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ITALY'S HIGHEST CRIMINAL COURT OVERTURNS ACQUITTAL OF AMANDA KNOX AND ORDERS A NEW TRIAL
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Posted on 03/26/2013 2:16:28 AM PDT by SMGFan

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1 posted on 03/26/2013 2:16:28 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

I doubt she returns to Italy anytime soon ...


2 posted on 03/26/2013 2:18:38 AM PDT by 11th_VA (DRONES DON'T KILL, PRESIDENTS KILL ...)
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To: cynwoody
Only Italians that are in the US can be called "WOP". It's the old term for illegal alien.

WOP = With Out Papers

4 posted on 03/26/2013 2:26:13 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SMGFan

Extradite the murdering skank back to Italy, let her pay for what she did to the other girl


5 posted on 03/26/2013 2:27:37 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SMGFan

“Italy’s highest court overturns Amanda Knox acquittal in murder case, orders new trial”

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/26/italy-highest-court-overturns-amanda-knox-acquittal-in-murder-case-orders-new/#ixzz2OdW2Ougm

Is this the article?


6 posted on 03/26/2013 2:27:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: 11th_VA

Knox could be extradited under an agreement between the United States and Italy.


7 posted on 03/26/2013 2:32:26 AM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: cynwoody

FU


8 posted on 03/26/2013 2:34:23 AM PDT by Post5203 (Please name me a sucessfull city or country run by a "person of color".)
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To: tsowellfan
Only Italians that are in the US can be called "WOP". It's the old term for illegal alien.

I express disgust with my Italian heritage. My grandma's parents had the intelligence to come over from the Lake Como region sometime in the 1880's. It's a Darwinian phenomenon, but on a shorter timescale.

9 posted on 03/26/2013 2:37:40 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Regulator

She’s been found not guilty. This high court decision violates the US standard I accept. If you think this “un-acquittal” fair perhaps you should go in her place.


10 posted on 03/26/2013 2:44:40 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Post5203
FU

Thank you sir!

Your tagline transforms your reply into a high compliment!

11 posted on 03/26/2013 2:46:22 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

eff off mayonnaise face


12 posted on 03/26/2013 2:49:41 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: tsowellfan

There are about six or seven explanations for the origin of that slur; the word “Guappo” being the most likely but no one is really sure. Guappo in the neopolitan dialect means thug or bully or bandit. The “G” is very soft sounding to an American ear like a “Y” or a “W”.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 2:50:39 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

She seemed guilty of the crime to me and I have a good knowledge of the evidence. Her acquittal in my opinion was due to favorable press in this country by the likes of NBC GMA, etc.
She has not a leg of US law to stand on if found guilty again and sent back. I could really care less about her if she is found guilty.
The murdered girl deserves justice and that is the Italian courts job here. I’ll be not disappointed with another guilty verdict.


14 posted on 03/26/2013 3:02:24 AM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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To: muir_redwoods

Just review passenger ship lists. Every once in a while you’ll come across an Italian or Irish immigrant with the handwritten word “WOP” where it is suppose to be confirmed that they are carrying the proper documents to come to the United States.


15 posted on 03/26/2013 3:03:30 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: muir_redwoods

“This high court decision violates the US standard I accept.”

And as a caution to anyone going to Europe - most of those countries, Italy included, do not have the “innocent until proven guilty” standard. It is the opposite.


16 posted on 03/26/2013 3:09:05 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: muir_redwoods
This high court decision violates the US standard

The murder wasn't in the U.S.

It was in Italy, and that's their system.

Don't like the local laws, don't go there.

17 posted on 03/26/2013 3:16:42 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: tsowellfan

Then why aren’t the Irish ever referred to with that slur? Guappo seems much more likely.


18 posted on 03/26/2013 3:19:11 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Revelation 911
eff off mayonnaise face

Hey! If it works, it works!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V6vNEDMzgw

19 posted on 03/26/2013 3:19:34 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Regulator

I hope she never leaves the U.S. again. She was unfairly put in fail for four years and was given a trial and found innocent. God Bless this young woman. Stay out of Italy and the EU!!!!


20 posted on 03/26/2013 3:20:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Regulator

I wasn’t arguing law, I was commenting on justice. There’s a difference but it is not apparent to all, I see.


21 posted on 03/26/2013 3:21:55 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

In Tagalog, guapo is male beauty (handsome) .. guapa; female beauty


22 posted on 03/26/2013 3:22:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

That’s taken directly from the Spanish where the same word has thecsame meaning


23 posted on 03/26/2013 3:24:09 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods
I keep reminding my (Filipina) wife;

King Philip, Spain, Philippines .. and the many Spanish words and influence in the language and culture.

NEVER try truth with a proud Fulipina ..

24 posted on 03/26/2013 3:27:04 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: muir_redwoods
Then why aren’t the Irish ever referred to with that slur?

They were in the early 1900s. Atleast here in the northeast.

25 posted on 03/26/2013 3:27:16 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: muir_redwoods

“She’s been found not guilty. This high court decision violates the US standard I accept. If you think this “un-acquittal” fair perhaps you should go in her place.”

LOL! I like that thought! I’m thinking that the Italian government is searching for a distraction that will take the focus off of their sucky economic situation. A tried and true formula when dealing with those low information aka stupid voters.


26 posted on 03/26/2013 3:33:53 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: knarf

Yup, guapo (in spanish) means the same. Handsome. Guappo/Guapo come from the same latin word.

Plural: guapos (sp) and guappi (it)

I never heard anybody refer to a group of italian with... “what a bunch of WOPIES!” :)


27 posted on 03/26/2013 3:35:03 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: SMGFan

I wonder if the Italian CIA will sneak into the USA, and kidnap her for “rendition” back to Italy?


