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Stop sending US jobs to China. Bring back US jobs which were exported. (Now)
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Posted on 04/06/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

OK just raising the topic, lest we get too concerned with North Korea and forget about everything else.

China is now the largest exporter in the world.

China now makes row, after row, after row of manufactured goods which used to be made in the United States, when we have an unemployment rate closer to 5%. Our actual unemployment rate is now more line 15%.

NEITHER PARTY is doing squat, about this.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: frustrated; misc; vanity
The time has come for a new approach.

China is becoming bigger strategically than America.

This is increasing. We are shrinking.

The end result of this will mean, all else being the same: China takes over the world.

Now I'm not saying that will happen.

But I'm no longer, pretending it away. China is growing larger than America. Right now.

Get with the program. Stop sending American jobs to China, and bring back those which have been sent.

If necessary to bring back manufacturing, use the tax code to inject reason to the system.

Thanks for your thoughts.

:D

1 posted on 04/06/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Wereally do have to bring these jobs back. The H1B people need the work!


2 posted on 04/06/2013 9:24:05 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If necessary to bring back manufacturing, use the tax code to inject reason to the system.

There is good ways to do this and bad. Using the tax code to penalize imports (thus making goods and services more expensive) will do nothing but continue to harm domestic production.

However, reducing taxes and regulations- the things that make it difficult to do business in the US at a reasonable cost structure, is what is needed.

When it gets down to it though, it has a lot to do with us. What are we choosing to buy? I am just as guilty as the rest in not looking where something is made before I buy it. I just decided to glance at the shirt I was ironing for today, and what should be the American of American brands, Ralph Lauren, was made in Hong Kong.

I know people have been saying Buy USA for a long time but how many people really do it?

3 posted on 04/06/2013 9:24:12 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And just how to you intend to change the global economy?

While you are at it, lower the oceans by building a sand castle on a beach somewhere...


4 posted on 04/06/2013 9:27:29 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What is most interesting is that this most obvious and needful of things is never mentioned in the news. Front page stories about the far more important issues of gay marriage and the evils of guns crowd out less important thing like the fact that jobs a becoming nonexistent for so many Americans.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 9:27:39 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: freedumb2003

What we need are revisions to our tax code.

I’m not suggesting specifics.

But we need to treat imports different from domestically made products.

Taxes need to be higher on imports.

Period.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 9:29:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your right, lack of Jobs is a major problem in this country.

The fact that people can also live for years off of welfare and all the various helper programs is also a major problem.

One breeds despair, the other irresponsible behavior and those lucky enough to have jobs get to pay for it all.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 9:30:29 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>>Taxes need to be higher on imports.<<

Tariff wars have always ended badly for everyone.

They don’t work.

Next idea?


8 posted on 04/06/2013 9:31:48 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: desertfreedom765

I agree.

However we need to bring back jobs at least at the same time.

The jobs, and the welfare, need to (both) be dealt with.

But the jobs need to come back right now.

Now.


9 posted on 04/06/2013 9:32:21 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I doubt those jobs will come back as long as unions have a stranglehold on the economy here. Why would any company pay $20 an hour to an employee here when the same job can be done in other countries for mere pennies an hour? And then there are the Cadillac health care plans and pensions funded by these companies. Companies don't have to pay for those in most other countries.

And them there is all that micromanagement by government. Rules and regulations that are impossible to comply with and cost a fortune to implement. No EPA in other countries.

Plus I'm sure Obamacare will also kill jobs here or send them overseas.

If the unions weren't so greedy and government would get out of the way, business would thrive and there would be jobs.

10 posted on 04/06/2013 9:33:04 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: mnehring

The last we thing we need is to “bring them back” Solyndra style.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 9:33:41 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: mnehring
However, reducing taxes and regulations- the things that make it difficult to do business in the US at a reasonable cost structure, is what is needed.

The 60's radicals who have taken over our government might be willing to make Faustian bargains with multi-nationals to maintain their political power, but they sure as hell don't want the likes of us starting any successful new companies. Republicans don't seem to think it's safe, either - they like the degree of control existing regulations give them over upstart competitors to their loyal contributors.

12 posted on 04/06/2013 9:36:19 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: freedumb2003

Tariffs funded the USA for the first 80 years of existence. President Washington signed first tariff act in 1790. I would rather pay a duty on imports than an income tax. A tariff would not be that high as slave coolie labor only “saves” about 5% of the retail price anyway. The social damage to the US is incalculable.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 9:42:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
or, alternatively, we need to abolish the antiquated and inadequate income tax, abolish all tariffs on imports, and use an export tax.

