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Man-of-the-Cloth in Five-Finger Discount
June 24, 2013 | Doc Savage

Posted on 06/24/2013 7:17:53 AM PDT by Doc Savage

I frequently meet friends at Panera in the morning. For the past five years, almost every morning, a minister at a local church walks in. He always carries a large drink cup that he hides in his pant's pocket or down at his side. He grabs a USA Today from the stand near the door, moves to a table and sits down.

He reads the paper for a minute or two to establish he's in the building, then walks over to the iced tea dispenser and fills it up. Then he takes six or seven pieces of lemon and squeezes them in. He returns to the table, drinks and reads for a few more minutes, refills, and then walks out with the paper and his cup. Next day is a repeat.

I spoke the manager several years ago but she was totally disinterested. I guess they just accept the loss. My friends and I, however, pay every morning for our drinks and would never steal a newspaper.

What's happening to America when ministers are stealing? Have we sunk this low?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: morality; religion; shoplifting; theft; vanity

1 posted on 06/24/2013 7:17:53 AM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: Doc Savage

Ah, you’ve spotted a liberal minister. The same dork that’ll preach for open borders, gay priests, etc. etc.

Typical liberal slime.


2 posted on 06/24/2013 7:22:57 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Doc Savage

You find bad people in every occupation in every walk of life.

There are Bad Accountants.
Bad Cops
Bad Bus Drivers
Bad Mechanics
Bad Talk Show Hosts
Bad Ministers

Heck, look at some of the absolute human rabble my own Catholic Church has had to contend with in the Priesthood.


3 posted on 06/24/2013 7:23:06 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Doc Savage

Publicly confront him loud enough for everyone else in the joint to hear.


4 posted on 06/24/2013 7:25:35 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: Doc Savage

I would confront him with it

take video if you have it

Ask him if he teaches others to steal? Does he have a boss?
Tell the boss.

I saw a cop do this in Tucson- A huge black guy (race is not important, just the visual aid) He walked into the 7-11, without saying so much as a “HI” walked over to the squishy dispenser and helped himself to a large, and walked out the door.

I was disgusted, the clerk behind the counter looked too intimidated to say a word.


5 posted on 06/24/2013 7:26:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Doc Savage

Bump for later


6 posted on 06/24/2013 7:26:49 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Doc Savage

Ask him if “thou shalt not steal” is still a relevant commandment. If he says yes, then ask him why he steals tea and the newspapers? If he says no, then ask him why he is a minister. What DOES he stand for?


7 posted on 06/24/2013 7:29:52 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Invite the local TV station, or if they don’t want to show up, just get a friend with a video camera and a windbreaker to act like he’s “official”, then pop the “Thou Shall Not Steal” question on him. Post the video on Youtube and hand out flyers with the URL in front of his churck.

Better yet, if you really want to be nasty (?), send a note to his church saying there’s been an accident at the Panera and you need someone who can identify him ASAP. Then he’d be publicly humiliated in front of someone he probably respects.


8 posted on 06/24/2013 7:37:08 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Mr. K
Ask him if he teaches others to steal? Does he have a boss? Tell the boss.

Hah! ... And tell him if his "Boss" (the over-Shepherd) decides to fire him, he will be really 'fired' (or fried) ... for eternity...

9 posted on 06/24/2013 7:37:22 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Doc Savage
I spoke the manager several years ago but she was totally disinterested. I guess they just accept the loss

Forget the manager. Tell other patrons and confront the schmuck.

10 posted on 06/24/2013 7:42:08 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Doc Savage

Apparently you are pretty familiar with the minister. I’ve got to ask, what denomination is he from?


11 posted on 06/24/2013 7:47:43 AM PDT by Perseverando (It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Doc Savage

I know it might be intimidating to confront him, but its for his good. I see many good responses here, but if you are a Christian, I think you should do it in love. Go and tell him softly that you’ve seen him do this. Then if he doesn’t stop, involve another.
I know that this would be really irritating, but don’t shout him down at first, like the aliens in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.


12 posted on 06/24/2013 7:48:49 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: Mr. K
I saw a cop do this in Tucson- A huge black guy (race is not important, just the visual aid) He walked into the 7-11, without saying so much as a “HI” walked over to the squishy dispenser and helped himself to a large, and walked out the door.

