very few who wouldn’t.


7 posted on 10/17/2013 5:47:10 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Beave Meister
Kind of reminds me of the liberal from New York City, as I recall, who couldn't understand how Ronald Reagan could have been elected, since no one he knew voted for him.

(may have been a different Republican victory)

8 posted on 10/17/2013 5:49:14 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Beave Meister

Amazes me how susceptible to propaganda the presumptive “knowledge” class has become. They have no intellectual curiosity what so ever, at least towards politics. They are like children. The MSM manipulates and distorts, and academia laps it up..


9 posted on 10/17/2013 5:49:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Beave Meister
But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party.

Sounds like that woman who didn't know anyone who voted for Nixon.

Guess the dude's a bit to insulated to make a fair judgement of reality.

10 posted on 10/17/2013 5:50:44 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Beave Meister

This tea partier has had the science channel on all morning. This morning I watched a show about the science behind the engineering of the Eiffel Tower. Last night it was shows about space physics and gravity.

That sort of thing interests me.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 5:51:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Beave Meister
I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension.

That's because you've convinced yourself, ie, drank the koolaid, that liberals are inherently smarter because... because they're liberals.

12 posted on 10/17/2013 5:52:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: KosmicKitty

to = too

kk<— posting before coffee. Bad kitty


13 posted on 10/17/2013 5:53:09 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Beave Meister

Not to worry, professor; only a matter of days before your colleagues apply Global Warming statistical methodology to prove Tea Partiers are dumber than a bag of hammers.


14 posted on 10/17/2013 5:53:21 AM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: Beave Meister

I doubt his reading habits will change after noting the source of his ‘confusion’ (NY Times, Politico, Huffington...non-Fox). Call me impressed when we starting thinking about 2nd A, ‘global warming’, ‘the poor’, etc. objectively.


15 posted on 10/17/2013 5:53:38 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: Paladin2

This board never fails to make me laugh.


16 posted on 10/17/2013 5:55:23 AM PDT by gattaca ("Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cripplecreek
On our road trips, we listen to Dan Carlin's hardcore history podcasts, http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive. I highly recommend them if you like history as well as science.
17 posted on 10/17/2013 5:56:22 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Beave Meister
I find the notion that "religious people/conservatives/Tea Partiers must be ignorant fools" to be offensive on its face.

I may think that progs are evil, but I'd never accuse them of being ignorant fools. Their serfs in the Free Sh*t Army are as ignorant as the day is long, but the progs themselves are not.

18 posted on 10/17/2013 5:57:26 AM PDT by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: Paladin2
I suggest that he study the science comprehension of EBT users, Medicaid users, people who vote for DWS, etc

Indeed. The left's "mascot" base is something they really should be proud of.

19 posted on 10/17/2013 5:57:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: KosmicKitty

Science and history are my favorites balanced with diversions like sports and a handful of dramas on TV.


20 posted on 10/17/2013 5:59:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Beave Meister

Tea Partier here who designs and builds bids his own telescopes. How about you, professor?


21 posted on 10/17/2013 6:02:08 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy

The professor studies statistics that validate his own distorted worldview.


22 posted on 10/17/2013 6:03:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Beave Meister

Welcome to the real world, professor. Your little social theories may sound wonderful but step outside of the conference room once in a while.


23 posted on 10/17/2013 6:03:44 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: frogjerk

Simply the number of Tea Partiers who home school should suggest they will be better informed and educated than the average person.


24 posted on 10/17/2013 6:07:13 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Beave Meister

“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party.”

No, nitwit, because you spend all your time with other extreme leftist profs who are as intellectually close-minded as you are.

There is -0- diversity of thought in universities, as this one anecdote demonstrates.


25 posted on 10/17/2013 6:12:55 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: i_robot73

These kinds of data sets are way too easy to misinterpret or over-interpret, IMHO.


26 posted on 10/17/2013 6:13:30 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: LS

Homeschooling evangelicals have 2 to 5 times the number of children that liberals do, keep them out of the indoctrination centers, and those children are 14 times more likely to be politically active than the average population.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 6:15:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Beave Meister
In the grand scheme of things, the natural sciences are not very important. Regardless, I'm happy to hear that Tea Partiers beat liberals in any category of knowledge.

What is important, in the grand scheme of things, is religion and virtue, and I can guarantee you that Tea Partiers are far ahead of the Marxists and libertines, in this category.

28 posted on 10/17/2013 6:21:36 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Beave Meister
Every lefty that I have ever met and spoken with always believes that he/she is smarter, better, more superior than others. -by others I mean different from those holding the beliefs

They are racist, sexist, classist etc. and enjoy hanging around the weak willed so they can prattle on about how lucky everyone is that he/she is there to guide them.

29 posted on 10/17/2013 6:21:54 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: COBOL2Java
In November 1972 after the election, the film critic and self-anointed pundit Pauline Kael uttered this remark (taken down for posterity by her secretary):

"I just can't understand how Nixon won like that (i.e. in a 49-state landslide). I don't know a single person who voted for him."

Thus proving for all time that Upper Eastsiders live in an impenetrable bubble.

