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Republican Hatred for Obamacare Undermined by Republican Hatred for Soccer
New York Magazine ^ | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 09/12/2013 12:07:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway

D.C. United, a Major League Soccer team, is going to be helping to publicize Obamacare's new exchange. Wait, you may be asking — how can this be happening? Earlier this summer, the Obama administration, attempting to copy a Massachusetts campaign to use the Red Sox to publicize Romneycare, floated a plan to enlist the National Football League to raise awareness of the new health care exchanges. In response, Republican leaders sent a threatening letter to the NFL warning it to stay out. And, for good measure, it sent the same letter to all the other major leagues: Major League Baseball, National Basketball Association, National Hockey League, Professional Golf Association, and NASCAR.

Except (and I certainly didn't notice this at the time) the list of leagues the Republicans threatened does not include Major League Soccer — reflecting either the Republicans' failure to realize that Major League Soccer exists, or a principled refusal to recognize soccer as a legitimate sport. I didn't think it was possible to find a way to make Republicans hate soccer more than they already do, but it associating it with Obamacare may just do it.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; jonathanchait; newyorkmagazine; obamacare; randsconcerntrolls; romneycare; soccer; zerocare
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1 posted on 09/12/2013 12:07:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Why do soccer fans around the word riot? Out of sheer boredom.


2 posted on 09/12/2013 12:08:56 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: nickcarraway

Idiots.
That said, MLS is flat, even when they recruit top players. I just watch the US team when they are on.


3 posted on 09/12/2013 12:10:13 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: nickcarraway

Guilty as charged! I am a Republican and I hate soccer.


4 posted on 09/12/2013 12:10:14 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: nickcarraway
D.C. United, a Major League Soccer team

Uhhh. . . Sorry, sir, that's a contradiction in terms. And I like soccer. But this is America, dude. Not that you noticed from your perch in Outer Quichelandia.

5 posted on 09/12/2013 12:11:06 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: nickcarraway
Go Earthquakes!

But seriously, one has to wonder what story Chait was avoiding having to report by writing some drivel about this?

-PJ

6 posted on 09/12/2013 12:11:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: nickcarraway
GOPe:

"use the Red Sox to publicize Romneycare"

Do you get it yet?

7 posted on 09/12/2013 12:12:02 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: darkangel82

The level of play in MLS is miles above where it was, even 10 years ago.


8 posted on 09/12/2013 12:14:23 PM PDT by altsehastiin
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To: nickcarraway

I vote “Meh”


9 posted on 09/12/2013 12:15:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway
Major League Soccer?

Is that like Honest Democrat?

Gutsy Establishment Republican?

10 posted on 09/12/2013 12:15:32 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: nickcarraway
Yerhonor...I submit exhibit 1 as my evidence that I not only don't like soccer because it bores me to tears, but I also think it is pretty much just gay. Exhibit 1:
11 posted on 09/12/2013 12:16:38 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: nickcarraway

Chait’s simply whining because the USA beat his Mexico team on Tuesday.


12 posted on 09/12/2013 12:17:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

I wasn’t aware that Republicans hate soccer, though I suspect they think leftist soccer moms are stupid.


13 posted on 09/12/2013 12:19:50 PM PDT by pallis
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To: nickcarraway

I vote Republican, (see my profile), and I am passionate about football aka soccer. The EPL, Bundesliga, Liga MX, MLS, La Liga, and of course our national teams. Have been for years. Can’t get enough. The loss of Fox Soccer Channel is a real bummer.
Southern Partisan, aka “Mas Futbol”


14 posted on 09/12/2013 12:20:32 PM PDT by Southern Partisan (In NYC you can be fined for spitting on the subway. You can, however, throw-up for free.)
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To: nickcarraway

Soccer requires better conditioning than US football, baseball and basketball.

Hockey and soccer are probably the most demanding sports in the world.


15 posted on 09/12/2013 12:24:26 PM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: nickcarraway

Nothing says excitement like a nil-nil final score.


16 posted on 09/12/2013 12:25:04 PM PDT by AU72
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To: nickcarraway

If the author had cojones..he’d have called it “football” lieke they do everywhere else in the world, instead of soccer but then it would have been very easy to tell that he’s nuts, without having to bother to read a few paragraphs.


17 posted on 09/12/2013 12:28:04 PM PDT by ken5050 (According to Dick Lugar, I'm a "random outlier." Woo Hoo!!!!)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Maybe the mid easterners and africans need to adopt hockey!!!
That’ll be the day.

But they want us to accept islam on the same basis...


18 posted on 09/12/2013 12:29:51 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: 1rudeboy

I was at a bar that had that dull game and the previous week had the fun US women’s 314-0 victory over Mexico. Soccer is for girls because they are the only ones to make it exciting.


19 posted on 09/12/2013 12:31:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Why is our military going to be used as Al Qaeda's air force in Syria?)
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To: nickcarraway

My brother played pro soccer and I don’t like it, still.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 12:32:23 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: nickcarraway

Chait spells his last name wrong. The C is supposed to be an S and the A is supposed to be dropped.


