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Tebow refused to change position for interested NFL team, according to Peter King
Sports Illustrated ^ | 9/5/13 | John Otano

Posted on 09/06/2013 7:56:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg

Tim Tebow, after being cut by the New England Patriots last week, has refused to change positions after a NFL team expressed interest in him, SI’s Peter King reported on NBC’s 2013 NFL Kickoff show.

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Tebow also said he will be in “relentless pursuit” of continuing his dream of being an NFL quarterback.

Whe I was 5 I was relentless in my pursuit of being Miss America. But sooner or later reality sets in and you have to come back to Earth.

1 posted on 09/06/2013 7:56:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
Especially if you're a guy.

(Sorry ... couldn't resist)

2 posted on 09/06/2013 7:59:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: DoodleDawg

Pride goes before the fall. I hope he makes it (he is better than at least half the ones out there), but in the end he can either change or not play and sell cars or something.


3 posted on 09/06/2013 8:07:37 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: DoodleDawg

Tim, honestly now. I know you insist you’re a QB, but humor us and just try being a TE or a RB.


4 posted on 09/06/2013 8:19:28 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Good for you Tim.

Silly wagging tongues will wag as those with principle and determination will succeed.

5 posted on 09/06/2013 8:21:07 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: DoodleDawg

I wonder if they wanted him to play the “gay, atheist, cross-dressing position on the team”?


6 posted on 09/06/2013 8:22:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Resolute Conservative
I hope he makes it (he is better than at least half the ones out there)...

I think there may be some exaggeration in the comments coming from Tebow's camp. I don't think he's gotten offers, plural, from Canada. Montreal owns his CFL rights and they've made it clear they aren't interested because it would require a total rebuild of their offense around him. The Arena League may well have come calling, and I can't blame Tebow for not being interested in them. But I still wonder why teams would be approaching him if he was willing to change positions? He's a good, but not overly exceptional, athlete and I don't see how he could step into a position as a tight end or running back and beat out people who have played those positions for years at all levels. I'm not saying players haven't changed positions but not as radically as Tebow would have to.

...but in the end he can either change or not play and sell cars or something.

I think his time in the NFL is definitely at an end. But I also think he has the ability to do more than just peddle cars somewhere.

7 posted on 09/06/2013 8:25:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: knarf

And you think the Miss America isn’t itching just to have its first transgender winner?


8 posted on 09/06/2013 8:27:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I wonder if they wanted him to play the “gay, atheist, cross-dressing position on the team”?

I think they would have been happy if he could only have played the quarterback position on the team.

9 posted on 09/06/2013 8:29:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 9YearLurker
And you think the Miss America isn’t itching just to have its first transgender winner?

Ick. Now Chelsea Manning has something to shoot for...if it ever gets out of prison.

10 posted on 09/06/2013 8:30:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Tebow has shown more on the field than several backup QBs, and even a few starters. See the comments that got Rush Limbaugh into NFL hot water. That’s a big reason why Terrelle Pryor is a starter (what a complete joke), and Tim Tebow is unemployed. Tell me Pryor is a better QB, with a straight face.

I’ve always found Tebow to be annoying, but he is being black-balled by the NFL. His outspoken religiosity is one reason, and the fact that he doesn’t “look” like an “athletic” QB is the other. He isn’t a great NFL prospect by any stretch, but he’s better than a lot of the losers and retreads holding clipboards.


11 posted on 09/06/2013 8:30:23 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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That’s a big reason why Terrelle Pryor is a starter (what a complete joke), and Tim Tebow is unemployed. Tell me Pryor is a better QB, with a straight face.

We're talking about the team who made Jamelephant Russell the first pick, first round. I've given up trying to understand why the Oakland Raiders do anything. I'm just glad that bone-headed decisions do seem to be their norm.

I’ve always found Tebow to be annoying, but he is being black-balled by the NFL. His outspoken religiosity is one reason, and the fact that he doesn’t “look” like an “athletic” QB is the other. He isn’t a great NFL prospect by any stretch, but he’s better than a lot of the losers and retreads holding clipboards.

Some maybe, but not a lot. He just isn't very good at the position. Consensus is that he's third string at best, and nobody is going to invest a lot of money or put up with the overhead of Tebow at third string.

12 posted on 09/06/2013 8:35:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Yep. When he played for Denver he was kind of a one man show.
The rest of the team stood there while he tried to do everything.


