i'd love to... Posted on 09/01/2013 11:31:51 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
I was watching Fox News last night, and John Bolton (R-GOP-e) was asked to give a reply to a previously recorded clip from Rand Paul, and Bolton seemed to be acting as if the president (Obama) is the one who gets to wage war, while Congress just gets to merely declare and/or authorize it.
As if the president (be it Nixon, GHWB, or Clinton) sits on the throne and Congress' job is to merely place the crown on their heads and the scepter in their hands.
Once again, it seems as if another Republican goes to bat for Obama (like McCain and Grahamnesty do ad infinitum) when it comes to military matters. Like I have said, where have the Dems been? Why is it these two stooges (McCain, Graham) who keep traveling to the Middle East doing Obama's bidding?
And today on Fox-e News Sunday with Chris Wallace there -behold - was the all star lineup of Joe Lieberman, and the rest of the panel (Gen. Jack Keane, Jennifer Rubin and Charles Lane) with Lane being the only one who appeared to not be beating the war drums to the point where holes busted in them.
And on MSDNC-e, there he was, mega war hawk Bill Kristol, with pro-Obama Robert Gibby Gibbs in tow, and the rest doing the basic head nod.
In the end, if Congress says no, it's no. Period.
The Dems in the Senate are probably going to betray the majority of Democrat voters and just rubber stamp Obama's wishes, but it remains to be seen what Republicans do in the House of Reps...
Some people are not smart enough to know what they hear and are already predisposed to not like whomever no matter what they say. The poster of this thread is one of those.
I’ll fix Bolton a swell dinner any day:
Individual Cornish Game Hens with apricot glaze and apricot sauce on the side.
Seasoned Wild rice.
Cold asparagus with honey mustard dressing laced on top.
Bowl of Asian veggies with Bourbon sauce in.
Cherry Cobbler.
Coffee.
Nap.
Want to come?
i'd love to... Bolton was once US rep to the United Nations. You do not get in that position unless you are Internationalist and Globalist...which are quite Liberal ideas. You think GW Bush would put in an Americanist?
Unfortunately too many see R next to a name and automatically claim “conservative”
Actually he is right. Congress approves war. The President gives the order to fight.
Obama going to Congress is a gutless move. He wants to hide behind their skirts.
Probably should have replied to you first....
I have no problem with Bolton referred to as GOPe. You do not become US rep to United Nations unless by being a real conservative or Americanist. Not sure why folks think Bolton is conservative...other than he puts an “R” next to his name
Bolton will support Obama on all Internationalist and Globalist intervention
I need to proofread better
I meant “Bolton would not be US rep to UN if he was a real conservative or Americanist”
What an idiotic over generalized statement. We've had good UN Ambassadors before, and for the record, Bolton was attacked by all the liberals when Bush nominated him. Nice try....(actually, not very....)
Bolton’s right. That’s the law of the land, but there’s more ahead of us in the overall situation.
It’s been obvious for a long time, that the majority of U.S. constituents with time and money for politics (the more vociferous of the 40 million or so receiving incomes from government) have no will fight foreign enemies. But they have been fantasizing much about exterminating their own neighbors at home. They don’t realize that instead of any “scenario” of an end to the world, their own gluttonous lives are naturally very limited. Vanities...
The President is Commander-In-Chief therefore he wages any war. Only the Congress can declare war the President can’t.
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The CIC does wage war. But absent exigent circumstance he can not wage war without authorization from Congress and it doesn’t matter much whether they say “we declare war” or “Kill them all” since the Constitution is silent on the means and methods of declaring war.
At seven AM yesterday morning I posted that I had heard Bolton (WITH MY OWN TWO EARS) state the night before that is was neither illegal or impeachable for Obama to attack Syria on his own.
Now I'm reading on this thread all sorts of things that he allegedly has said since that are in direct opposition to what I heard him say on the Factor...WITH MY OWN TWO EARS !!!
Leni
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.
[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]
Here's the passage at issue:In the 1980s, the war caucus in Congress armed bin Laden and the mujaheddin in their fight with the Soviet Union. In fact, it was the official position of the State Department to support radical jihad against the Soviets. We all know how well that worked out.Let's leave aside for now the insulting, utterly asinine, sickening, inexcusable use of the phrase "war caucus" to describe those (including Reagan!) who supported the mujaheddin against the Soviets. That word choice alone is almost entirely disqualifying for its purveyor to ever be president.
Instead, let's just look at a little history here -- because the ignorance evident in this paragraph is truly astonishing. One would be hard pressed to find even a single historian, whether right, left, or center, who would argue anything other than that the Soviet failure in Afghanistan was not just a huge factor, but probably an essential one, in the Soviets' ultimate loss of the Cold War. [Rand Paul’s Really Ignorant Paragraph | 7 Feb 2013]
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