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Danish Farmer Reverses Illnesses in pigs by reverting to a GM-free diet
Farm Wars ^ | 6/2013 | Dr Eva Sirinathsinghji

Posted on 06/06/2013 6:33:04 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: Boogieman

The sheeperals have a different motivation - to feel good about themselves.

Monsanto is getting special protections from the government - several cases lately.

Even while the sheeperals protest, their elected pols act for Monsanto, and blame republicans.


51 posted on 06/06/2013 9:21:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

So how exactly is this conspiracy supposed to work? The left is pushing to give Monsanto special protections, but the left is also demonizing and trying to ban Monsanto products? I’m still struggling to understand how in the world that is supposed to make sense.


52 posted on 06/06/2013 9:31:12 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: surroundedbyblue
Monsanto’s junk products are overtaking the market due to their legislative & judicial protection.

You're lying and, yet again, proving to anyone who cares that you are horrendously misinformed about this company, and their products, as is humanly possible.

Monsanto is successful because people willingly purchase their products and services. Unless you're trying to claim that you are smarter (you're not) than all the millions upon millions of people who freely buy their products, because they create value, then you're just another anti-capitalist windbag who knows nothing about how free markets work.

53 posted on 06/06/2013 9:42:23 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Boogieman

You don’t understand because you conflate the sheeperals with the leftists in power.
They are not one group. They have different primary motivations.

Sheeperals seek to feel good about themselves as good people - nothing else.
Leftist control freaks seek to control their fellow human.


54 posted on 06/06/2013 9:44:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Renfield

Without modern crop genetics last year; the 100 degree heat in the Midwest would have cooked the corn and soybean crops.

How many millions of deaths would be acceptable so the anti science people would be happy?

Same junk science as global warming.


55 posted on 06/06/2013 9:46:02 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: Boogieman

Some corporations lefties bash are deserved of the bashing.

Corps who use the their influence w Gov’t to manipulate markets are not free-marketeers.


56 posted on 06/06/2013 9:50:06 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: MrB
Monsanto is getting special protections from the government - several cases lately.

It's a common claim that the facts never seem to support. The alleged case against Monsanto is based on emotion, not facts.

If they do happen to receive any benefits from government that you don't approve of, that's the fault of government, isn't it? Given that a large number of corporations receive the same kinds of benefits from exercising their Constitutional right to petition the government, don't you think it's unfair to selectively target Monsanto.....like the left?

57 posted on 06/06/2013 9:51:42 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Corps who use the their influence w Gov’t to manipulate markets are not free-marketeers.

How exactly is Monsanto manipulating these markets? This is a common claim that I've yet to see proven.

58 posted on 06/06/2013 9:53:35 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Corps who use the their influence w Gov’t to manipulate markets are not free-marketeers.

How exactly is Monsanto manipulating these markets? This is a common claim that I've yet to see proven.

59 posted on 06/06/2013 9:53:36 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: slowhandluke

bkmk


60 posted on 06/06/2013 9:54:26 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: MrB

You’re still not making sense. The leftists with power, not the “sheeperal”, are villifying Monsanto and trying to use the legislative power of government against them. How does that square with these same leftists, according to you, giving special protection to Monsanto?


61 posted on 06/06/2013 10:28:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

“Corps who use the their influence w Gov’t to manipulate markets are not free-marketeers.”

Who cares? Corporations are supposed to make money, not support free market values. To expect them to do so is just foolish. Monsanto also isn’t any exceptional case when it comes to lobbying the government for special favors. I think you’d be hard pressed to find a major company that doesn’t do that.


62 posted on 06/06/2013 10:31:15 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

You’re right, who cares. You missed my point though, which was “Supporting Corps is not the same thing as supporting Free Markets and vice versa.”


63 posted on 06/06/2013 11:27:55 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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Alright, but what do you call reflexively bashing corporations that happen to be the left’s target of the moment? Is that supporting the free market?

Today it’s Monsanto, tomorrow Walmart, Halliburton, Microsoft, Chik-Fil-A, ad nauseam.


64 posted on 06/06/2013 1:13:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
What's truly amazing is that none of the anti-Monsanto crowd seems able or willing to articulate exactly what it is that makes Monsanto so reprehensible. Reflexively bashing, indeed.

From what I read it looks like Monsanto:

Bastards. They're Satan personified, I tell ya.

65 posted on 06/06/2013 1:55:18 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

Yeah, but science is hard.


66 posted on 06/06/2013 3:10:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Renfield

Interesting.


67 posted on 06/06/2013 3:27:14 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Mase

Well, the most legitimate sounding points I’ve heard are just that they lobby the government to get favorable legislation (like every other company and industry) and try to get a chunk of our tax money (also like every other company and industry).

Sure, those may be legitimate concerns, but what makes Monsanto special in that regard that they deserved to be targeted for our ire? Why not an oil company or a pharmaceutical company? And why are all of the “hit piece” style articles focused on the sensational, but unsubstantiated accusations related to food safety and unethical practices, instead of these run of the mill complaints that might actually be legitimate?


68 posted on 06/06/2013 6:17:09 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mase

After being termed a luddite by you in the past, I did some research on Mosanto. You are correct. They have done some great things in the past and continue to do so. They have and still make some great products. But, like other companies, they have had some issues with one or two of their products. So for the sake of the GMO argument, let’s take Monsanto completely out of the picture.

Now, let say you have a passion of not buying products made in countries other than America. However the label showing that the product was Made in China is not required (The Textile Fiber Products Identification Act). You want to buy only American made items. Let’s say for the sake of the argument that Nike has some, but not all of their products, made in China. You go in to buy some Nikes. And you buy the shoes thinking they were made in the US. You will never know. But by having been made in China, American jobs are lost and child labor may have been used to make this product. Don’t you, as a consumer, have the right to know where a product was made?

Given this example, is it not more important to know what you put in your body more important than what you wear? GMO is an amazing process. So what is the problem with labeling a food that uses ingredients made with this amazing process? The companies should be proud of this process and should say so.

Maybe I don’t want to drink milk made from cows that have been given rBGH. One of the local chains has “rBGH” free on all of their milk cartons. That is what I buy. Am I a bad person for doing this?

What if the maker of Advil thought “You know we don’t need to be put the actual ingredient on the package of Advil. We know more about pain relief than the common folk do.”

Can we not compare the same argument to GMO made food to those examples listed above?

Signed, the “Coolaid drinking luddite” ;-)


69 posted on 06/06/2013 7:20:20 PM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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