13 posted on 09/06/2013 8:35:56 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: 9YearLurker
I never thought of that.

I haven't watched any of those things in over 20 years ... maybe 30.

I hope I'm dead if and when it should occur.

14 posted on 09/06/2013 8:37:34 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: DoodleDawg

The Raiders exist to bring balance to the AFC. If not for them, the weight of the stupidity of the Jets would cause the continent to tip over. That’s my theory.


15 posted on 09/06/2013 8:37:45 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: Zathras
The rest of the team stood there while he tried to do everything.

Or was he successful because the rest of the team took up the slack?

And after Manning's performance of last night I don't think you would find anyone in Denver saying, "Gee, if only Tebow was leading the Broncos...."

16 posted on 09/06/2013 8:38:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: cdcdawg
The Raiders exist to bring balance to the AFC. If not for them, the weight of the stupidity of the Jets would cause the continent to tip over.

I honestly can't think of a better explanation than that.

17 posted on 09/06/2013 8:39:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: cdcdawg

Related to Congress critter Jefferson are ya?


18 posted on 09/06/2013 8:42:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: cdcdawg
Related to Congress critter Hank Johnson from Georgia are ya? ... See, even trying to use his name makes one stupid! Imagine his constituency!
19 posted on 09/06/2013 8:43:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: DoodleDawg

I think he is as good or better than these guys:

Tony Romo, Dallas (Tebow has better playoff record)
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati
Ryan Tannehill, Miami
Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay
Brandon Weeden, Cleveland
Jake Locker, Tennessee
E.J. Manuel, Buffalo
Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville
Geno Smith, NYJ
Terrelle Pryor, Oakland


20 posted on 09/06/2013 8:49:55 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: MHGinTN

In the words of Forrest Gump, “We are not relations”. I think Hank represents his constituents perfectly.


21 posted on 09/06/2013 8:55:00 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg

I don’t think anybody that’s been with 3 teams can be said to be black balled. He’s not a good QB, he can’t read defenses (which will seriously impede him taking another offensive position), his throws are inaccurate, and his throws are inconsistent (consistent inaccuracy can be dealt with, when their landing spot is random there’s not much you can do to fix it). Add all that weakness at the position to the legion of fans that will clamor for him to go in every time the starter throws an incompletion he’s an instant QB controversy and his only upside is jersey sales.


22 posted on 09/06/2013 9:00:42 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: DoodleDawg
I sometimes wonder about very religious people who wear their faith so openly, yet don't seem to grasp some basic concepts. Pride, for instance, this instance.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone; but, I have, in my life, run into too many people who are sitting in the front pews and then behave terribly outside of the church. Now, I'm not saying that he is behaving terribly; but, I am saying that he seems incapable of thinking that God may be challenging him. Perhaps God would like to see a little more humility from this man. And, if he takes a different position on the team, he may find himself being very successful. Instead, he insists on the prime spot on the team.

So, Mr. Tebow (who, btw, I feel has been harrassed for his Christian beliefs), be humble, say yes to an opportunity being presented to you and do that job to the best of your ability. You will be rewarded.

23 posted on 09/06/2013 9:02:18 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: discostu

Yet he would still be better than half the jug heads starting today.


24 posted on 09/06/2013 9:04:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: cdcdawg

Sadly, I’m afraid you’re right! I’ve been to that part of Georgia.


25 posted on 09/06/2013 9:04:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

No. Almost all the guys on your list have a higher completion percentage than him, he is demonstrably NOT better.


26 posted on 09/06/2013 9:05:58 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: discostu

Completions yes, wins no. In the end it is about the W not how you look. Poor Romo, big bad gunslinger but yet cannot seem to win when it counts. Being a winner is more important than being good.

The reason Brady will be the #1 all time QB, not his completion rate but he will win more SB’s than anyone else.


27 posted on 09/06/2013 9:09:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: LibertarianLiz
So, Mr. Tebow (who, btw, I feel has been harrassed for his Christian beliefs)...

