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The Differences Between Negative and Positive Rights
The Shadow Review ^ | 5/15/2013 | David Focil

Posted on 05/16/2013 3:42:29 PM PDT by d_focil

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To: KrisKrinkle

the rights existed long before the govt.

the governmental framework was established to help sort issues between citizens and promote an orderly society.

you have a ‘right’ to a speedy trial as the govt is expected to sort out the issues as part of its duties.

in this case, the ‘right’ is expecting the govt, an entity we all pay for, to do its job.


21 posted on 05/19/2013 8:13:28 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

“the rights existed long before the govt.”

Are you saying that the inhabitants of the Americas had “...the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed...” before Columbus arrived in the Americas? Before the Americas were known as the Americas?

Are you saying that the Jews who wandered in the desert for 40 years, led by Moses, had “...the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed...”?

Are you saying that the people who built Stonehenge 4-5 thousand years ago had “...the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed...”?


22 posted on 05/19/2013 10:08:08 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

if you believe in the US Constitution ... yes

the rights existed... they were just denied / repressed by the govt at the time. this would also be true today in other countries

again... if you believe in the Constitution... which doesn’t sound like you do


23 posted on 05/20/2013 4:46:42 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“again... if you believe in the Constitution... which doesn’t sound like you do”

I believe in the Constitution; I don’t believe you.


24 posted on 05/20/2013 8:21:54 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

really.

were you endowed by your Creator with certain unalienable Rights? do you think he just started dishing them out in 1776?

of course not... and that’s the whole point.


25 posted on 05/20/2013 12:31:27 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“were you endowed by your Creator with certain unalienable Rights?”

Yes

“do you think he just started dishing them out in 1776?”

No

“of course not... and that’s the whole point.”

Disagree.


26 posted on 05/20/2013 1:43:16 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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