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Prostate cancer found in half of men over 60 at time of death
Toronto Sun ^ | July 12, 2013 | Kevin Connor

Posted on 07/13/2013 4:42:55 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: rarestia

I don’t eat meat...not because animals are cute. After surviving several blasts in Iraq - no wounds - but twisted up - I found that coming back and eating a meat diet - I just could digest it...Walter Reed suggested that going vegetarian would help my digestion since it was my hip and leg which was affected. They also stated that eating veg’s - the human body gets enough protein and that I do not need to intake the amount of daily protein someone does when they eat meat...so in all actual fact - humans don’t have to eat meat to survive, build muscle, etc...my conditions improved and I feel much better - plus I never get sick or take the flu shot - while everyone else around me that does - gets sick...plus I was taking allergy medicine and taking shots — my allergy symptoms cleared up with in 72 hrs completely...haven’t taken allergy med’s since....this is going on years now...i take it for what it is and from what I’ve experienced personally...however, the Natives in Alaska have to eat meat — but they do so almost 100%...so it really depends on environment...I can assure you - If I had to kill an animal to survive — I’d do it without thought...but where I’m at - I don’t have to and can eat a total meatless diet...alot of sick people are that way due to their diet...medication just hide the symptoms and never heal the person like going on a strict healthy veg/fruit/almond milk/grain diet...no soy either...


51 posted on 07/13/2013 4:58:10 PM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: southern rock; BCW

“Don’t want to die from cancer - stop eating meat, dairy, & sugars..replace it with veg’s, fruits, grains, and almond milk - “

Meat and Dairy is not the problem. Meat loaded with antibiotics and hormones, and also dairy, along with pastuerized dairy, can be deadly.

Of course you can substitute good ole Soy Protein (Veggie) with all its cancer causing estrogenics...really good for cancer in the prostate or breast etc.

Now, seriously, if we are interested in preventing breast or prostate cancer we need to saturate the tissues with iodine. A woman with enough iodine in her system will not get breast cancer. A man with enough iodine will not get prostate cancer. An no, iodized salt does not give you enough iodine. Think supplementation. Some Japanese diets many have higher levels of iodine, and that could explain the less significant impact prostate cancer has on Japanese men.


52 posted on 07/13/2013 5:19:51 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: rarestia; BCW
Then there's this.
53 posted on 07/13/2013 5:37:28 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Meat and Dairy is not the problem. Meat loaded with antibiotics and hormones, and also dairy, along with pastuerized dairy, can be deadly.

Complete BS as is a lot of the other “information” posted on this tread. Especially your part about pasteurized dairy being deadly. Quite the opposite is true as unpasteurized dairy products are more likely to cause serious illness and even death unless you like a good dose of Brucella, Campylobacter, E. coli O157:H7, Listeria, Mycobacterium bovis, Salmonella, and Yersinia. Yummy. Louis Pasteur (who was a genius and saved an untold number of lives) is rolling in his grave with nonsense such as this and if he could come back, he’d slap you silly.

Of course you can substitute good ole Soy Protein (Veggie) with all its cancer causing estrogenics...really good for cancer in the prostate or breast etc.

An no, iodized salt does not give you enough iodine. Think supplementation. Some Japanese diets many have higher levels of iodine, and that could explain the less significant impact prostate cancer has on Japanese men.

Again, complete and utter junk science. First of all, if you eat a well balanced diet that includes some deep green leafy vegetables and some seafood and use even small amounts of iodized salt, you are probably getting plenty of iodine. If however you take OTC iodine supplements, especially in large amounts, you risk serious heart problems and thyroid disease.

And I would also point out that the Japanese eat a lot of soy and soy products, an average 8.7 g of soy protein per day so if what you say is true about their consumption of iodine (that I would think comes from their consumption of seafood and seaweed) then the amount of soy they eat would counter act their iodine consumption.

