Skip to comments.World War II veteran, 95, died after police shot him with TASER and bean bag rounds
Posted on 08/08/2013 7:40:19 AM PDT by dennisw
John Wrana was being 'involuntarily' committed for medical treatment Brandished his cane and a shoehorn and police were called to care home
A 95-year-old world War II veteran died after being Tasered and hit with bean bag rounds by police for threatening care home staff - but his family insist he was killed unnecessarily.
Police say that John Wrana, who lived in a Chicago assisting living home, was brandishing his cane, a metal shoehorn and a knife before officers shocked him and hit him with bean bag rounds.
The senior citizen had been reported to authorities because he was being 'involuntarily' committed for medical treatment by staff at the Victory Centre, the Chicago Tribune reported.
He was behaving in 'combative' manner, by threatening staff with his cane and a shoehorn. Wrana was reportedly scheduled to undergo a risky surgery, and was apparently afraid to end up on life support.
When police arrived at Park Forest at around 8.45pm, they said he was ordered to surrender, but he refused to and continued to berate staff and threaten them.
Officers claim he then picked up a 6-inch knife, but his family's attorney alleges that care home staff did not see him do this, The Blaze reported.
He was then shocked by a Taser, hit with rounds of bean bag ammunition, and was taken into custody and then to hospital.
Staff claimed that he was sitting in a chair during the row, suggesting that the force used by authorities might not have been warranted, according to The Blaze.
The Chicago Tribune reported that Mr Wrana was conscious when he was taken to St. James Hospital and Health Centers in Chicago Heights.
But he was then moved to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where he died at about 2.30am.
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YOUR FUTURE UNDER OBAMA-CARE!!!! And half witted policeman...really really stupid ones
I’m a big supporter of law enforcement. They have a tough, thankless job.
But this just comes across as excessive to me.
I wasn’t there, though.
“Staff claimed that he was sitting in a chair during the row”
I’d say it sounds excessive
Nice how you qualified it all. What a bootlicker!
They were probably all dressed up like ninjas for their trip to the nursing home. If he would have had a dog, those pigs would have killed it too.
Nothing more dangerous than a vet with a cane!
If he was my father...
One unanswered question would be where was the man’s family?
They might have been able to calm him. Someone sure needed to before the police were called. How many truly dangerous 95 year olds do any of us know. Once the police are in on it, it is going to be luck of the draw as to how things play out. In this case another veteran is dispatched for lack of social skills on the part of the police.
He was behaving in ‘combative’ manner, by threatening staff with his cane and a shoehorn. Wrana was reportedly scheduled to undergo a risky surgery, and was apparently afraid to end up on life support.
If the man didn’t want the surgery why were they going to force him to it?
I guess he didn’t end up on life support, he ended up dead....
The man should have the freedom to refuse surgery, freedom means making bad decisions sometimes, this is concept progressives don’t understand at all...
It takes a real assh*le to do that to a 95 year-old man...
F***ing cops. I hope family members of this poor guy sue the sh*t out of them.
What are the chances that the cops were a bunch of blacks who, like the OJ jury, or the “justice for trayvon” crowd, don’t care much for the life of a white person?
A 95 year old dude sitting in a chair? You are not only a supporter but you are wearing kneepads.
“Nothing more dangerous than a vet with a cane!”
Yes and one that is 95 years old too!
Do I really need the sarc/ for that?
“A 95 year old dude sitting in a chair? You are not only a supporter but you are wearing kneepads. “
My opinion is that if two or three male nurses could not control a 95 year old bedridden man then there is something wrong with those nurses!! They should have never called the police in the first place!
At this point, what difference does it make? Just an old White ex-army guy. No need to grab his dangerous cane and assault weapon shoe horn. No need for the burly cops, armed with guns, tasers, bear spray, nightsticks and handcuffs to surround the guy and take away the dangerous weapons. Just knock the $h!t out of the old guy. So what if he dies? Jesse jackson and al sharpton are not gonna do a war dance over this. The feds won’t investigate a civil rights complaint.
Just one more old White ex-army guy.
Who gives a $h!t?
Exactly...he refused tentatively helpful surgery so they killed him.....smooth.
The article the other day where cops in Ohio shot like 140 freaking rounds at the unarmed couple.
Was just beyond belief...
Dear Diary, Today was great! Sun shining, birds singing, and I killed a 95 year old guy for “brandishing” a cane.
“Do I really need the sarc/ for that?”
Nah...the whole event is a sarcasm. What possible threat could an old guy like that be if he had a hundred knives and a bazooka besides?
We have a winner. You get what you pay for.
They had to kill him in order to make him get better.
full disclosure....I could NEVER be a cop.
I would absolutely suck at that job.
So I admire those who can do it well.
I would never make it thru my first domestic call.
“You are BOTH too STUPID to LIVE!!!!!”
95? 95! effin cops. Maybe they should have called in the Marines.
Yeah, he should have been jailed for not having the procedure the center wanted him to. That's got to be a major felony. And the sooner they stop with that "greatest generation" crap and quit sucking up resources, the better off we'll all be, right?
What I don’t understand is why the PD didn’t deploy a full-on SWAT team, complete with dogs, tank and RPG’s?
(Please detect sarc)
Policemen used to be ok, you had good ones and bad ones, but good or bad they were human beings, now they are just like a bunch of police state mentality programed robots.
. At that point you’re almost trolling for idiots.
The poor man. No civilized country would tolerate this.
full disclosure....I could NEVER be a cop.
I would absolutely suck at that job.
Surely they are not paying me to come in and murder them.
suicide by cop, the old guy wanted to go out fighting, he did.
Hell of a way to go. The poor guy survived The Great Depression and WW2 only to die like a dog at the hands of some thugs with a badge. My wife is a nurses aide at our local hospital and has to deal with elderly people who are frequently combative because they are either suffering dementia or Alzhimers or are just scared. Most of the time the family isn’t around to help, not everyone can be with a loved one every minute, so the staff has to deal with the person but there are other ways to deal with elderly people without having to resort to this.
My oldest brother was a 2nd. Lieutenant 5th. Marines, 3rd. Battalion ‘77-80. My late-father-in-law was 4th. Marines. Saipan, Tinian and Iwo Jima.
that though went through my mind and how about the staff that was scared of him? Were they minorities or foreigners devoid of sympathy or understanding of an old white guy 95 years old?
Never ever leave your loved one alone in a hospital or other facility, especially if the are very old or very young. They are too vulnerable, and people treat them like they don’t really have rights - just the obligation to obey their orders.
When my parents or children were in the hospital, I stayed with them 24/7. I didn’t go home till they went home. Same with the rehabe center. Our family took turns staying with them.
When they tried to tell me visiting hours were over, I just said, tell your supervisor I am not leaving, my parent gets too anxious, and is afraid to stay here with out me. I’ll be happy to give the supervisor my lawyer’s number.
He was a lieutenant 5th. Marine Division, 3rd. Battalion, Lima Company.