28 posted on 03/26/2013 3:35:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Regulator

And you know she’s guilty because.....? But if she’s guilty of murder, why both with a trial? We’ll just have the White House Basement Drone Corps kill her as she drives to work next week, and save the Italian government the cost of a trial. Much simpler, and no one has to ask silly questions about double jeopardy, especially when attempted by a foreign power.


29 posted on 03/26/2013 3:44:55 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Travis McGee

What out for that Italian drone.

I hope they are better than Italian rifles: Never fired, only dropped once.


30 posted on 03/26/2013 3:49:20 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: tsowellfan

Can you find a single reference in print? I’ve lived in the northeast almost my entire life and never heard it and I’ve been around awhile. I’m also if Irish descent and never heard a relative mention it.


31 posted on 03/26/2013 3:50:41 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SMGFan

If I were her. I wouldn’t even drive past a Olive Garden...


32 posted on 03/26/2013 4:07:08 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: tupac

Good knowledge? did the Italian prosecutors share information with you? Did they ask you for help?
why would favorable press here help her? It could just as easily have had the opposite effect in Italy.


33 posted on 03/26/2013 4:08:35 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Regulator
Arguing that Knox killed Kercher makes little sense given the evidence.

It is fairly obvious that Guede killed Kercher.

What seems equally obvious is that Knox and Sollecito had a pretty good idea that Guede was responsible (and probably believed his likely claims that it was an accident), but concealed their knowledge from the police because telling the unvarnished truth would have revealed that they were drug users and possibly low-level dealers.

This would make them accessories after the fact.

As to your point about Italian law, double jeopardy is unconstitutional here but is also a principle that deserves universal approbation - without it, every person is vulnerable to vindictive prosecution.

This case has exposed a flaw in the Italian legal system.

34 posted on 03/26/2013 4:40:59 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: BigCinBigD; All

Where should she ‘disappear’ to??


35 posted on 03/26/2013 4:41:07 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: tsowellfan

With all due respect, many of us whose last name ends in a vowel
are offended by the term W@P.
I would appreciate it if you would refrain from using it or inferring, as you did, that Americans of Italian descent can be referred to by that word.
Capisce???


36 posted on 03/26/2013 4:52:45 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: tsowellfan

Sorry tsowellfan, my post #36 was intended for cynwoody, not you.
Apologies.
Maybe the mods can redirect it?


37 posted on 03/26/2013 4:57:42 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: tsowellfan

So, Burger King is now an Italian restaurant because they serve WOPPERS.


38 posted on 03/26/2013 5:10:56 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Regulator

In the USA she has he right to double jeopardy protection.
Whether she did it or not is irrelevant. She was acquitted and can’t be put on trial a 2nd time.
If you don’t like the rules, then leave and go live somewhere that removes all of your rights.


39 posted on 03/26/2013 5:43:43 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: SMGFan
I think she should be sentenced to house arrest - MY HOUSE!


40 posted on 03/26/2013 6:00:14 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: SMGFan
The Italians need the Amanda Knox industry to help balance their budget.
41 posted on 03/26/2013 6:04:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: tsowellfan
I grew up in the NYC area in the 50s and 60s and heard every derogatory, ethnic slur there ever was. Not once was WOP ever used to describe the Irish.
If anything, they were called Micks which really was harmless considering what blacks, Italians and Jews were called.
42 posted on 03/26/2013 6:13:02 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SMGFan

How many times can Italy try someone?


43 posted on 03/26/2013 6:15:58 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: BigCinBigD

If I were her. I wouldn’t even drive past a Olive Garden...

POST OF THE DAY!

EARLY START THIS MORNING.


44 posted on 03/26/2013 6:19:19 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

How many times can Italy try someone?
___________________

until they get a guilty verdict, evidently.


45 posted on 03/26/2013 6:20:35 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Regulator

She is innocent. The man who did this was tried, convicted, and sits in jail now. You should really educate yourself on this case before you make statements like this one.


46 posted on 03/26/2013 6:22:20 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: CityCenter

I believe she is ‘not guilty’ as opposed to ‘innocent’. Innocence is never an issue, only guilt.


47 posted on 03/26/2013 6:32:24 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Perdogg

I believe she is both.


48 posted on 03/26/2013 6:37:06 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Guilty or innocent, Amanda walked out of the Italian hoosegow on appeal for the same reason she would have in the good ole USA. Technicalities.

Among the various aspects of police misconduct:
She was not apprised of her rights, their law and ours.
She was interrogated without a lawyer present ... their right and ours.
She was not provided with an interpreter, their right and ours.
The chain of evidence was faulty, just like OJ's, their right and ours.

No matter what exactly happened, Foxy Knoxy would have eventually walked in the USA, just as she eventually walked in Italy.

However, Unlike our Supreme Court, the Eyetie version wants to go beyond the technicalities, to learn WTF actually happened. Did she and Rafe do it? Who knows? I bet they know one hell of a lot more than they told the cops! As for reviving this case, Italy has likely come under some pressure from EU partner The UK

Whether she did it or not is irrelevant. She was acquitted and can’t be put on trial a 2nd time.

Well, she wasn't exactly acquitted as we might know that term, she was sort of their version of commuted and released. Of course to us, it's "Double Jeopardy." Of course, when an American gets in a foreign police jam-up with a dead body front and center, our rules don't really count much

BTW, what's with the "racism" on this thread. Substitute the "N-word" and see if how far that would fly. Embarrassing for the site, Mr. Moderator.

49 posted on 03/26/2013 6:37:46 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: tsowellfan

A college professor of mine said “wop” was the sound of a meatball falling onto linoleum as heard in the apartment below.


50 posted on 03/26/2013 6:47:01 AM PDT by Oratam
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