54 posted on 07/13/2013 7:40:01 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Time for you to go back to school, but not the one sponsored by the Druggies, i.e. Big Pharma. You are ignorant regarding dairy. Review the data. Google could be your friend. And you need to learn how to discern the difference between Big Pharma/Big Ag ‘hype’ and the truth.


55 posted on 07/13/2013 7:51:29 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Instead of addressing what I posted or answering my questions, insult me. That’s the way all you anti-science types react when confronted with the facts.


56 posted on 07/13/2013 7:54:55 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Yeah - my little boy - who eat nothign but healthy foods - won’t touch McDonald - has always been that way since 2yrs old...and is now 5 yrs old...eats a vegetarian diet and was checked by Riley Hospital - is growing and not deficient in anything...watch websites like this...everyone has an agenda....and depending, supplements that are natural may have to be taken...vitamins and natural enzymes might have to be given depending on what is served....there was something else that lead to this baby’s death other than what this article is saying...


57 posted on 07/14/2013 4:42:03 AM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW

Well I thank you for your service, and I appreciate your conviction. I apologize if my post came off as an insinuation that you are/were a militant vegan. My statements were generalities intended for a broader audience and not directed at any particular FReeper.

It frustrates me to no end seeing people fade away into wisps because they have some preposterous notion that meat is murder or otherwise causes grievous harm to the human body. Humans have been consuming meat since the dawn of time. Yes we eat fruit and vegetables, but we also consume meat. It is scientifically evident from our dental evolution and the fact that we have a single-chamber stomach. To deny oneself meat is to deny thousands of years of evolution and the protein and fat necessary for normal systemic functionality.

More power to you for your plight, BCW. I personally exercise daily, including heavy weight lifting, kayaking, biking, running, and contact sports. I require a lot of protein to keep synthesis of new muscle fibers going and to maintain healthy blood.


58 posted on 07/14/2013 5:08:43 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: southern rock

So true. I radically changed my diet to almost all vegetables and a little fruit. Went a long time with no meat, no dairy, no sugars (other than from root vegetables and fruit), no processed carbs (no bread, pasta etc.) I lost 35 pounds and cut my 10k run time by 15 minutes. I’ve since introduced more protein as I’m lifting weights more. I’ve gained back 6 pounds of muscle.

The bottom line is I’m 43 years old and have 3 young sons. I want to be around when they grow up. I’d like to live well into my 80s and have a relationship with my future grand kids. It takes discipline. It helps that I’m still in the army and must pass an annual APFT. This year I maxed my run and took satisfaction in beating all the kids in their 20s.

Yes, I cheat sometimes. Had a party at the house last night and ate at least 6 pieces of pizza, drank 6 beers. That means I’ll run 8 miles today instead of 6.

One more thing...invest in a good juicer. Its a great way to get some quality calories. Watch the documentary “Fat Sick and Nearly Dead” by Joe Cross. Very entertaining and informative.


59 posted on 07/14/2013 5:33:22 AM PDT by strider44
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Yeah, I saw the film "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" and liked it, but as I stated to the original poster earlier, the problem I have with it is that juicing is like drinking pure sugar. Blending, for me, is the way to go because it keeps the "whole" food in tact. I make smoothies mixing greens with fruit.
60 posted on 07/14/2013 4:30:41 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

Someone sent this to me - I don’t know if it actually came from Hopkins Hospital...but I have heard cancer treatment is going this route...

LATEST CANCER INFORMATION
from Johns Hopkins

AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY AND ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY …

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person’s lifetime.

3. When the person’s immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements will strengthen the immune system.

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc, and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.

11. An effective way to battle cancer is to STARVE the cancer cells by not feeding it with foods it needs to multiple.

What cancer cells feed on:

a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Note: Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in colour. Better alternative is Bragg’s aminos or sea salt.

b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soy milk, cancer cells will starved.

c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.

d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes t o nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells.

To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).

e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties. Water—best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines will become putrified and leads to more toxic buildup.

13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body’s killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body’s own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body’s normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.

15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor.

Anger, unforgiving and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.

16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.


61 posted on 07/17/2013 3:54:55 AM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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