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French bill would criminalize paying for sex
France 24 ^ | 09/18/2013 | Tony Todd

Posted on 09/18/2013 9:40:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Proposed legislation may outlaw paying for sex in France while giving prostitutes who are victims of sexual violence easier access to legal support. The preliminary text does not enjoy universal support. …

“We are going to turn the law on its head,” said Socialist Member of Parliament Maud Olivier, who authored a report that will be the basis of the bill. “Prostitutes are victims and should not be treated like criminals.”

“The law is intended to reduce violence towards prostitutes and to get it into the general mindset that paying for sexual services is not acceptable. We need to destroy the idea that prostitution is a happy trade,” she said, adding that of the estimated 40,000 sex workers in France, 80 percent are women and 90 percent are immigrants. …

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


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KEYWORDS: france; moralabsolutes; prostitution; sex; socialists; vivaladifference
Seems counterintuitive, right? Socialists against prostitution.
1 posted on 09/18/2013 9:40:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The French outlawed marriage?


2 posted on 09/18/2013 9:47:32 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: upsdriver

France got around to banning incest in 2010 or so.

Catching up to civilization are they?


3 posted on 09/18/2013 9:48:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Olog-hai

Sounds like the prostitutes won the election and are going to get revenge on their customers.

Not a good business plan.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 9:49:19 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Olog-hai

Wow, that’s sure going to cut into their Way Expensive Flowers and Unbelievably Incredibly Expensive Dinners business.

Isn’t that “paying for sex?”


5 posted on 09/18/2013 9:49:34 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Olog-hai

Tomorrow, half of the female French workforce will be fired.


6 posted on 09/18/2013 9:50:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Olog-hai

Weird way to phrase things.

They want to shame the customer, but not the hooker.

S&M?


7 posted on 09/18/2013 9:51:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Olog-hai

Sacre Bleu, Quelle est suivant ?


8 posted on 09/18/2013 9:52:21 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Olog-hai

Free sex?


9 posted on 09/18/2013 9:52:26 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Olog-hai

Marriage is paying for sex; on an installment plan.


10 posted on 09/18/2013 9:53:22 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: Olog-hai

11 posted on 09/18/2013 9:53:25 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Olog-hai

The problem here is that even if the majority of prostitutes start out as child or teenage victims, they turn into adults who just might make false accusations to turn a buck...or a Franc, or a Euro or whatever. Especially the percentage which uses intoxication to deal with the life they are in.

And if there is no penalty for the prostitute then there is also no leverage to force them into rehabilitave treatment.

Experementation with laws exactly paralleling this have produced dismal results in Sweden, where child brothels in Muslim no police zones have mushroomed even as adult prostitution amongst the native population decreased.

There are always simple, easy to understand, wrong answers to life’s problems and this is a prime example.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 9:53:41 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Olog-hai

We all pay for sex, in one way or another.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 9:53:45 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: JennysCool

Woo Hoo


14 posted on 09/18/2013 9:53:57 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Olog-hai

15 posted on 09/18/2013 9:58:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Olog-hai

“....paying for sexual services is not acceptable.”

.
Tell that to the prostitutes.


16 posted on 09/18/2013 10:00:39 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I refuse to say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Olog-hai; a fool in paradise

17 posted on 09/18/2013 10:01:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Olog-hai

Well there goes half the French “gross” domestic product.


18 posted on 09/18/2013 10:05:01 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: Olog-hai

They should criminalize community property and alimony.


19 posted on 09/18/2013 10:08:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Olog-hai

This is great, what I have always wanted. Put the Johns in jail.


20 posted on 09/18/2013 11:50:02 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: JennysCool

No, it’s not. Being tied up and beaten and urinated on, and having money in an envelope afterwards is.


21 posted on 09/18/2013 11:51:59 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: MrEdd

Put the customers in jail.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 11:53:01 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: MrEdd

>>The problem here is that even if the majority of prostitutes start out as child or teenage victims, they turn into adults who just might make false accusations to turn a buck...or a Franc, or a Euro or whatever. Especially the percentage which uses intoxication to deal with the life they are in.

There are so many potential problems with this kind of law. Which is why in Canada, the law was, and I assume still is, prostitution per se is not illegal. Soliciting is; running a house of prostitution is (short time hotels get hit with that) , but a privately made arrangement for sex for money where no public solicitation by either party has been made, is not. Of course, if minors are involved, all kinds of other charges kick in, like contributing to the delinquency of a minor, illegal sexual activity, etc.. etc.


23 posted on 09/19/2013 1:12:56 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Olog-hai

Prostitution - once read a description:

``Ya got it. Ya sell it. Ya still got it.’’


24 posted on 09/19/2013 2:50:33 AM PDT by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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90 percent are immigrants

Doing the work French whores won't do.

25 posted on 09/19/2013 3:01:27 AM PDT by Reeses
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Damn, that Dominique Strauss-Kahn just can’t get a break.


26 posted on 09/19/2013 5:07:48 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Olog-hai
French bill would criminalize paying for sex

Are they actually trying to depopulate liberals?!? Go France!

27 posted on 09/19/2013 5:21:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Olog-hai

Who takes these silly socialists seriously anymore. Just recently here in the US several states voted to decriminalize marijuana use based on the claims that by legalizing an activity it would take the violence and organized crime out of it.

And now with the oldest profession in the world they want to criminalize the “offender”.


28 posted on 09/19/2013 5:29:00 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: MrEdd
Experementation with laws exactly paralleling this have produced dismal results in Sweden, where child brothels in Muslim no police zones have mushroomed even as adult prostitution amongst the native population decreased.

I can find no sources for this claim you make, can you supply any sources please?

I strongly support the laws in Sweden that have greatly reduced prostitution and human trafficking/pimping. So I am most interested in finding out if what you claim is true or not.

29 posted on 09/19/2013 3:58:01 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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