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Well, I sure screwed it up today… (Update at #250)
9/13/13 | trussell

Posted on 09/13/2013 8:55:51 PM PDT by trussell

Well, I sure screwed it up today… I went to sit down on a chair that wasn't there and fell, now I can't move my legs and the ER released me saying nothing is broke so there is nothing they can/will do. No brace, no chair, no crutches, nothing. The doctor didn't even touch me, tell me to wiggle toes, take my temp, listen to my heart, nothing...just a CT scan and then let me go. I couldn't even get in the car without a nurse, 2 cops and a citizen who offered to help. I don't know what to do now, I can't walk :'(

This is of course concerning to me since I have a fused spine and ongoing issues. I'm calling my pain management doc to see if he wants to do something different.


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Still waiting on a return call from my doc. I fell shortly after 4 pm today, ambulance personnel put me on a backboard with a cervical collar (neck brace). I spent 2 hours on a gurney, in the hospital hallway like that until the doc agreed to sign off and get me off the board. Then he ordered a CT scan and didn't even talk to me. 5 hours total, never put in a room, had the CT and put back in the hallway. Begged for some icechips because I was so dry it hurt...they refused saying the test had to be done and the results received before I could have a drink.

Doc comes back and says "CT scan shows nothing wrong so you are being released". I said "what about my legs, I can't move them, I can't stand" He said "The scan shows nothing wrong we can't and wont keep you, and we will help you out" I asked what was I suppose to do when we got home since nobody can carry me, and they didn't answer. I don't understand...why would he not check my reflexes, my pulse, ANYTHING?

1 posted on 09/13/2013 8:55:51 PM PDT by trussell
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To: All; 4woodenboats; abletruth; Accountable One; Aeronaut; AKA Elena; Alamo-Girl; AlGone2001; ...

Please, pray for me to be able to use my legs again...this is scary!


2 posted on 09/13/2013 8:57:35 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Prayers, lifting you up

And I am so sorry, that obamaCare is in full swing.
(Don’t blame the docs)


3 posted on 09/13/2013 8:58:47 PM PDT by svcw (We do not fear death, as much as we fear no one will remember us.)
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To: trussell

Is this your first time to that ER?


4 posted on 09/13/2013 9:00:47 PM PDT by Nota particle
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To: trussell

Prayers up!

And HUGZ


5 posted on 09/13/2013 9:01:35 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: trussell

Go to a chiropractor.


6 posted on 09/13/2013 9:01:35 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: trussell

How near is the next closest ER?


7 posted on 09/13/2013 9:01:57 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: trussell

Maybe you really are fine and don’t know it yet. Just need to weight until the muscle heals? I got hit once during a football game and couldn’t move for awhile either. I was nailed right at the base of the back. Whatever the case, prayers up.


8 posted on 09/13/2013 9:02:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: trussell

I can’t imagine any of our local hospitals discharging under these circumstances.


9 posted on 09/13/2013 9:02:46 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Correction: Go to a chiropractor, but when he tells you to come back weekly, ignore that part. One visit should do the job.


10 posted on 09/13/2013 9:02:55 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: trussell

Yikes....do you have family you can call ? Kids or something ?


11 posted on 09/13/2013 9:03:01 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: trussell

Wow, my last post was pretty goofed up. Weight = wait, etc.


12 posted on 09/13/2013 9:03:13 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: trussell
I can relate -- had a strange thing happen couple years ago when over a couple of days, I suddenly couldn't walk or even stand up. Doctors couldn't figure out what the problem was either, but thank God, after a couple weeks I was able to walk stand hop etcetera, for no apparent reason.

It is scary. God willing you'll be back on your feet again soon -- we're all of us here praying for you.

13 posted on 09/13/2013 9:03:15 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: trussell

Praying for you.


14 posted on 09/13/2013 9:04:37 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: trussell

Nineteen more days to Obamacare! Has your Navigator visited you yet?!


15 posted on 09/13/2013 9:04:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: trussell
You may have damaged your nerves.

Ask your GP if a nerve conductivity test is in order. They'll take readings of your 'traffic' and see if there's any disruptions. Might be a painful test, but my guess is neurological if nothing else has been found.

16 posted on 09/13/2013 9:05:20 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Really? Chiropractors can sooth many ailments, but paralysis, I don’t think so.


17 posted on 09/13/2013 9:05:25 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

P.S. CT scans is insufficient. MRI is in order too, and they want to do that first before they move on to nerve conductivity test.


18 posted on 09/13/2013 9:08:47 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: trussell

Sounds like they think it was temporary nerve paralysis (trauma induced). If so, they should have told you.

Get a good lawyer.


19 posted on 09/13/2013 9:09:27 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: trussell

I cant imagine a hospital discharging you under those conditions. no diagnosis provided. no treatment or even precautionary measures reported?

