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Redstone radar blob: 'Whatever it was' versus what we know it wasn't
AL.com ^ | June 06, 2013 | Lee Roop

Posted on 06/06/2013 11:01:27 AM PDT by WayneM

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama - Whatever Tuesday's Redstone radar blob was, it was unlike anything most professional radar watchers have ever seen. Speculation has centered on secret defense testing at Redstone Arsenal, and the University of Alabama in Huntsville has said it has found feathery pieces of fiberglass near the area. All this has led Huntsville scientists to be discreet in their public speculation so far in deference to national security. But they are shedding more light on an event that exploded on radar like a thunderstorm, spread nearly 10 miles wide and a mile high, and lasted for nine hours - all while being virtually invisible to the naked eye.

Matt Havin and Dr. Michael Lawton, meteorologists at Huntsville's Baron Services Inc., watched the blob on multiple radars at their operations center in Cummings Research Park. Company founder Bob Baron, a former television meteorologist, invented and developed the first tornado-tracking technology for television forecasters, and his company works with TV stations and companies nationwide. In an interview Wednesday about the blob, Havin first listed "what we know it's not"

1. A thunderstorm or rain. There was no rain in the area.

2. Bats, birds or insects. "Bats or birds tend to have a (radar) signature that expands rapidly," Havin said. "We've seen signatures like this with insects before, but usually it's not this size or this duration."

3. The 1,000 ladybugs released by the Huntsville Botanical Garden to fight aphids.

4. Typical small fragments of military chaff (radar countermeasures). Generally, Havin said, military chaff is carried by upper-level winds in bands. "Typically chaff signatures are released by aircraft," Lawton said. "That's why they have a long, sort of elongated signature. This did not look like that."

5. Dust. "It wasn't that," Havin said, "otherwise we'd see signatures like that in the Plains all the time at harvest time, and we don't."

7. Smoke. "Out of any of the potential causes," Havin said, "smoke is what this most closely looks like if it wasn't going to be a severe thunderstorm. But to have a signature of this size and strength, you'd have to go from nothing to an extreme forest fire almost instantaneously. And you'd see a lot of smoke, which we did not."

6-8. Radiation, jamming (which has an on-off signature), or a bad Huntsville Utilities substation.

Here's what the two meteorlogists can say about "whatever it was," in Havin's words.

1. It was suspended in the air for about nine hours, started on the north side of Redstone Arsenal just after 1:30 p.m. and ended around 11 p.m. (CDT). "That's a very long time for something to be hanging around," Havin said.

2. All the radar signatures "had to occur between the surface of the ground and about 5,500 feet above the ground above Redstone Arsenal."

3. It was greater than 8-10 miles in diameter for "most of the duration."

4. "It was pluming." The source was apparently sending up either multiple or almost continual releases of "whatever it was from very low elevation or from the ground. It shot up from the surface or a very low level," Havin said.

5. It showed up on different radar frequencies, including the S-band radar used by the National Weather Service and the C-band radar used by one local TV station.

Neither Havin nor Lawton, a Phd research meteorologist, has ever seen anything like this on radar. But despite that, what did people at Baron Services see when they went outside Tuesday to look? "It wasn't anything obvious," Havin said


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To: WayneM

Cicadas?


41 posted on 06/06/2013 11:55:36 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ("God bless Planned Parenthood"- B.H.Obama, 2013)
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To: stormer

...or a swarm of locusts......


42 posted on 06/06/2013 11:56:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX-fLxAMsMk


43 posted on 06/06/2013 11:58:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: WayneM

Somebody had to emergency drop their chemtrail material.

Everyone under that will be dead in 24 hours.


44 posted on 06/06/2013 12:05:02 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: Ancient Wonderboy

Clearly, that assumption is baked in.


45 posted on 06/06/2013 12:05:02 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: WayneM

This company has a building almost at the epicenter of the radar blob:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyle_Laboratories

Check out their location:

http://goo.gl/maps/wLSoX

From their webpage...

“The Aerospace Group provides independent acquisition, analysis, engineering and technical expertise to government program offices, test teams and aircraft depots. The group enjoys leading positions on a wide range of Department of Defense programs and has played a role in the development of every U.S. Navy aircraft built since 1970, including critical contributions to the F/A-18, E-2, H-60, P-3, and Joint Strike Fighter. The group also provides comprehensive testing and test-related services, test engineering, and acoustics research and consulting services...The CAS Group provides service throughout the Department of Defense, specializing in a full range of weapon system support and analysis. It has comprehensive expertise in all phases of systems engineering and technical assistance. The CAS services sustain theater missile defense, air defense, aviation and land-combat missile systems...It provides skilled personnel and specialized facilities to NASA, the Department of Defense, and numerous international and commercial space partners.”


46 posted on 06/06/2013 12:10:52 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: WayneM

The missing plague of Cicada’s?


47 posted on 06/06/2013 12:17:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"We know they're extremely advanced technologically....

...which suggests - very rightfully so - that they're peaceful."

48 posted on 06/06/2013 12:21:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Mr. K

I *love* that show.

I don’t care *what* they’re talking about, ~somehow~, they manage to tie it to aliens, no matter how painfully tortuous the route.

Better than the Comedy Channel.

[the Vikings were aliens, too]


49 posted on 06/06/2013 12:21:53 PM PDT by Salamander (The only things that last forever are memories and sorrow.)
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To: WayneM

90,000 IRS employees shredding everything and dumping it


50 posted on 06/06/2013 12:37:12 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: WayneM

nanoparticles of carbon


51 posted on 06/06/2013 12:49:43 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Sacajaweau

Or from another source - http://www.waaytv.com/news/local/uah-mysterious-radar-signature-caused-by-chaff/article_5712699c-ce15-11e2-ba9d-0019bb30f31a.html

With the caption, "UAH Severe Weather and Radar research groups picked up this material along Zierdt Road. The material is believed to have caused strange radar signatures detected Tuesday over Redstone Arsenal."

52 posted on 06/06/2013 1:24:50 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: WayneM

Cicadas... Move along; nothing to see here...


53 posted on 06/06/2013 2:17:40 PM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: bgill
"mysterious-radar-signature-caused-by-chaff"

Silly Americans. They'll believe anything their government tells them.

54 posted on 06/06/2013 2:57:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: WayneM

Gorebal Warming ...

For a small fee I can tell you where to send your checks and other donations.

TT


55 posted on 06/06/2013 3:48:43 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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