I live in Missouri and followed the Rams when Kurt Warner was their QB. There was nobody more devout in his Christian faith and more willing to thank God and credit Him for his successes than Warner was. He and his wife were known throughout the state for their devotion to God and to their family. Warner was just as public in his faith as Tebow is in his. The difference is that Warner was a quarterback, and a very good quarterback at that. He could play the position as few others could. He was a winner both on and off the field. Tebow is not. Tebow is a good man and a good Christian who is badly miscast in the role of an NFL quarterback. That is why Tebow is out of the NFL and why Warner had a long and possibly Hall-Of-Fame career. It has nothing to do with faith and everything to do with talent and skill.

28 posted on 09/06/2013 9:12:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Resolute Conservative
Oh please - Tony Romo is an elite quarterback. The Cowboys' inability to win playoff games has not been Tony Romo's doing. He had a terrible big-game record until 2009. Since then, the Cowboys, when they've won, have won BECAUSE OF him, and when they've lost, they've typically done so despite a great performance from Romo.


29 posted on 09/06/2013 9:13:45 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

You may have something there. While it’s admirable that he’s intent on realizing his dream, at some point you take what you can get. How badly does he want to be in the NFL? Unless he gets better at the QB position - and I don’t know if that’s possible - he cannot have a career as an NFL quarterback. That said he seems like a great guy and if he sticks to his principles he’ll likely do just fine, whether he stays in the NFL or not.


30 posted on 09/06/2013 9:15:19 AM PDT by opus86
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To: corkoman
Good for you Tim. Silly wagging tongues will wag as those with principle and determination will succeed.

Tebow has fought to play QB since Pop Warner and has had a great deal of success, including a state high school championship, a Heisman trophy, a college national championship, and a winning NFL record and playoff win.

31 posted on 09/06/2013 9:18:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: RightFighter

Yet they keep on losing...


32 posted on 09/06/2013 9:19:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Wins is a team stat, with a 53 man roster teams can win with a bad QB. Just ask the 2000 Ravens whose QB is still considered the worst to ever touch a Lombardi. The reason Brady is highly considered is because he completes passes and those complete passes help his team put up gaudy statistics and win games including championships (though not more than anybody else, he’s not even tied for first).


33 posted on 09/06/2013 9:19:56 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: LibertarianLiz
my sentiments exactly
34 posted on 09/06/2013 9:21:21 AM PDT by cantbetooconservative (I miss Ronald Reagan)
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To: discostu

That’s a pretty good summation of his weaknesses. If you compare him to Peyton Manning or Tom Brady as a pocket passer, then no, he’s not very good. Neither are many “athletic” quarterbacks, but they are given year after to year to show the “upside” we keep hearing about. Tebow is done. Can’t even be a backup. Terrelle Pryor is a starter. Pryor looks like what the NFL wants an athletic QB to look like. Tebow doesn’t.


35 posted on 09/06/2013 9:36:21 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg

Actually the modern NFL hardly gives anybody more than 1 season to get it together. If Pryor doesn’t succeed this year, his first as a starter, he’s gone, and really if Flynn hadn’t sucked in the pre-season he’d be starting. What the league wants athletic QBs to look like is the same as they want every other QB to look like: over 60% completions.


36 posted on 09/06/2013 9:43:02 AM PDT by discostu (This is why we have ants!)
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To: cdcdawg
The Raiders exist to bring balance to the AFC. If not for them, the weight of the stupidity of the Jets would cause the continent to tip over. That’s my theory.

LOL! Not a bad theory but I think that you may have to adjust the balance of the continent to take into account the Bills. Maybe the Chargers? Just sayin'.

37 posted on 09/06/2013 9:43:11 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: DoodleDawg
I live in Missouri and followed the Rams when Kurt Warner was their QB. There was nobody more devout in his Christian faith and more willing to thank God and credit Him for his successes than Warner was. He and his wife were known throughout the state for their devotion to God and to their family. Warner was just as public in his faith as Tebow is in his. The difference is that Warner was a quarterback, and a very good quarterback at that. He could play the position as few others could. He was a winner both on and off the field. Tebow is not. Tebow is a good man and a good Christian who is badly miscast in the role of an NFL quarterback. That is why Tebow is out of the NFL and why Warner had a long and possibly Hall-Of-Fame career. It has nothing to do with faith and everything to do with talent and skill.

I agree about Warner being a better qb but I think that anti christian bigotry has become much more accepted since then.

38 posted on 09/06/2013 9:56:41 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Zathras

I hope this is sarcasm. Because what I saw was a quarterback go 3 and out for the first 3 1/2 quarters while the Denver defense kept the team in the game. Those were some of the flukiest wins I ever saw.