I bet your doctor tells you he wants you taken (carefully taken) to another hospital for a better evaluation .

if your doctor wants you carried in a stretcher, let him have his way, because there is just a very very small but still real chance that there could have been some nerve damage and your doctor may want you extra-protected from any further possible harm

but one way or another...if it were me and I were still immobilized and had not received a meaningful diagnosis and some sort of care or treatment plan, I would definitely seek those things out

meanwhile you definitely do have all our prayers.
(I had both legs mostly immobilized once and barely could make it to hospital, but fortunately it was something minor and went away. SIMPLE PRUDENCE says you cannot count on that, there is always a small chance of something seriously hurt inside you .... so please get a good medical workup

it will at the very least put your mind at ease
which is worth a whole lot, too

blessings,


20 posted on 09/13/2013 9:10:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Er)
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To: trussell

Prayers on the way my friend. May God heal you quickly!


21 posted on 09/13/2013 9:10:26 PM PDT by Ajnin (Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.)
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22 posted on 09/13/2013 9:11:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trussell

Chiro, not neuro.

The latter are arrogant SOB’s who will make sure you are VERY impressed with the glossy teak scroll squares on their wall, and the white coat.

In the end they can’t help you, and you wa$$$$ted lot$ of time and money.

My ex-boss was a neuro was an idiot and couldn’t program a VCR after a power outtage —sounds made up, right?

The neuro LOATHED chiros, but GUESS WHO ended up actually helping me (and cheaply, what’s more) after MY injury..?

THE NEURO CANNOT HELP YOU.


23 posted on 09/13/2013 9:11:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: umgud; trussell
I can’t imagine any of our local hospitals discharging under these circumstances.

I can't either! Our hospital has some amazingly caring people; if you said you couldn't walk or, really, had any kind of discomfort, they'd probably keep you overnight!

24 posted on 09/13/2013 9:11:28 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: trussell

Do whatever you have to do to get a second opinion, go to another hospital, whatever. A few years ago hubby was in a horse wreck, local ER doc said he only had a couple of cracked ribs, would not admit him, released him. Hubby was having trouble breathing and I was quite concerned, as was my daughter who is a nurse. We took him to another town and ER doc there said he had numerous broken ribs and one had punctured his lung...that hospital transferred him to nearest trauma center where he had to have chest tube, a week in ICU...and lots, lots more care over weeks and months...

My experience is ER doctors are luck of the draw, and the deck is stacked against getting a good one- seems a lot of doctors don’t want to work ER.


25 posted on 09/13/2013 9:12:33 PM PDT by Tammy8 ( ~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: trussell

Yes: You did screw up, if you failed to say you were “Jose” from “Mexico” and did not speak English, did not have any papers, and did not have any insurance.

If you had, you would likely have had gold-plated attention at the ER, as well as a cheer-up call from Janet Napolitano. As it is, you were treated as what you are: An undesirable (i.e., white male).

On a more serious note: Prayers for you. Your condition is no laughing matter. Please get a second opinion.


26 posted on 09/13/2013 9:12:52 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: trussell

best thoughts and best prayers....


27 posted on 09/13/2013 9:13:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Nota particle

I think I may have been there once before. I had several things happen all at once a bit more than a year ago. I spent a week in the ICU with clots in both lungs had to have a hysterectomy and then back surgery. It’s my first time at the ER, but not my first time at the hospital.


28 posted on 09/13/2013 9:13:35 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I can’t go to a chiro, I’m fused...I can’t get popped anymore


29 posted on 09/13/2013 9:14:14 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

I have had similar ER experiences. My advice? Go to another ER. Of course it’s friday night and you can’t get your GP for several days... that seems to be how it goes.

You go another hospital... after they do the exam and say that they’ll release you, you turn to your friend/relative/wife and you say, “guess this one will have to go to the lawyer.”

MAKE SURE that a nurse overhears you.

I once screamed in a waiting room at the top of my lungs that if they released my son, and if anything happened to that kid within the next 72 hours, I was going to OWN that doctor, the hospital, the board of directors, etc.

A nurse overheard me and my son was immediately transported via ambulance to a pediatric hospital and admitted for five days for a heart issue.


30 posted on 09/13/2013 9:14:38 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Vermont Lt

About 25 miles, but I can’t go to 2 ERs in the same day or my insurance won’t cover it...unless my doc recommends it


31 posted on 09/13/2013 9:15:01 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

(I have a spinal fusion as well, so I get why this is concerning. That hardware and scar tissue can do anything.)


32 posted on 09/13/2013 9:15:21 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: trussell

I will pray for you but I think it’s going to come back on its own (God may speed it up).


33 posted on 09/13/2013 9:16:16 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: umgud

That was my thought too...why would they release me when I couldn’t move my own legs? The doc’s attitude is “so what...we’ll get you in the car, but then you’re on your own”


34 posted on 09/13/2013 9:16:24 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: LongWayHome

My 13 year old son is in the home, my daughter is nearby, but can’t stay with me


35 posted on 09/13/2013 9:17:07 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Have already had the nerve conductivity test...I have permanent nerve damage from them waiting too long to correct my spine damage. I had sciatica, a bulged disc and major pain. They made me wait nearly 2 years for the surgery to fuse. Now, I’m worse than I was before the surgery.