21 posted on 09/12/2013 12:32:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: nickcarraway

What a dipstick.


22 posted on 09/12/2013 12:34:20 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: 1rudeboy

LOL, you may be right. I do think Chait’s simply whining because that’s what he generally does.......


23 posted on 09/12/2013 12:36:22 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Absolutely cannot stand soccer or tennis. Love rugby, golf, track and real football. Monday night’s win by the Houston Texans over San Diego was doubly sweet as it did silence Chris Burman, albeit very late in the game.


24 posted on 09/12/2013 12:38:06 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Darren McCarty
He's the guy that wrote the first "I really, really, really hate Bush" article when it was not racist to hate a President.

A real genius.

25 posted on 09/12/2013 12:38:56 PM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Not enough commercial breaks for you?


26 posted on 09/12/2013 12:38:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AU72

Maybe they should keep changing the rules in order to make it easier to score? It would be the NFL thing to do.


27 posted on 09/12/2013 12:40:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

Does this Chait guy actually get paid for writing this chit?


28 posted on 09/12/2013 12:41:49 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Take out the goalies. With the number of balls on net it would spike the scores to 5-4.


29 posted on 09/12/2013 12:46:30 PM PDT by AU72
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To: nickcarraway

Except (and I certainly didn’t notice this at the time) the list of leagues the Republicans threatened does not include Major League Soccer

There is Major League Soccer?
Who knew.
More importantly, who cares...........


30 posted on 09/12/2013 12:46:53 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: AU72

Ok, so you don’t watch soccer. That’s perfectly cool with me.


31 posted on 09/12/2013 12:47:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway

Soccer by itself is merely a game and as such is not objectionable. What is objectionable is its politicization. It is hoped by the leftists that “International Soccer” will replace the purely American sports of Baseball, Football and Basketball thus showing all that we Americans are tolerant, loving, peaceful and are now officially cosmopolitan. We will belong to the world. When soccer replaces the purely American sports of Football, Basketball and Baseball it will be but one more nail in the coffin of American exceptional-ism.


32 posted on 09/12/2013 12:48:32 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: nickcarraway

I saw a lot of Gladsden flags proudly flying at the recent US match against Mexico.

I love watching soccer, the beautiful game. Although I like American football, I have a very hard time watching 7 minutes of actual football play, played out in three long hours.


33 posted on 09/12/2013 12:50:28 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: wastedyears

“Hockey and soccer are probably the most demanding sports in the world.”

Is there a “Soccerfights.com” website?

;^)


34 posted on 09/12/2013 12:50:59 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: nickcarraway

ObamaCare already is, many things.

One that it will become, is *NOT* “single payer.”

Rather, ObamaCare will establish GROUP HEALTH ‘INSURANCE COVERAGE’, setting aside for now, that ObamaCare will never provide EITHER group nor single, health care.

The GROUPS will be, those associations who arrange for special treatment - yes, that will be un-Constitutional, but one of the GROUPS will be the Congress, and another group will be the Judiciary, and another group will be the Executive, and ... so on for other government departments and administrations at both the federal and state levels, plus labor GROUPS, plus politically-correct GROUPS approved by the Race Hustlers, plus some select corporate GROUPS.

That leaves THE OTHER GROUP, in which the rest of us “fall” and will be immersed in a system of amazingly laborious paperwork ... and poverty of BOTH insurance ‘coverage’ AND actual, good health care service.

The other thing that ObamaCare is, that too many people keep missing, is that ObamaCare IS A MEANS TEST.

It is designed - that means testing - to “help” you with acquiring supplemental payments *to* your premium payments.

*BUT* YOU WILL FALL INTO THE TRAP, of having to comply with THE MEANS TEST, *REGARDLESS* of whether or not you seek supplements.

THE PURPOSE OF THE MEANS TEST, is for the government to acquire information about you, in order to pigeon hole ALL of your financial activities *REGARDLESS* of whether or not an actual financial transaction occurs.

The government - ObamaCare - seeks to know every penny you have and where it is.

That is the overall purpose of ObamaCare - to get at all of your assets and the value of them, to be estimated by the government ... agents.


35 posted on 09/12/2013 12:51:14 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Obadiah

(Gadsden, not gladsden)


36 posted on 09/12/2013 12:54:02 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Belying the fact that football and baseball are trying to expand into other countries. And they probably will, eventually (here's hoping), despite the utter failure of those sports to market themselves abroad.

Baseball and soccer, for example, started in the U.S. around the same time . . . one became an "international" (you use that term in a derogative fashion, for some reason) and the other did not. Suffice it to say, the reason is not "leftist vs. rightist."