Remember, when we started up this country it was predominantly agricultural, and you had to export mass quantities to earn profits abroad. At the same time, there was little internal domestic manufacturing so you wanted to protect start up industries while encouraging exports of agricultural commodities.

Along the way things changed. Eventually an income tax seemed to make sense simply because so terribly many people were employed, so a small tax on each of them would be an enormous flow of money in the aggregate. Now, with high unemployment an income tax is just ridiculous. If we taxed 100% of incomes there wouldn't be enough to meet government's commitments.

An export tax would raise the price of American goods in foreign markets ~ still, that's not going to wipe out our exports while we retain the advantage of buying pots and pans from the world's lowest cost providers. The big advantage is that foreigners would begin paying America's costs of government!

That, BTW, is much more in line with the classical system that had tributary states paying the lion's share of imperial costs ~ after all, they benefited from the imposition of peace.

14 posted on 04/06/2013 9:44:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fatnotlazy
I doubt those jobs will come back as long as unions have a stranglehold on the economy here.

Unions do NOT have strangle hold on the economy. Less than 7% of the private sector workforce is unionized. The manufacturing sector is slightly higher at 10%. Hardly a stranglehold. Link here to BLS table.

15 posted on 04/06/2013 9:46:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
unless they goto Right to Work States, they aren't coming back...
16 posted on 04/06/2013 9:48:28 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mnehring

Not many.

The problem is, for a long time America was the place everything was made.

So several generations of Americans are just accustomed to things being made in America.

Left. Right. Everyone just presumes, things are made in America.

That is no longer the case. Every country in the world (except America) grows their own industry.

We export jobs as quickly as we can sign the assets away, and fire millions of Americans who then go on welfare.

Welfare is up BIGTIME. Not just because democrats are in charge either. Welfare is up bigtime because the number of jobs in America is constantly SHRINKING.

We as a party are partly responsible for that.

I was formerly very much for “free trade” because I was naive about how it would be implemented. The problem I now see is, it has all been about exporting American jobs.

Now that China has become the world’s leader in exports, I take back my previous support for this policy.

I now am 100% in favor of bringing back American jobs.

If Republicans get with this program now and lead the charge, we will win.

That is, in my view, a BIG “if”.

Stop sleeping GOP.

Bring back US jobs, and restructure our tax code now.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 9:57:10 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Those jobs are gone and are not coming back for many of the reasons listed by others before me.

It would be great if they come back, but they won’t.

America is in a different place than it was in 1950. We are not the dominant power we were back then. Things change.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 10:06:13 AM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Thanks for calling attention to this disgrace. About everything you buy is made with jobs exported from America. Economic patriotism is as important as military patriotism. Putting money before country is to be condemned when unemployment is so extended. We are not oneworlders, we are Americans.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 10:22:34 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
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(We don't need no edjoocayshun, we don't need no thawt kuntroll ...)

20 posted on 04/06/2013 11:02:54 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Start by lowering the corporate tax rate. The economic illiterate marxist Soetoro won't have any of that though.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 12:07:22 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

01. ) Outlaw unions.

02. ) Stop welfare completely and immediately. No more free food. No more free housing. No more free O’phones.

03. ) 01. ) and 02. ) above will drop prices drastically. They riot.....stop the riots.

04. ) Jobs available here.

Problem solved.


22 posted on 04/06/2013 12:28:30 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: central_va
“Tariffs funded the USA for the first 80 years of existence.”
The first 80 years of existence the size of all government spending combined was less than 3.7% of GDP, the GDP was minuscule, and the government consistently ran up huge debts with no way to pay it off. Several times public debt was paid off at a penny on the dollar. The government sold off vast amounts of land to raise revenues.
The list of reasons and excuses for why “funding by tariffs” didn't work then is as long as the history of how we arrived at the all powerful government we have today that sucks up more than half of GDP and is in debt beyond comprehension.
23 posted on 04/06/2013 1:15:58 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The reality is this. 536 men and women in DC have much, much, much more to do with what’s happening in this country than one billion people in China. Our government, with their policies since Clinton have destroyed our credit markets and are now working on destroying the retirement funds of American citizens. Obamacare is far more responsible for job loss/non job creation than China. Capital follows its’ best use and that ain’t America. Regulation and taxation are holding back investment terribly. That’s why, even though I wasn’t a big supporter, I had to support Romney. He understood this, certainly, far better than Clown McCain. I truly believe that Obama is purposely implementing policies to disincentivize investment.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 3:07:56 PM PDT by Scoutdad
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