30 posted on 10/17/2013 6:25:02 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: Hardraade

Very few of these people would even make it to Mensa.”

Was invited to participate in a bridge tournament with a group of people who are members of Mensa. Talk about a joke. If these people are the ones you must emulate to be considered “intelligent”, I think I’ll pass and just stick with my TEA Party friends and associates.


31 posted on 10/17/2013 6:31:17 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: MrB
Indeed. The left's "mascot" base is something they really should be proud of.

Can the good professor explain why, after years of spending trillions of dollars on poverty and education, we don't have millions of Rockefellers and Einsteins? I challenge the professor on any claim to higher moral ground as well.

32 posted on 10/17/2013 6:33:18 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Grams A

Lol. Yep. There’s a remarkable number of stupid, “intelligent” people.

But this lot mostly don’t even make it there, I think.


33 posted on 10/17/2013 6:35:57 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: trubolotta

I did challenge a lib a while back on the effects of liberal policy.

She was getting all morally superior about helping the poor, etc.

I asked her what she thought of the fact that all that “help” has succeeded in totally destroying the black family structure.

You would have thought I’d physically slapped her from her reaction. In a way, I did - I kicked the legs out from under her tenuous grasp on righteousness.


34 posted on 10/17/2013 6:37:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: central_va

If you followed the discussion these luminaries had, it quickly boiled down to how to cook the data so they would read differently.

These are just apes.


35 posted on 10/17/2013 6:39:16 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Beave Meister

“All my impressions come from watching cable tv”
***********************

That should be an indictment on cable news.


36 posted on 10/17/2013 6:40:52 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Beave Meister
I was TEA Party back when "TEA Party" meant "...shoot all Gummint Revenuers on sight."

Mensa says my I.Q. is "160-plus," and I'd be willing to bet that fewer than one "professor" out of every thousand even approaches that uniquely rarefied atmosphere.

How many professors do you know who were ever provable geniuses?

I thought so.

;-\

37 posted on 10/17/2013 6:42:54 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Da amber lamps. Bring dem..." LMFFAO!!!!)
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To: MrB
You would have thought I’d physically slapped her from her reaction.

That's about the effect of shaking them to reality. For all their moral superiority, they sure have made things much better./s

38 posted on 10/17/2013 6:46:02 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Beave Meister

This survey is a keeper.


39 posted on 10/17/2013 6:47:51 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: oh8eleven

Maybe if the professor and his colleagues stopped treating Tea Party members as demons, he’d get to know a few of them.


40 posted on 10/17/2013 6:49:18 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: SAJ

That was it! Thanks!


41 posted on 10/17/2013 7:02:07 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Beave Meister
Well, it remains to be seen if in the long haul, this Eli will change his ways or retreat to his ivory tower.


42 posted on 10/17/2013 7:05:37 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
What is important, in the grand scheme of things, is religion and virtue, and I can guarantee you that Tea Partiers are far ahead of the Marxists and libertines, in this category.

It is true. People who are directly connected through prayer, meditation and openness to the Holy Spirit are channels for a higher level of intelligence -- a spring of "living water". On its way through the mind of the faithful to inspire God's purposes, some of the Divine Mind rubs off.

43 posted on 10/17/2013 7:58:10 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Beave Meister

The puzzling part of this is he admitted he made a judgment about the intelligence of Tea Party people from the media- yet he does not seem to be aware that the disturbing things he still believes about the Tea Party also came from the media.


44 posted on 10/17/2013 8:03:22 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: sauropod

check out


45 posted on 10/17/2013 8:09:04 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Beave Meister

This reminds me of a dreck of a study published a few years ago called “conservatism as motivated social cognition” by Kruglanski, et. al.

Except that this prof’s at least dimly aware of his own biases.


46 posted on 10/17/2013 8:12:47 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: popdonnelly
Maybe if the professor and his colleagues stopped treating Tea Party members as demons, he’d get to know a few of them.

I have invited intelligent liberals with more degrees than a thermometer to meeting, and they won't go. One noted he might if no one in his social circles didn't find out.

Cowards, one and all....

They would have to challenge their epistemological basis when they find everyone in the room has as many degree's, kids, wealth etc and they have more in common than they ever flippin' believed....

47 posted on 10/17/2013 8:14:34 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Hardraade

The hostess for this group had a doctorate degree in something or other and introduced herself as Dr. Lang. Guess her parent’s didn’t give her a first name. She had two cats, one draped across the top of the door frame and another one on the fireplace hearth. I have cats but I have never seen anything like hers. After a couple of hours I remarked how well behaved they were because they hadn’t so much as twitched their tail the entire evening. Everyone in the room laughed. She had had them stuffed after they died so they would be with her forever. Just bizarre.


48 posted on 10/17/2013 9:52:38 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: MrB

BTW, someone quoted to me yesterday Lenin’s dictum that “Give us a child for 8 years and we’ll have him for life.” Didn’t seem to work out with the USSR, which had those commie kids a helluva lot longer than eight years.


49 posted on 10/17/2013 10:49:12 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

Actually it did work out, but the system came to its inevitable implosion.

The US is following the path, but a fair bit to go before the implosion....


50 posted on 10/17/2013 10:50:38 AM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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