I was disgusted, the clerk behind the counter looked too intimidated to say a word.

I did an evening ride along with a cop in D.C. many years ago. The cop stopped into a 7-11 for a free cup of coffee. He told me they gave out free coffee to cops because they were happy to have some occasional police presence in the store. It was in a bad area of D.C.

13 posted on 06/24/2013 7:52:28 AM PDT by Perseverando (It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando

I understand that, and applaud that- and I would do it myself too- but the way he just waltzed in and poured himself a drink looked just awful to the people there standing in line.

He should have said “Hello” to the clerk, at minumim


14 posted on 06/24/2013 7:57:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mr. K
Does he have a boss? Tell the boss.

He most certainly has a Boss. And the Boss already knows.

15 posted on 06/24/2013 8:00:53 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Doc Savage

Print a copy of this thread and put it in an envelope. Hand it to him on his way out the door.


16 posted on 06/24/2013 8:03:14 AM PDT by NCcatdaddy
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To: Doc Savage

Quietly approach him, look him in they eye and say that you feel moved to tell him that you’ve been watching him steal coffee and so has God.

Wish him peace and walk away. Let the Holy Spirit do the rest.


17 posted on 06/24/2013 8:05:19 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Doc Savage
Next time he comes in, make a copy and drop one of these on his table. See if he gets the Message:


18 posted on 06/24/2013 8:06:19 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Whew, at least you didn’t mention lawyers!


19 posted on 06/24/2013 8:12:15 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Doc Savage

There is one other possibility. The store management might have made an agreement with the local minister, and this is their little donation to his comfort. Please be sure of your facts before initiating a confrontation.

I have had a similar experience and was embarrassed to learn that it was none of my business.


20 posted on 06/24/2013 8:15:36 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: Doc Savage

The manager is not “disinterested.” She is uninterested.


21 posted on 06/24/2013 8:42:42 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Doc Savage

Anyone can call themselves a minister.

God knows who the real ones are.


22 posted on 06/24/2013 8:44:54 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Mr. K

It’s not at all unusual for local businesses to offer freebies to cops on the beat. The businesses like the visual for the benefit of potential burglars.


23 posted on 06/24/2013 8:48:48 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Doc Savage

Not too long ago my husband and I were having dinner at a family type restaurant, the kind where a container on the table holds little tubs of jellies, jams and honey.
At the table next to us sat a man and his twenty something daughter. The young woman emptied the container of condiments into her purse and as she did so her father admonished her for stealing. Her reply? “Dad, I’m poor, and they are rich. They owe me.” Dad tried to tell her that did not entitle her to steal but she was having none of it.
God sees what the minister is doing. Let Him handle it.


24 posted on 06/24/2013 8:56:21 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Doc Savage

I have noticed that people who do things like this are a combination of lit dynamite and porcupine quills when they are confronted. They have thoroughly justified it in their own minds, based on post-modern principles of relative truth. They will react with an explosion of profanity, get in your face, and condemn you for your intrusion, casting aspersions on your ancestry, intelligence, appearance and life choices. Be prepared.


25 posted on 06/24/2013 9:03:44 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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26 posted on 06/24/2013 9:51:13 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: Mr. K; Perseverando

Honest cops shouldn’t accept all the gifts and bribes that the retail people offer them, I used to raise cain in restaurants when I saw this where the cops just received their food and take out for free, I even got to the point of letting the cops know what I thought of it.

This is corruption and like the broken window syndrome, it is rust that has no good, only bad comes from it.


27 posted on 06/24/2013 11:05:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: EDINVA

You just described a situation where one merchant gets a unionized government cop walking in, altering his beat, in exchange for 10 or 20 dollars worth of goods, while the honest merchant doesn’t.

On day one, someone less scrupulous might say that no real harm was done, the cop only sold out for one day, and the merchant might not have been thinking of it as a bribe, but this can, and has, become part of the cop system, and involves vast amounts of money around the nation, and it shapes what cops do, and where they do it at, and it creates a tit for tat (compensation) mentality.


28 posted on 06/24/2013 11:13:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: Doc Savage

Is there an update? Did you take up any of the suggestions?


29 posted on 06/28/2013 3:00:02 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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