Book Interview: Mark Musser's Nazi Oaks

The Mind Renewed ^ | 9/13/13 | Dr. Julian Charles

[Olympiad Fisherman]

We are joined by Pastor Mark Musser, author of the book Nazi Oaks : The Green Sacrifice of the Judeo-Christian Worldview in the Holocaust, who explains how the worldview of the Nazis, which led to the abominations of the Holocaust, was deeply-rooted in the ecological undercurrents of the anti-Semitism, anti-theism, and anti-humanism of the early German green movement. Gathering together the strands of a bewildering number of influences, from Romanticism to existentialism and Social Darwinism, this ecology served to rationalise (in their eyes) and invigorate their racist and eugenicist 'purification' of land and people.

[allendale]

Neo pagan ecologists are more dangerous to the world than al Queda. If they come to power ( and they are getting close) there will be miserable poverty on a monumental scale, overt killing within populations, wars and ultimately terrible pollution.

[hosepipe]

We are joined by Pastor Mark Musser, author of the book Nazi Oaks : The Green Sacrifice of the Judeo-Christian Worldview in the Holocaust, who explains how the worldview of the Nazis, which led to the abominations of the Holocaust, was deeply-rooted in the ecological undercurrents of the anti-Semitism, anti-theism, and anti-humanism of the early German green movement. Gathering together the strands of a bewildering number of influences, from Romanticism to existentialism and Social Darwinism, this ecology served to rationalise (in their eyes) and invigorate their racist and eugenicist 'purification' of land and people.

Your Point.. You must have a point?...

Seems you do not like Nazi's and Nazism.... WELL DUUUUUGH!..
Big words and conflated memes are quite lame.. i.e. can be meaningless..

[Steve_Seattle]

Thank you for the post. I just ordered the book because it seemed to contain a very interesting and plausible hypothesis.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Your Point.. You must have a point?..."

What is YOUR point? The author of the book is doing more than criticizing Nazism, he is making a connection between Nazi ecological ideology and contemporary environmental ideology. I think it's an interesting idea, and will read the book. Of course, Nazism will NOT ever repeat in all its particulars, but murderous totalitarian ideologies can assume new forms in new social contexts.

[Olympiad Fisherman]

They already are in power, and have already done much untold damage to our economy, and have banished millions in the Third World to premature deaths - thanks largely to banning DDT. The high cost of just about everything these days has its roots in the green movement.

[Olympiad Fisherman]

Anyone who read “Nazi Oaks” will never look at National Socialism the same. Neither will they be able to look at the modern environmental movement the same either.

[Steve_Seattle]

Dan Brown’s most recent novel (forgive me for forgetting the title) seems to be paving the way for making intellectually respectable the idea of involuntary sterilization of masses of humanity, and - predictably - those targeted masses are largely those populating the Third World. The desire for a massive reduction of the human population is an often-stated goal of the environmental movement, and I’ve often wondered how far they are willing to go in pursuit of that goal.

[dfwgator]

The desire for a massive reduction of the human population is an often-stated goal of the environmental movement, and I’ve often wondered how far they are willing to go in pursuit of that goal.

When they start offing themselves and start taking one for the team, then I might be impressed.

[Olympiad Fisherman]

They have other people in mind for that ...

[Steve_Seattle]

Our national political leadership, news media, and entertainment industry - as well as much of our corporate culture - are now mostly pagan. Our situation reminds me of the Weimar Republic, kind of a Petri dish of developing naturalistic paganism, a mix of hedonism, nihilism, anti-Christianity, anti-Judaism, affluence coupled with wide scale unemployment, social anomie, and anger. As I said in an earlier post, the Nazi experience will never be repeated in its particulars, but a growing paganism bodes ill for the country. 20th century paganism - in all its competing forms - was a vast experiment in mass murder. Can it happen in the USA? I no longer can rule it out.

[Steve_Seattle]

"When they start offing themselves and start taking one for the team, then I might be impressed."

They will not "off" themselves, of course, but that does not mean they might be willing to "off" others, and they will not worry about hypocrisy or consistency, which they regard as the hobgoblin of small minds.

[Olympiad Fisherman]

You have explained the situation at hand very well.

[hosepipe]

Of course, Nazism will NOT ever repeat in all its particulars, but murderous totalitarian ideologies can assume new forms in new social contexts.
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Nazism is a version of Socialism.. as is Fascism and Communism..
Mob Rule by mobsters as are all democracy's.. and Monarchy as well..

They are ALL despotism.. not readily admitted by ANY democracy..
a rose is a rose by any other name..

ALL democracy's are on the cusp of despotism..
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Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx
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** Note; a fact missed or obscured or even hidden by all European democracy's and yes... Canada.. Mexico has always been Mob Rule by mobsters.. you know democracy..