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NFL considers banning academically ineligible players from Scouting Combine
NBC Sports ^ | Posted by Mike Florio on July 6, 2013, 10:04 PM EDT

Posted on 07/07/2013 10:33:16 AM PDT by Perdogg

In response to the criticism arising from the Aaron Hernandez case, the NFL is considering a change that, in our view, ultimately will have no impact on the decision of teams to take chances on players with questionable backgrounds

(Excerpt) Read more at profootballtalk.nbcsports.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: hernandez; nfl

1 posted on 07/07/2013 10:33:16 AM PDT by Perdogg
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2 posted on 07/07/2013 10:33:50 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

Isn’t that racist????


3 posted on 07/07/2013 10:37:39 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Perdogg

Barbara Streisand


4 posted on 07/07/2013 10:38:07 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Perdogg

The NFL doesn’t have a minor league. They depend on colleges to produce players. It’s up to the colleges to have the same academic standards for atheletes as the rest of their students. In addition to that, they’re getting sports scholarships. I’m amazed they aren’t revoked for criminal behavior.


5 posted on 07/07/2013 10:43:34 AM PDT by grania
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To: al baby
Barbara Streisand

Yes, I believe she is "academically eligible" for the NFL draft.

Screw the NFL.

"Pro Football" is a bunch of thugs in all these pads running a play then having an injury/instant replay review/commercial timeout for 3 minutes... then they run another play. Lather, rinse, repeat. BORING... about as boring as watching cars driving around an oval.

I was spoiled a few years ago that paid for Setenta Sports on DirecTV... I watch rugby now whenever I can... it's that or women's biathlon (when in season).

6 posted on 07/07/2013 10:49:04 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Perdogg

NBA will take kids right out of HS..or the very common one-and done..whereas the NFL only allows them to be drafted after 3 years of college eligibility have passed. Obviously there’s a discrepancy here, which will end up in court. The NFL doesn’t want to upset the colleges, which provide them with a free farm system.I don’t know how it all ends up. The NBA has the “D” league..maybe the NFL should purchase Arena football, of forget the dumb idea of a team in Europe, and put a “D” league in several European cities. Also, the O’Bannon case hangs over all of this..


7 posted on 07/07/2013 10:49:10 AM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: Perdogg
If the essayist is correct then teams that want potentially problematic players will have to pay a bit more to scout them. Also, it will be more obvious when teams draft players that have problems, when those players are on a list of those ineligible for the combine.

This should have some effect on discouraging teams from scouting those players, or being more diligent in their sussing out of those players they do draft outside of the combine.

I don't see anything wrong in that. It might make colleges a bit more diligent in teaching their kids. Some teams might make pledges to not draft anyone ineligible for the combine. College players might work a bit harder to keep their academic eligibility so they can go to combine, especially if they are not name players, and who will need every edge they can get.

8 posted on 07/07/2013 10:52:58 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ken5050

its not 3 years of passed college eligibility its three years removed from high school- better known as the Larry Fitzgerald rule....

i’m in the NFL Draft business and can tell you the academically ineligible case won’t pass and won’t do a damn thing...there was an encyclopedia of damaging information available to teams on Hernandez when he entered the draft; most had to do with his habitual use of marijuana and the attitude of he and his family towards the chronic use...this went back to the days he was being recruited by Urban Meyer to Florida- i laughed when Meyer made his “don’t blame me” statement...

the “im invincible, i can get away with anything, they know i’m a chronic weed smoker and can’t do a damn thing about it” has much more to do than any academic issue...


9 posted on 07/07/2013 10:56:26 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ken5050

They already tried a D league in Europe, that’s what NFL Europe was, it failed, Europe wasn’t interested in minor league football. And technically the NFL draft delay has nothing to do with college, the players simply have to be out of high school for 3 years, could be in college, could be in semi-pro, could be working at the grocery store, just so long as they graduated high school 3 years ago. The NBA borrowed the idea when they added the one year rule, but in typical NBA fashion they didn’t understand what the rule is about (not making teenagers millionaires, and letting them some of that very important late growth that strengthens bones and overall durability) and failed to do it right. And the NFL has been to court about it, Maurice Clarett sued them over it and lost, then he started getting in trouble with the law and proved the rule a good idea.

