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British UFO Document Release Designed to Deflect Public and Media Interest...(trunc title)
reuters.com ^ | 6/26/2013

Posted on 06/26/2013 8:44:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

A claim by the British Ministry of Defence that UFOs have no defense significance is "designed solely to keep Parliament, the media and the public off our backs," according to former MoD UFO Desk administrator Nick Pope.

Pope's startling statement was in response to the MoD's release last week of what it says is its final batch of UFO documents. Official MoD spokesmen and one self-styled UFO expert, David Clarke, claim that the MoD found no evidence of a UFO threat to the UK and, therefore, closed its UFO Desk. The subsequent, widely-publicized declassification of its UFO documents—the implication being that nothing remained hidden—was intended to demonstrate the MoD's public transparency on the UFO issue.

In reality, Pope says, "the UK's Freedom of Information Act contains wide-ranging exemptions covering areas such as defense, security and intelligence" and the newly-available documents had already been "judged to be unclassified" before their release.

Regarding David Clarke, Pope says, "Some people would probably use the term 'useful idiot' to describe his parroting the MoD 'no defense significance' sound bite."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: alienabduction; charleshalt; johnmack; mack; mod; modufo; nickpope; rendlesham; ufo; ufofiles

1 posted on 06/26/2013 8:44:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux; Revolting cat!; Daffynition
This thread is worthless without pictures...


2 posted on 06/26/2013 8:48:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

Looks like a blurry colonoscopy picture. At least we now have proof of what is causing glo-bull warming. All those ufo’s coming and going.


3 posted on 06/26/2013 8:50:02 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Lenticular cloud. I've seen them before. They're pretty cool.
4 posted on 06/26/2013 8:52:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: a fool in paradise
That looks exactly like the UFO I saw. Then I was abducted and probed by these two aliens...


5 posted on 06/26/2013 8:54:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RoosterRedux

Keep laughing...there IS something here. It may not be from outer space...it may be Biblical...but there IS something here.


6 posted on 06/26/2013 9:08:35 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: kjo
I may be chuckling but I have also read all of Dr John Mack's accounts re: alien abduction.

I can assure you that there is something there...and it is most likely Biblical as you say.

7 posted on 06/26/2013 9:12:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RoosterRedux

John Mack was killed crossing a London street. Hit by a car. He was one of the few with high prestige degrees that upset the denial establishment.

Can’t also help but wonder about Michael Hastings.

Even paranoids have enemies.


8 posted on 06/26/2013 9:19:41 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: kjo
Yep.

I really admired John Mack and his approach.

Here's part of an old interview of him by PBS/NOVA that you might enjoy...

Interview with John Mack, Psychiatrist, Harvard University

NOVA: Let's talk about your own personal evolution from perhaps skepticism to belief ...

MACK: When I first encountered this phenomenon, or particularly even before I had actually seen the people themselves, I had very little place in my mind to take this seriously. I, like most of us, were raised to believe that if we were going to discover other intelligence, we'd do it through radio waves or through signals or something of that kind.

Quote: I came very reluctantly to the conclusion that this was a true mystery

The idea that we could be reached by some other kind of being, creature, intelligence that could actually enter our world and have physical effects as well as emotional effects, was simply not part of the world view that I had been raised in. So that I came very reluctantly to the conclusion that this was a true mystery. In other words, that I—I did everything I could to rule out other sources, or sexual abuse. Some of these people are abused. But they're able to tell, distinguish clearly the abduction trauma from other forms of abuse. Some forms of psychosis or people making up stories—I could reject that on the basis that there was no gain in this for the vast majority of these people.

.... I've now worked with over a hundred experiencers intensively. Which involves an initial two-hour or so screening interview before I do anything else. And in case after case after case, I've been impressed with the consistency of the story, the sincerity with which people tell their stories, the power of feelings connected with this, the self-doubt—all the appropriate responses that these people have to their experiences.

NOVA: So tell us, please, how literally you intend people to take this? Are you suggesting people are really being snatched from their beds by aliens and experiments on board a spaceship?

MACK: Just how literally to take this, is one of the most interesting and complex aspects of this. And I want to walk through that as clearly as I can. There are aspects of this which I believe we are justified in taking quite literally. That is, UFOs are in fact observed, filmed on camera at the same time that people are having their abduction experiences.

People, in fact, have been observed to be missing at the time that they are reporting their abduction experiences. They return from their experiences with cuts, ulcers on their bodies, triangular lesions, which follow the distribution of the experiences that they recover, of what was done to them in the craft by the surgical-like activity of these beings.

All of that has a literal physical aspect and is experienced and reported with appropriate feeling, by the abductees, with or without hypnosis or a relaxation exercise.

....There is a—I believe, a gradation of experiences and that go from the most literal physical kinds of hurts, wounds, person removed, spacecraft that can be photographed, to experiences which are more psychological, spiritual, involve the extension of consciousness. The difficulty for our society and for our mentality is, we have a kind of either/or mentality. It's either, literally physical; or it's in the spiritual other realm, the unseen realm. What we seem to have no place for—or we have lost the place for—are phenomena that can begin in the unseen realm, and cross over and manifest and show up in our literal physical world.

Read the rest HERE.


9 posted on 06/26/2013 9:29:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RoosterRedux
I agree.

I will make jokes with others about UFOs but I do believe there is something going on. What convinced me was my brother, a Marine Corp radio operator in Japan. Many of the marines on the base saw the UFO and the base lost power for nearly half an hour during the sighting.

BTW:don't look for this sighting on Google or anywhere else-it was never reported (to the press) and the guys on base were all ordered to keep their mouths shut.
Oh Yeah, it happened in the late 60s.

10 posted on 06/26/2013 9:36:42 AM PDT by Larry381 ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
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To: Larry381

Yep. I know a military pilot who simply says “no comment” when the subject is broached.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 9:42:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: Larry381

I have an uncle who unknowingly verified one of the “unsolved” Project Blue Book sightings (6721 April 17, 1960 Richards, Gebaur AB, Missouri). That sold me.


12 posted on 06/26/2013 11:22:19 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: RoosterRedux

I really wish a British TV production company would reboot the series U.F.O. Maybe a US production company, but using British actors.


13 posted on 06/26/2013 12:45:09 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: RoosterRedux

That photo comparison is spooky!


14 posted on 06/26/2013 1:18:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Gots to have the purple hair and silver miniskirts...http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QWqNnJG-GPM/UU2w6zaXfRI/AAAAAAAAPq8/Y6bsm4TnL3w/s640/ufo_ellis_corridor.jpg ....or I ain’t watchin’.


15 posted on 06/26/2013 1:22:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

Yep. And the really ugly one—the one with the bad wig—gives me nightmares.


16 posted on 06/26/2013 1:25:49 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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