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RUSH: Giving up citizenship -which nation is the New America?
Heritage Foundation ^ | 2013 | NA

Posted on 08/12/2013 10:42:33 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists

Just listening to Rush

He is discussing the increase in people giving up US citizenship. I have thought about this as have many in my family. But where to go? Is it really an option politically and financially? Which culture would be the best fit for an ex-American citizen? What kind of legal hassles would result? Please be specific as to why you feel the country you state is the "best" country to immigrate to; political/social atmosphere, wage, social mobility, entrepreneurial opportunities, etc.


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KEYWORDS: citizenship; cowards; deserter; desertion; expats; free; freedom; immigrate; livefreeordie; rushlimbaugh; rushlive; tyranny
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Thailand, Canada, dear Lord - even Viet-Name might be better the than the US in a decade?
1 posted on 08/12/2013 10:42:33 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists
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To: Deathtomarxists

Better to stay here, fight it out - end up dead. Or just shut our mouths and live with it?


2 posted on 08/12/2013 10:43:09 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: Deathtomarxists

There is no “new America”. It is one and only.

If you give up your citizenship its because you decided to go pirate. You’ll probably arrange to have several citizenships.


3 posted on 08/12/2013 10:44:57 AM PDT by marron
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To: Deathtomarxists

Interesting post. We had been thinking Britain as it has been veering away from Socialism lately. But visited there earlier this year and the Muslim influence is increasing, at least in London.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 10:46:53 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Rush’s vision for America is bleak given the extreme damage and perpetual liberal lock over government. Welcome to the penal plantation.


5 posted on 08/12/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by Tugo (Never Submit!)
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To: Tugo

I’d look toward Chile or New Zealand.


6 posted on 08/12/2013 10:49:17 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Australia if you are young and have skills. Russia if you are highly adaptable or have money. Chile.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 10:49:17 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Deathtomarxists

If you have $100K saved up, and any income at all over $1000 a month, go to thailand

The people there are the sweetest and kindest, and I would rather see Freepers move there than anyone else (but don’t tell any NON-freepers)


8 posted on 08/12/2013 10:49:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Deathtomarxists

I ain’t leaving.

Period.


9 posted on 08/12/2013 10:51:03 AM PDT by abb
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To: marron

if you ‘give up your citizenship’ do you no longer receive social security?

Or is it an added bonus for non-citizens?


10 posted on 08/12/2013 10:51:05 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Romulus

If it were entirely up to me (but the wife won’t care for it), Poland or Slovakia.


11 posted on 08/12/2013 10:51:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I have heard excellent things about Thailand. It is blazingly hot in the south but in the north there are moountains and a city named MingChing or such. It has a large expatriot population so has pizza parlors, burger joints and steak restaurants. plus you can catch the nfl games there. Housing is new and very affordable and as you say, the people are sweetest on earth.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 10:52:43 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Thailand?


13 posted on 08/12/2013 10:53:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Re: Vietnam...

I worked for a clothing company a few years ago. One of the places was at a DC (Distribution Center) for the eastern US. Think 350,000 ft^2 of four-story high shelves. Seriously *big* place.

I used to walk the DC on my lunch hour for exercise. One day, just for grins, I tried to find a carton, somewhere in the building, that had "Made in the USA" stamped on it.

No dice. But I did discover that 90%+ of the stuff in that massive building was stamped with "Made in Vietnam".

I can't imagine that it's changed much, or that it's much different for other clothing manufacturers. Someone in Vietnam is making money off our back-to-school sales. There's success to be found there, like it or not, I think.

14 posted on 08/12/2013 10:54:25 AM PDT by wbill
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the social security question is a good one. I imagine if you renounce you lose it. Could just go expat, still collect it - but they would want taxes and probably haunt you the rest of your life like the Nazis did to their expats.

SS will probably be bankrupt anyway so I would take my chances without it.


15 posted on 08/12/2013 10:54:33 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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Leave?

Hell No!

The party hasn't even started!

Molon Lave

16 posted on 08/12/2013 10:55:16 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: wbill
Someone in Vietnam is making money off our back-to-school sales.

That "someone" is a high up in the Communist Party.

17 posted on 08/12/2013 10:55:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

http://voices.yahoo.com/ten-reasons-western-expats-move-thailand-its-not-2750443.html

Looks like Thailand may be near top of the list.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 10:56:24 AM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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To: Deathtomarxists

Look up the nations that have no drinking ages or ages that begin at 16 and you’ll find liberty, freedom in bloom and a fairly secular government.

Then cross-check with private gun ownership laws.

You get both and you’ll find your winner. At least that’s my system and I think it is pretty solid.


19 posted on 08/12/2013 10:57:14 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Deathtomarxists; NFHale; Marcella; DuncanWaring
"Better to stay here, fight it out - end up dead. Or just shut our mouths and live with it?"

Stay and fight...or be a worthless POS coward. Every American who fought and died in the past is watching us at this moment, to see what we do for the nation they left for us. Will we earn our birthright? Or will we run and hide in some sh*thole foreign land because we're pathetic, sniveling cowards; because nothing is more valuable to us than our own comfort and perceived "safety".

Another thought...those who run away and cower in places like the Philippines will stick out like a turd in the punchbowl when the world economy finally collapses, and the natives turn on any and all foreigners. I'd rather my lifeblood be spilled on my native land than have my head sawed off with a rusty, dull machete, in a 3rd-world banana grove.

Shut up and take it? Hell no! Speak up, speak out, get out in the streets, get loud, get on TV, get in their faces. If for no other reason, to rally our side, and to assure those wavering, linguini-spined moderates that we're the majority, and we have the numbers. Maybe if we show some guts, they will, too.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

20 posted on 08/12/2013 10:57:25 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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