This isn’t a bad idea. Too many kids tank their classes when they want to get drafted, instead focusing on their work outs to prepare for the combine. It’s best not to reward them, not sure it’ll really help anything, and it certainly won’t stop the Hernandez’s, but it takes a stand. They should also take a stand on coaches that get in trouble in the NCAA, it’s a sad thing to have multiple coaches “serving” NCAA suspensions by getting paid even more in the NFL.


10 posted on 07/07/2013 10:58:38 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Perdogg
How about just banning morons who think they are King of the gangstas? I don't know, call me crazy, but a 23 year old kid who has his entire upper torso covered in tattoos that says stuff like "hate me now" or has a picture of Jesus praying up to his name as if he were God may not be exactly all there in the mental stability dept.


11 posted on 07/07/2013 11:01:29 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Perdogg

This should be the colleges’ issue not the NFL’s. If the athletes are academically ineligible then they should not have been participating at the NCAA level.


12 posted on 07/07/2013 11:01:30 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Rodamala

I read or heard that the actual amount of “playing” time or action for 4 quarters of a football game is something like 6 mintues. I really dont understand how anyone finds it interesting.


13 posted on 07/07/2013 11:04:19 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: goodwithagun

Problem is there are 2 months between the last college game and the combine, plenty of time to lose academic eligibility with no real possible consequence (it’s hard to get suspended from games that don’t exist).


14 posted on 07/07/2013 11:06:12 AM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Perdogg
better be careful lest the EEOC SUE THEM!!!
15 posted on 07/07/2013 11:10:54 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Perdogg
"NFL considers banning academically ineligible players from Scouting Combine"

GREAT IDEA!

16 posted on 07/07/2013 11:11:47 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and the other over my mouth.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

How about holding the NFL franchises who draft these scumbags responsible? You don’t need to ban anyone. Despite essentially failing a psych eval, New England chose to draft Hernandez.


17 posted on 07/07/2013 11:17:59 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: grania

When I was at FSU if you needed an easy quarter you followed the football players through registration. They had one course and I kid you not it was called “Trucks and Trains”. :-)


18 posted on 07/07/2013 11:19:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Perdogg

What does academics have to do with football?


19 posted on 07/07/2013 11:54:42 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Perdogg

I reckon they won’t be using combines anymore. Gonna have to go back to hand harvesting.


20 posted on 07/07/2013 1:41:19 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Goodbye America. Glad the majority of my years were spent during the good days.)
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To: discostu

I misstated the NFL 3 year rule..thanks...care to comment about the discrepancy between the NFL and NBA policies?


21 posted on 07/07/2013 3:48:54 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: discostu

I was stationed in Spain from 68-72..and I think it was 1971, the Harlem Globetrotters came to Barcelona for an exhibition game. It was outdoors, at the Plaza Cataluna..just unreal..I was with a couple of Marine NCOs who were both tall and black...people kept on stopping us and asking for autographs..I signed easily over a hundred....they shut it down, and built an elevated court..I think that the crowd was estimated at 50,000 when the stopped trying to count..I realized then that the NBA/American basketball had a global appeal..


22 posted on 07/07/2013 3:53:26 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: ken5050

The NBA didn’t really understand the point of the NFL rule. The NCAA was getting upset that the NBA was grabbing players straight out of high school, big star players like Kobe and LeBron, players that were going to make the NCAA a lot of money, so they copied the NFL rule. But having done it right after the NFL got sued they went for only one year, to avoid lawsuits. They thought the whole point was to get the star players in college for a bit. But the NFL rule isn’t for that. It’s to give the players another layer, more time to grow physically and mentally, get stronger, play in a faster game than high school with a longer season, but not as fast or long as the NFL. It’s actually a very self serving, they figured out that 18 year olds aren’t ready for the NFL, not for the speed of the game, not for the physical intensity of the game, not ready for the money, and not ready for the “side benefits”. The rule is as much about avoiding Greg Oden as it is Maurice Clarett, but the NBA thinks it’s just to appease the NCAA.


23 posted on 07/07/2013 4:06:59 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Perdogg

No, Aaron Hernandez will ultimately have an impact on teams considering academically ineligible players.


