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Prof Peter Higgs: Boson is not ‘God’ particle (offended by name because he’s atheist)
The Scotsman ^ | Monday 8 April 2013 00:00 | Clare McKim

Posted on 04/09/2013 1:30:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Scots scientist Professor Peter Higgs has urged the public to stop calling the Higgs boson the “God particle”—because he is an atheist.

The scientist came up with the theory of a sub-atomic particle, since dubbed the Higgs boson, which would explain the mystery of how things have mass.

But he wants people to stop referring to it as the “God particle” because he does not believe the particle holding the physical fabric of the universe together is the work of an almighty creator. …

(Excerpt) Read more at scotsman.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: atheism; godparticle; higgsboson; peterhiggs; stringtheory

1 posted on 04/09/2013 1:30:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

2 posted on 04/09/2013 1:37:09 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Olog-hai
As an Atheist I can say he's an idiot.Nothing would please me more than for there to be real scientific proof of a “God”.
3 posted on 04/09/2013 1:38:53 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD

Most atheists I have interacted with are people who are angry with God. With them, it’s not a matter of whether He exists or not. If God did exist, they would spend their time wishing Him away.


4 posted on 04/09/2013 1:51:27 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: BigCinBigD

It is the sign of a closed mind, that cannot accept the new conclusion when a more encompassing theory is introduced. Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as “settled science”, that even the most well-reasoned and supported hypothesis is subject to review and critical analysis, and should be considered with doubt in mind. Meanwhile, once some theorem has been articulated, nothing at all prevents that partial analysis from being applied in engineering terms, and therefore of practical use for human understanding of the Universe.

Otherwise we would still be living in trees and grazing off the casual fruits discovered by accident while swinging from limb to limb of those trees. Curiosity is a precious commodity.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 1:52:19 AM PDT by alloysteel (Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.)
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To: Olog-hai

This is just a dumb squabble about a dumb media tag.

The Higgs Boson isn’t the ‘God’ particle. It didn’t create the universe. It didn’t become Flesh and dwell among us. It cannot forgive sins.

The Higgs Boson is an amazing element of Gods creation. Let’s focus on that.


6 posted on 04/09/2013 2:11:58 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Olog-hai
How does it explain how things have mass?

These morons know nothing.

They say the universe was smaller than an atom then exploded in the big bang and became larger than a galaxy in one trillionth trillionth of a second. they have no explanation why or how this big bang occurred.

They scientists also told us global warming was real. that has been proven a hoax . there is no warming.

7 posted on 04/09/2013 2:22:15 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Olog-hai

The roots of atheism are almost always moral not intellectual.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 2:35:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Jonty30

A lot of those calling themselves “atheist” have a negative obsession with the idea of God. They dwell on it so much, in fact, that I wonder how they can claim they don’t believe in God. They’ll blame God for all their problems on the one hand, and on the other claim he doesn’t exist. A bizarre condition in my opinion.


9 posted on 04/09/2013 2:43:56 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Olog-hai

The “God particle” was actually coined in a book about the search for the elusive particle. It was not a reference to religion per se, just making use of a metaphor. Mr. Higgs is being way too sensitive.

However, there is an interesting analogy to be made from this term. Without the Higgs field (of which the Higgs boson is only the force carrier), there would be no matter in the universe, only energy. Energy cannot interact with itself, only matter by way of the Pauli exclusion principal. So without the “God particle”, appearing some time after the Big Bang, the universe would be a uniform sea of energy, void and without form.


10 posted on 04/09/2013 2:55:57 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Olog-hai
But he wants people to stop referring to it as the “God particle” because he does not believe the particle holding the physical fabric of the universe together is the work of an almighty creator. …

Then what is it the work of?

11 posted on 04/09/2013 3:09:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Olog-hai

Uh oh. Another pin-head atheist is offended.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 3:20:07 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Olog-hai
If he isn't already, he should definitely spend every moment awake for the rest of his life in long droning speeches giving his particle a catchy, yet nonscientific name.
13 posted on 04/09/2013 3:41:56 AM PDT by stevem
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To: circlecity
The roots of atheism are almost always moral not intellectual.

And your scientific sampling of this is...?

14 posted on 04/09/2013 3:51:54 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Jonty30
Most atheists I have interacted with are people who are angry with God.

It is odd that many atheists seem to have such an emotional investment in what they term as a mythical being.

Why invest so much energy in battle with people you think foolish for believing in a mythical being. Unless a person is trying to evangelize you why discuss God at all. I certainly do not spend time discussing or thinking of the existence of Zeus.

Speaking of evangelism; why the evangelistic fervor for so many atheist? Why does it bother them so much for another person to believe in God?

15 posted on 04/09/2013 4:07:29 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Olog-hai

Shall we call it the A-hole Atheist particle instead?


16 posted on 04/09/2013 4:15:44 AM PDT by UncleHambone ("Laughter is America's most important export." - Walt Disney)
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To: Olog-hai

OK. Than it’s the “butt head” particle.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 4:56:44 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: Olog-hai

“the particle holding the physical fabric of the universe together”

So that’s it! The one particle responsible for it all.

And when do they discover the next important particle that explains it all?


18 posted on 04/09/2013 5:19:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Vaquero
"And your scientific sampling of this is...?"

Truth transcends the empirical.