39 posted on 09/06/2013 9:58:10 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Resolute Conservative

You left Christian Ponder off that list.


40 posted on 09/06/2013 10:00:54 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: fungoking

The only bigotry I have seen from the NFL in regards to Tebow is one against inaccurate passing, slow releases and bad reads. I heard that Hell is you are a receiver going across the middle with Jack Tatum and Ronnie Lott waiting, and Tebow is your quarterback, repeated over and over. Oh the pain.


41 posted on 09/06/2013 10:01:33 AM PDT by gusty
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To: LibertarianLiz

Very well said. As is is said, pride cometh before the fall. One of the seven deadly sins.


42 posted on 09/06/2013 10:02:42 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: fungoking

Anti Christian bigotry has nothing to do with Tebow. These teams are running a business. Tebow can not get the job done as a QB. His passing is horrible.

There have been many great college players that did not make it in the NFL. Also, many great NFL players did not start out in the position which they are famous for playing. Some did not even start playing football. He could be a great tight end or full back.


43 posted on 09/06/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: cdcdawg
Tebow has shown more on the field than several backup QBs

Yes, let's pretend he did not lose 4 of his final 5 starts in Denver. 2 of the teams he lost to in that 5 game stretch were the 7-9 chiefs and the 6-10 bills. Once the NFL figured out his schtick, he was pretty ineffective.

See the comments that got Rush Limbaugh into NFL hot water

You'll have to help me understand what this has to do with Tebow.

he is being black-balled by the NFL. His outspoken religiosity is one reason

A point that you cannot substantiate with facts, given the many other outspoken Christians in the NFL.

44 posted on 09/06/2013 10:42:36 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Resolute Conservative

And that’s Tony Romo’s fault. Did you actually watch them play last year? The guy carries that whole freaking team and dysfunctional defense on his back.


45 posted on 09/06/2013 11:08:30 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: corkoman

Exacatly right.


46 posted on 09/06/2013 11:11:16 AM PDT by rintense
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To: woodbutcher1963
Anti Christian bigotry has nothing to do with Tebow. These teams are running a business. Tebow can not get the job done as a QB. His passing is horrible.

There have been many great college players that did not make it in the NFL. Also, many great NFL players did not start out in the position which they are famous for playing. Some did not even start playing football. He could be a great tight end or full back.
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I think in your zeal to slam Tebow as a quarterback you are responding to things I didn't say. I was commenting on how there was less outrage over Kurt Warner's exppression of his faith than Tebow today. I wasn't making the case that Tebow was as good a quarterback as Warner or that his faith is why he doesn't have a job; just that folks have been more willing to attack Tebow over his faith than they were Warner (Warner has a lot of folks after him toward the end at STL, don't have your wife go on talk radio).

I've never understood why those who attack Tebow as a QB often feel the need to theorize that he would be a great TE or FB. There are lots of great athletes that have played TE and FB their whole lives that can't make it in the NFL, why would a guy who has never played those positions, especially TE, be thought to have a shot?

47 posted on 09/06/2013 11:30:53 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I got tired of typing. If the Vikings got a good qb/rec combo that could be effective Peterson would actually make more yards himself.


48 posted on 09/06/2013 11:35:07 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: fungoking
Most analysts have stated those are the two positions(TE & FB)that Tebow would be best suited for. He is a great athlete. He does not have the arm strength to throw the deep out passes. Those two positions would be good for someone who excelled at the option run play.

I do not think NFL teams management care what your religion is as long as it is not a distraction to the team or on the field. I think there is more of an issue with Tebow because he has NOT proved himself to be anything except a self promoter in the pros. If he was even half as good as Kurt Warner, it would not be an issue. He is not. At least not yet.

49 posted on 09/06/2013 11:53:18 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: gusty
I hope this is sarcasm. Because what I saw was a quarterback go 3 and out for the first 3 1/2 quarters while the Denver defense kept the team in the game. Those were some of the flukiest wins I ever saw.

The Denver defense that year has been the recipient of some great revisionism. 'Point allowed' is the only defensive category that they were not well established in the bottom half of the league.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2011/opp.htm

Last year they were the 4th best defense in the league. Got Mr. Manning all the way to the playoffs...

50 posted on 09/06/2013 11:56:06 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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