Posted on 05/05/2013 6:40:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
If you look at the a debt comparison of those in their early 20’s today and the same a couple of decades back, you see they have just about the same debt load, but the earlier group held credit card debt instead of government backed and subsidized student loan debt.
Hey except for some small square miles of Philly/Pittsburgh/part of suburbs - the REST of PA is quite RED.
Great, my daughter is a senior at Springfield College. But she already has a job in her major. So...I guess it doesn’t pertain to her. Much.
Good spuds though. I used to have to go up there once a year for the bank I worked for. A long, long drive from Portland. I had no idea Maine was that large.
You are right that not everyone can pay for their kid’s education. But at some point reality needs to set in, the government and academia has been preaching that all kids deserve/need a college education and it is just not true. Many would be happier without college, going to a trade school or working in a field where they can work their way up with OJT.
I don’t see college as a need unless the career chosen requires it, then if the student wants it bad enough they can make it happen. College for the sake of going, getting a nonsense degree makes no sense. Starting at a community college, working their way through- taking few to no loans is the way to go. It is not the way people are programmed these days but it is possible and smarter.
Libs are hung up on fairness. Life is just not fair, no matter how you cut it. Being realistic goes against the tide now.
Same goes for CA.
It’s almost always the huge cities that carry the states.
Yep - at an average of 100K per year over 30 years for a EE degree - 3Million. Not hard math really. I haven’t seen a college degree yet that costs 1 million dollars (thinking of Austin Powers as I type that). At 200K+ though for many private Universities...what is the point.
As an EE I can tell you that no-one has been concerned about the university I attended or my GPA for over 30 years. They only cared at my first job... after that it has been what was on my resume.
No I didn’t - it’s just that I’m surrounded!
I hear you!
It’s he// to be surrounded.
A good list. I wouldn’t step foot in any of those. I feel I went to reasonable Florida State for my Bachelors and George Washington for my Master’s. No debt at all. Paid as I went. I do not have any interest in getting a PHD.
” “University of Maine at Presque Isle”
LOL! Save the tuition and take a vacation there instead!”
Apologies to iowamark. U of Maine at PI is in extreme northeast Maine. No vacationers in summer (they flock to Maine’s coast, hundreds of miles south); few in winter - winter sports stuff is south and west. Presque Isle is closer to more Canadian cities than US ones. Aroostook County is noted more for potatoes and blueberries.
Loring Air Force Base (closed 1994) was there only because of WWII: as the closest point in continental US to Europe, it was USAAF’s final refueling stop for aircraft on the long haul that Theater.
RE: Hey except for some small square miles of Philly/Pittsburgh/part of suburbs - the REST of PA is quite RED.
If the above is true, here are the possibilities as to what happened in 2012:
1) The rest of RED PA have smaller voting populations combined compared to Philly + Pittsburgh.
OR
2) Voter fraud in Philly + Pittsburgh overcame the rest of PA
OR
3) Too many apathetic voters in RED PA. Most did not bother to vote.
Just wonder how these figures will hold up...as we continue to send good high-paying science and engineering jobs out of America....and bring in poorly educated and prepared Third Worlders to fill similar positions in the US.
An engineering or science degree will lose value as long as we continue open borders and bad free trade deals. Soon we will see ROI for science and math majors similar to those of 16th Century English Art Criticism majors.
I was at NC State back in the late 70’s/early 80’s.
Meredith College, along with Peace College and St. Mary’s College, served chiefly to place eligible females in close proximity to male Engineering students.
Now, if you were a Mechanical (God's Cresent wrenches), you'd have taken an Engineering Econ class and know that $100k over 30 years isn't worth $3 million...
Raw tuition rates can be misleading - some expensive schools can have very generous grant and scholarship packages. Also, as others have mentioned, ROI would depend heavily on your major.
Define which year is the base year. Whoops, I did. The Austin Powers reference seems lost on you.
Yes, the potatoes WERE good. But Northern Maine has been suffering a brain drain since at LEAST the 1940s, and no longer has Loring AFB to bring in fresh blood.
Presque Isle, Caribou, and Limestone weren’t bad, but some of the more outlying towns, Fort Fairfield comes to mind, the inbreeding was beginning to get REALLY obvious. The running joke was, “At night, you can HEAR the genes crunching. . . “
I gather that basically all the negative ROI schools are for rich, libtard kids.
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