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What to do when a coach sends your kid an e-mail like this....? (Vanity)
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Posted on 09/07/2013 1:13:55 AM PDT by MacMattico

I know this isn't Syria or anything of that much importance to anybody but my family. But as a Conservative I think it's important to talk about kids and how they're treated and what we expect of them.

Honor roll niece is a member of an undefeated team in her sport. We go to watch her games, she is in HS and has been a Varsity starter for 3 years since 8th grade and was made a Captain this year.

After she started seeing a little less playing time, she respectfully (I watched her do this) asked if there was something she needed to do to improve, a certain skill she needed to work on. Nope, everything was fine, just getting some other girls some playing time against the "easier" teams.

Then suddenly an e-mail from the coach saying she lacked in every skill area, listing all skill areas, performed horribly in tryouts, has been a negative for the team as a whole (scoring wise not attitude or effort), and more negative comments, I can't remember them all, the e-mail was on my sister's phone as we were in the parking lot going to nieces game. Obviously the coach sent it out during the school day, so much for teaching! I asked if she (niece) had seen the e-mail, or if the coach had said something. Not that my sister knew of. So we approached the field thinking niece would be unhappy and on the bench. We got there just as the game was starting and niece is in there, starting. Plays 80% of the game and contributes much. We read the e-mail again. All we can figure out is this coach went off because niece asked "how can I improve" as if questioning the coaches coaching ability. My sister says she needs to think about what she's going to do, and doesn't even want to show her daughter the e-mail it's so negative. The coach also plays favorites and likes to have their ass kissed. Niece is friendly and good at the sport so has been able to avoid having to ass kiss or hang out with only certain girls.


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Niece loves the sport and would be devastated by the e-mail. But why even send the e-mail when she's still starting, contributing and happy? Why put it in writing for that matter? My sister thinks the e-mail might be directed more at her (the mother) because she voiced some concerns about the program that a group of parents had brought up, and my sister has a big mouth. But they were legitimate concerns. But even if coach is looking to some how "leave a paper trail" as to why niece gets cut next year (may not be needed as much) stats don't lie and they!re in the paper!
1 posted on 09/07/2013 1:13:55 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Report it to as many authorities as you can. Contact the principal, superintendent, the school board, go through the entire school district if you have to. Bring this to their attention that they have people they have entrusted with roles of authority and significant influence over their kids who have not mentally and emotionally matured past the age of 13. Definitely not something you can let slide.


2 posted on 09/07/2013 1:30:09 AM PDT by freedom46and2
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To: MacMattico

Don’t tell or involve the niece. You are probably correct that this is about your loud sister, not the niece. Talk to the athletic director or principal. Nobody has a right to playing time, don’t even think that. Parents and students do have a right to expect professional behavior from teachers/coaches.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 1:30:30 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: MacMattico

I would probably pull her off that team. There is no,point in playing for a contentious coach, as he will be less interested in seeing her improve and be more interested in just being critical of her performance. It’s not, imo, a relationship that can improve. I would be inclined in getting her into something else that she can enjoy, or, put her in her chosen sport, but outside the school.

Besides, if she’s that bad, from the coach’s POV, he won’t miss her. He was also incredibly stupid to have sent anything less than the most professional of emails because it is now documented.


4 posted on 09/07/2013 1:31:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: freedom46and2

Is the coach sexually abusing the girls?


5 posted on 09/07/2013 1:34:30 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: MacMattico

You got it in one - legitimate concerns or not your sister has made the coach feel like he is under attack. I would say leave it alone and let the kids playing speak for itself - tell her to double her efforts to impress!


6 posted on 09/07/2013 1:35:40 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: MacMattico

I’m not sure your characterization of his email is accurate.


7 posted on 09/07/2013 1:43:48 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: MacMattico
I check and watch for some kind of substance abuse or other problems in your nieces life. There might be a reason she is off her game.

Or may be the coach is the problem. But I have seen many parents write of their children's troubles by trying to blame some one else.

8 posted on 09/07/2013 1:54:00 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: MacMattico

Is the coach named Barry Switzer?