37 posted on 09/12/2013 12:56:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway
I am the great-grandson of the immigrant Irish Catholic working-class who settled here in the industrial Northeast.My people were mostly bricklayers and ‘’hod carriers’’ by trade but their children and great-grandchildren advanced into other fields of education and endeavor. What they all had in common (except for myself)was a passion for playing soccer.My two older brothers began playing for a local kids team in our hometown in 1967. My late mother was a ''soccer mom'' forty years before it was hip.
38 posted on 09/12/2013 12:59:31 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: 1rudeboy

One cannot be an Internationalist and a patriot at the same time, it is a logical contradiction. If one loves ones country beyond all others it is then impossible to love other countries in the same manner. That is the derogatory meaning I assigned to “International.” The soccer movement in the U. S. has largely been leftist. It is not merely economics or business, or “a market!”


39 posted on 09/12/2013 1:03:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: nickcarraway
Hate? So, to Mr. Chait, if you do not like something, you hate it? Sounds very much like a liberal way of thinking.

I don't care for soccer, playing or watching. But it doesn't mean I hate, I simply just don't care for it.

40 posted on 09/12/2013 1:06:06 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: altsehastiin
The level of play in MLS is miles above where it was, even 10 years ago.

Although I agree with your statement, the MLS level of play is still 10 years behind other international professional league levels.

In addition, the other international leagues are more of a fast paced, passing, strategic level that makes the game at least some what "exciting" to watch; where as the lazy, slow, nil-nil pace of MLS is simply NOT going to excite your average American sports enthusiast.

I think most Americans would rather watch mens beach volleyball over MLS. I might even suggest that fat naked men playing badminton could get more TV audience than most MLS teams - although I could be slightly exaggerating on the last example.
41 posted on 09/12/2013 1:07:03 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Check out your "leftists."


42 posted on 09/12/2013 1:07:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ExTxMarine

I do agree MLS is the Bud Light of soccer.


43 posted on 09/12/2013 1:09:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Southern Partisan

Aaargh! I just checked FSC and got some brainless sitcom. Terrible time to lose FSC, with the EPL season just starting. I guess they figure they can’t compete with College Game Day. Hopefully it’ll come back after the BCS Championship in Jan 2014.


44 posted on 09/12/2013 1:09:13 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Southern Partisan

I vote Republican, (see my profile), and I am passionate about football aka soccer. The EPL, Bundesliga, Liga MX, MLS, La Liga, and of course our national teams. Have been for years. Can’t get enough. The loss of Fox Soccer Channel is a real bummer.
Southern Partisan, aka “Mas Futbol”


I am very conservative, very patriotic...but follow soccer. Really been following WC 2014 qualifying on line...especially watching the “Minnows”...real underdogs in sports....big US Natl team supporter....Went to many WC ‘94 matches in USA

Absolutely awesome with Dos y Cero performace the other nite. Mexico seems to be letting everyone leave, including their soccer players! I enjoy watching the USA clobber these Third World narco states

I would probably get kicked out of a USA-Mexico soccer match....the “Thats all right, Thats OK, you’ll be mowing my yard someday” chant would probably make the NAFTAites quite whiny


45 posted on 09/12/2013 1:16:08 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (You cannot be conservative while supporting the bankruptcy of your nation)
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To: 1rudeboy

I never said that one could not like a sport as a sport. All your picture demomstrates is that Ameicans are still patriotic and resent Mexicans booing the American soccer team in America. I did say one cannot be an Internationalist and Patriot at the same time as it is a logical contradiction. That was never addressed. I did say those that are seeking to impose the sport on America are leftists hoping its widespread acceptance will replace any sport of American origin and as such became an integral part of the culture. That was never addressed. Soccer is not the most important assault on America; the most important is the assault on our Christian religious heritage, the assault our individualist economic system,the assault on our Republican form of government and the assault on any belief that America is an exceptional nation.


46 posted on 09/12/2013 1:23:10 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I did say one cannot be an Internationalist and Patriot at the same time as it is a logical contradiction.

Precisely your logical failure that I'm addressing: one can cheer for the U.S. national team to perform well on the international stage without falling into the intellectual tarpit that soccer is "leftist," or any other such nonsense.

Furthermore, MLS soccer (of which I am not a fan), is not some leftist conspiracy to take away your belief in God.

47 posted on 09/12/2013 1:31:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I think one of the MAIN differences in soccer, when compared to other teams sports, is the LACK of lots of one-on-one competition during the game. For example:

In baseball, you have pitcher vs. batter.
In football, you have linemen vs linemen and defensive backs vs receivers and ball carrier vs tackler, etc...
In basketball, you have player vs player.

In most MLS soccer games, you have very limited player on player time (it is mostly passing and setting up for passing) - they seem to lay back and wait for a bad pass or a quick opening.

That is why I like international leagues and WC games, you see much more man-on-man pressure challenges and that makes the game more exciting - at least for me. In the other leagues, you see real talent vs talent instead of passing after passing after passing.


48 posted on 09/12/2013 1:36:07 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

I love the Barclay’s Premier League, the MLS is unwatchable.


49 posted on 09/12/2013 1:39:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ax

Nope, EPL is now on NBC Sports Network. 640 on U-Verse and online if your carrier is included.


50 posted on 09/12/2013 1:39:47 PM PDT by Southern Partisan (In NYC you can be fined for spitting on the subway. You can, however, throw-up for free.)
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