19 posted on 04/09/2013 5:28:04 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Mr. Higgs is being way too sensitive

Perhaps they should name it after him, and call it the "a-hole" particle.

20 posted on 04/09/2013 5:40:56 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: UncleHambone
Shall we call it the A-hole Atheist particle instead?

Ha, great minds think alike. Sorry, but I didn't scroll down far enough to see your post, before I posted mine...same idea!

21 posted on 04/09/2013 5:42:26 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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“A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.”
-C.S. Lewis

22 posted on 04/09/2013 5:43:46 AM PDT by Heartlander (Practice make perfect if you mess up a few letters)
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To: Olog-hai

It will now be INDELIBLY ETCHED in my conversation as the God Particle


23 posted on 04/09/2013 5:44:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Olog-hai

I read this in my high school AP Physics class. It's apparently been referenced as the "God particle" for a long time.

Interesting read, by the way. In-depth without being ridiculously over-technical.

24 posted on 04/09/2013 5:48:48 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: circlecity
“And your scientific sampling of this is...?”
Truth transcends the empirical.

No you did not pose your statement...

...The roots of atheism are almost always moral not intellectual

from any scripture...it is not posted anywhere in them. You pulled that as a 'fact' out of the air...don't try to say it is one of the lost commandments, or possibly from the gospel of some obscure disciple or some such...it is an opinion of yours no more, no less...

25 posted on 04/09/2013 5:53:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero
"it is not posted anywhere in them."

It is not a quote but it is contained everywhere in there. Keep reading until you understand the whole counsel of God. He may choose to open your eyes.

26 posted on 04/09/2013 5:57:19 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I believe in a creator.

the scriptures are another matter.


27 posted on 04/09/2013 6:03:56 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

The scriptures tell us the evidence for a creator is plain and can be seen by all..... we see it in the creation. Do you agree with that part of scripture?


28 posted on 04/09/2013 6:14:05 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: kjam22

a stopped (analog) clock is right twice a day


29 posted on 04/09/2013 6:20:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

But it’s only right for a second. So if part of the scripture says the evidence of a creator is plain for all to see.... you agree with that part I assume? That part was written 2000 years ago. That’s a lot of seconds. I would bet there are other parts of scripture that you would agree with too.


30 posted on 04/09/2013 6:24:15 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: Olog-hai

It doesn’t fit the bill. The God particle would be THE fundamental building block that all things were made of. The Higgs boson isn’t.


31 posted on 04/09/2013 6:27:49 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Pontiac

Yes...I agree.

A TRUE “atheist” wouldn’t care.

Your example of “Zeus” is a very good one.

And even if there were a segment of the population who insisted upon worshiping Zeus and believing upon him for their salvation, I would probably share my Faith with them in love, but not be ‘offended” by their persistence in their “Zeusianity”. It is, after all, a free country...so far.

Of course, if Zeusianity became the State Religion, and if I were forbidden to practice MINE, there WOULD be a problem.

Whichs brings a question.

Would Biggs be offended if his boson were dubbed “The Zeus Particle”?


32 posted on 04/09/2013 6:39:23 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Vaquero
"I believe in a creator.the scriptures are another matter."

sripture says that is a moral issue also.

33 posted on 04/09/2013 6:45:19 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rurgan; Revolting cat!
They say the universe was smaller than an atom then exploded in the big bang and became larger than a galaxy in one trillionth trillionth of a second. they have no explanation why or how this big bang occurred.

If it happened once, it could happen again. Maybe it'll happen again in the next 5 minutes and we can take notes this time.

34 posted on 04/09/2013 7:06:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: left that other site

Ask him if the names of the planets Mars or Jupiter or Venus “offends” him.


35 posted on 04/09/2013 7:06:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Heartlander

And that’s written by a one-time atheist too (although how you can “become” atheist at age 15 confuses me a bit). He got his head turned around by Tolkien . . .


36 posted on 04/09/2013 7:08:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Well guess what professor - people are going to call the thing what they call it regardless of what you may wish for.

Secondly is he mad because of his feelings about God or is he mad because in using the term his own name is omitted? Or could it be a little of both?

My advice to Prof. Higgs - Get over it.


37 posted on 04/09/2013 7:10:16 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: a fool in paradise

Good Point!

We have Planets, Cars, Cities, Motorcycles, Diseases, comic book characters, and body parts named for Ancient Mythical Gods.

He doesn’t seem to be offended by any of THEM.

Although he MIGHT be offended by Uranus.(smirk)


38 posted on 04/09/2013 7:10:55 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: Olog-hai

I always thought the “god (small g) particle” was physicists way of saying there was no “God.”


39 posted on 04/09/2013 7:48:10 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: circlecity

I follow the commandments where my day to day interaction with the rest of mankind is concerned.

It is a good set of rules to live by.


40 posted on 04/09/2013 9:30:19 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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41 posted on 04/11/2013 7:38:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: UncleHambone

Call it the gluon which holds dimension space together with dimension time ... oh wait, gluon has already been taken.


42 posted on 04/11/2013 8:03:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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Professor Higgs speaks out against the name ‘God particle’
By Julian Gavaghan | Yahoo! News – Tue, Apr 9, 2013
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/professor-higgs-speaks-out-against-the-name—god-particle-—095113715.html


43 posted on 04/12/2013 4:01:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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