9 posted on 09/07/2013 1:54:16 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: iowamark
My niece definitely knows she doesn't have a right to playing time. When her playing time became a little less, she just asked if she was doing something wrong (to improve)and was told no. Tonight's game she played well, and was proud of herself. And we were happy she was happy. But that e-mail was in the back of my mind.
10 posted on 09/07/2013 1:56:43 AM PDT by MacMattico
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But if she's “off her game” why is she still starting and playing at least 80% of the game? She played more in this game after the e-mail then in the last game.
11 posted on 09/07/2013 2:02:29 AM PDT by MacMattico
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The coach is under pressure to ensure every kid gets a chance to play in the season. It sounds like he removed your niece during a non-critical game so a lesser player got a chance to play.


12 posted on 09/07/2013 2:09:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: sunrise_sunset
I'd post the whole e-mail if I could get it from my sister, but I don't think she'll give it to me. The last I spoke with her, she was going to let it go for a while and see if more e-mails pop up and see if daughter has been spoken to by the coach, but she didn't think she had.
13 posted on 09/07/2013 2:09:41 AM PDT by MacMattico
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At this point, I’d let it go. Your niece is back to getting more time and she’s happy. Just chalk it up to the coach having a bad day at this point.


14 posted on 09/07/2013 2:14:08 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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That’s the weird thing— unless my sister shows her daughter the e-mail, I don’t think niece has ever been made aware of any major issues and doesn’t dislike the coach. She still starts and gets a lot of playing time. What crossed my mind was what kind of e-mail is sent to those that don’t play all that much? Niece loves the sport.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 2:15:29 AM PDT by MacMattico
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Tell your sister to shut up. You stay out of it and let the coach do his job. If your niece is being treated unfairly, it is a good lesson to learn. Life is not fair and it will never be. For the rest of her life, hundreds if not thousands of situations will be unfair in work, relationships, and friendships.

What does it matter if the coach was blowing off a little steam? It is sue happy, big mouth parents that are making the coach’s job impossible. Comments stating the coach should never left a paper trail inflame my sensibilities. The reason he left the paper trail is because you are thinking of destroying his life since your niece is getting a little less playing time. Every parents is looking for leverage to crush him, his family, destroy his career, and any good will he feels toward the kids he coaches / teaches.

Now multiply your busy body loud mouth sister times 20. When I was young if a teacher sent a note home saying I misbehaved, I was punished. Nowadays, that same note has the parent running to the principle office to punish the teacher. It is impossible to be a good educator in today’s society and we are raising a group of weaklings.

If you want to do your niece a favor. Tell her to do her best and if that is not good enough, it is not good enough. That life is not fair and that there will always be setbacks. To stop asking for a fair shake in life. Life is compromise.

If she wants something, create it. If she fails, pick her butt off the ground and try again. Not to depend on anyone for her well being. Her destiny is hers if she takes charge, if she depends on others to be happy she will never be. To teach her kids to be strong.


16 posted on 09/07/2013 2:17:06 AM PDT by BushCountry (Obama: The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: NoLibZone
I’m pretty sure that’s not the case, and there’s a reason that’s not the case, but it would be obvious who this person was if some one knew them on FR so I’m not going to say why.
17 posted on 09/07/2013 2:18:34 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I agree with you that, even if your sister took a stripe off him, he shouldn’t have sent that email. At the very least, to the wrong person, he’s opened up himself to litigation issues and being a liability to the school. That is bad form on his part.

If your niece seems largely unaffected, she probably doesn’t know about it. IMO, it is best to leave it as no real harm was done beyond bickering between two adults.

Just keep tabs on the niece to see if there are further problems.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 2:21:24 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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The coach also plays favorites and likes to have their ass kissed. Niece is friendly and good at the sport so has been able to avoid having to ass kiss or hang out with only certain girls.

Maybe the coach wants more than her ass kissed, if you get my drift.

19 posted on 09/07/2013 2:21:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

It’s more likely that he wanted to allow players, who are bench warmers, a chance to perform. It was likely a game that wouldn’t affect his statistics much, which allows him to take better players out and put in lesser players.

In todays education system, if a coach doesn’t play everybody sometime during the season, it can cost him his job.

Unless there is more information than you have presented, that’s probably all it was.


20 posted on 09/07/2013 2:31:34 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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