24 posted on 07/07/2013 4:08:12 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ken5050

NFL stars, and NFL games, seem to have solid international appeal. The “American Bowl” series (NFL games played internationally) has been a raving success, for a long time a pre-season game played in Mexico City was the highest attended NFL game ever. But even pre-season games feature real NFL stars taking a couple of snaps. NFL Europe didn’t do that, a few of the players made it to the NFL proper, but most of them landed 3rd or 4th on the depth chart. Nobody went to Europe a star, nobody left Europe to become a star. Which is why it failed, while real NFL games in Europe do quite well, getting 2 next season.


25 posted on 07/07/2013 4:12:27 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The signs were there from the beginning that Hernandez was not right. If I could see them, anyone could have.


26 posted on 07/07/2013 4:14:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rintense

They were lined up returning his tees and sweatshirts at the stadium today.

Nice to see.

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27 posted on 07/07/2013 4:19:53 PM PDT by Mears
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To: discostu

Many thanks for the incisive comments..


28 posted on 07/07/2013 4:21:17 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: Perdogg

Read Tom Wolfe’s “Man In Full.” One of the characters is a teen athlete destined for the pros who gets himself in trouble with a rape charge. Wolfe nails perfectly the whole culture of bending over backwards to accomodate “gifted athletes” so they can get through college even though they are as dumb as a bag of hammers. Of course, the athlete in the book is a contemptible, anti-social jerk who feels he is above the law because he can toss a basketball into a round hoop.


29 posted on 07/07/2013 4:25:09 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Regarding his "Hate Me Now" tattoo.

Let me be the first to say...mission accomplished.

30 posted on 07/07/2013 4:27:07 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
I read or heard that the actual amount of “playing” time or action for 4 quarters of a football game is something like 6 minutes. I really dont understand how anyone finds it interesting.

You could probably say the same for Major League Baseball, in which most players come up to bat maybe 3 or 4 times in a game and aside from the pitcher and catcher, spend the majority of the time on the field picking their noses, waiting for a ball to come their way.

Both games however can be very interesting once you learn the intricacies of the sport, which elude the casual spectator.

31 posted on 07/07/2013 4:33:53 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

Oh yes, they said baseball was not too far behind.

Hockey on the otherhand, is 60 full minutes of play and action.


32 posted on 07/07/2013 4:59:55 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: goodwithagun

they aren’t allowed to participate and with no other option they usually end up entering the NFL draft, even if they have little chance of being selected...


33 posted on 07/07/2013 5:34:37 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: trisham

I read he scored the lowest possible score on his NFL psyche test for social maturity - but they signed him anyway. I assume this test had questions like:

Q. “If someone cuts you off in traffic do you let then go or do you shoot them?”

A. “Oh I shoot them!”

Let’s sign this man to a $40 million contract!


34 posted on 07/07/2013 7:33:22 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Rodamala

How big was the gun put to your head that made you post to a thread of something you disdain?

I suggest you stick with your eurochick “sports.”


35 posted on 07/07/2013 7:41:31 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: freedumb2003

Seriously... you are pretty ignorant if you believe rugby is faggoty in any way. It’s the closest thing to raw male athleticism there is... a gruelling endurance sport... when there is an injury... play goes on while the guy is writhing in pain on the ground with a dislocated shoulder being popped back into its socket. Whatever, dude.


36 posted on 07/07/2013 8:36:51 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

>>Seriously... you are pretty ignorant if you believe rugby is faggoty in any way. It’s the closest thing to raw male athleticism there is... a gruelling endurance sport... when there is an injury... play goes on while the guy is writhing in pain on the ground with a dislocated shoulder being popped back into its socket. Whatever, dude.<<

Hey, if chicks popping sockets gets you off, I won’t be the one to say that you shouldn’t enjoy it.

You eurochick lovers always like the dykamics...


37 posted on 07/08/2013 12:42:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Your obviously interested. You commented on an NFL thread. If you don’t like football why are you even on this thread?
I’m tired of all the fake-ass self rightous a-holes who come on the football threads and bash those of us who enjoy game.


38 posted on 07/08/2013 6:33:44 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Perdogg

“Academically ineligible” should not be in college. Let the NFL start it’s own “minor leagues” Every college athlete should be required to have the “average” S A T of that college. Even better, ELIMINATE athletic scholarships, as the IVY LEAGUE did over 60 years ago(they do give some “leeway” to athletes as do the Military Academy’s )


39 posted on 07/08/2013 6:49:49 AM PDT by capt B
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