...and YES, it was extremely painful!


36 posted on 09/13/2013 9:19:42 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: gaijin
the neuro doctor can help you if the problem is neurological....

I don't think chiropractic is all that....it may be that the psychological affect of going to a hands on practitioner has a big impact on a person's well being...

37 posted on 09/13/2013 9:20:35 PM PDT by cherry
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To: doc1019

They claim it is a Lumbar strain. I said “that doesn’t explain why I can’t lift my legs!


38 posted on 09/13/2013 9:21:07 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Do you have feeling in your legs?


39 posted on 09/13/2013 9:22:24 PM PDT by SouthernClaire
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To: trussell

I have a 12 level fusion and I’m getting ready to go to the chiro next week.

It’s important to interview the chiropractor first. They MUST understand that they can’t do rotational adjustments. But they can use other techniques. (Such as the Activator)

Ribs can also get dislocated and be pushed back into place after a fusion.


40 posted on 09/13/2013 9:22:52 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: trussell

Someone needs to do an MRI and concentrate on L3, L4 and L5 as these are the 3 that would most likely be involved with no feeling in your legs. I didn’t fall but was having numbness on the left side with hip and knee pain. The MRI showed that I had serious compression on T10, T11 and L1 all the way down to S1. Foot long scar down my back and it was a lamenectomy (SP) that they performed to relieve the compression. A week in the hospital and a couple months rehab. But, it beat the alternative which would have been a hoverround. You need to find a neurosurgeon that will maybe help you. My prayers go out to you.


41 posted on 09/13/2013 9:23:44 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Tammy8
I don't know how people got the idea that medical drs are some kind of robotic computer that knows all, and can figure it all out...

they're human...

"doctoring" is a skill, but also an art...

every dr for the most part does the best he can...he offers what he can....

I'm a big believer in the fact that MOST patients know their own bodies the best...families know their family members the best.....as a long time nurse, you LISTEN to what the pt says.....so your family did absolutely the right thing...you knew something wasn't right and you acted...

42 posted on 09/13/2013 9:28:58 PM PDT by cherry
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To: trussell

Your dealings with the ER sound EXACTLY what my mom had to deal with a couple of months ago. Same EXACT thing.

Taken by ambulance to hospital....put on a gurney to wait for HOURS with NO pain meds. People lined up on gurneys in the hallway. CT scan. Doc says nothing wrong. “Goodbye”.

It was disgusting.

Had to get her ice chips MYSELF. She had to go to the bathroom and I went to the nurse’s station THREE times to get her a potty.

It reminded me so much of what I had to deal with in the UK when I lived there.


43 posted on 09/13/2013 9:29:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: trussell


PRAYERS ASCENDING ON HIGH!



Heavenly Lord, Please Hold Our Dear Friend Trussell In The Shelter Of Your Healing Wings!
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The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: He leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: Thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

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"Riamh nár dhruid ó sbairn lann!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

44 posted on 09/13/2013 9:30:51 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: trussell

trussell, let me pray for you.

“Father, I pray now for our sister trussell. Lord, we ask that her legs would be healed and restored to her. We ask You to put Your hand on her back and heal whatever injury happened when she hit the floor.

“Lord, you know the great struggles our sister has had recently, posted to the prayer list. Lord, we ask that You would intervene in the life of our sister who loves You and serves You. This family needs Your help and Your healing. We ask for You to come into this situation and heal her, heal her pain, and heal her stress. Show Yourself strong in her life.

“Lord, we ask for Your will to be done in trussell’s life. I have read her prayers on other’s behalf. Now, Lord, she needs a miracle herself. We ask for one. Oh, Lord Jesus, show Yourself very strong in her!

“Lord, we thank You for answering our prayers, and healing trussell of this injury. Lord, we thank You and praise You! In Jesus’ name, Amen.”


45 posted on 09/13/2013 9:31:05 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: SouthernClaire

They hurt, I can feel touching, more on the right than the left, I can wiggle the toe on the right, but not the left. I can’t move, turn, shuffle either one of them


46 posted on 09/13/2013 9:31:19 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Marie

My insurance doesn’t cover chiro and my doc said “NO...and I mean NOOOOO”


47 posted on 09/13/2013 9:32:13 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

Lumbar strains, even temporary, would not explain continued lack of mobility in your legs. Please seek another opinion, you might have a problem that could be permanent. Go to another hospital or seek an opinion from another physician.


48 posted on 09/13/2013 9:33:09 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: trussell

Prayers up.


49 posted on 09/13/2013 9:34:22 PM PDT by lysie
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To: trussell

Prayers to you for a speedy recovery. Can you get a second opinion? What sort of medical insurance do you have?


50 posted on 09/13/2013 9:34:37 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Restoration of the Republic)
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