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'She didn't affirmatively say no': Silence means consent according to defense...(Steubenville rape)
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Posted on 03/12/2013 8:26:48 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Texas Fossil

Try looking up www.prinnified.com I’ve been following this for months. These animals should be locked up for a couple decades.


61 posted on 03/12/2013 9:49:28 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: papertyger

What is the matter with you? There is video of her UNCONSCIOUS, being carried over state lines and raped.


62 posted on 03/12/2013 9:50:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: ThunderSleeps
You see, IMHO, her "sex partners" - let's be realistic, her rapists, are criminals.

"Rape" is precisely what is being disputed here. Therefore, your "opinion" not only lack humility, it lacks equity. .

63 posted on 03/12/2013 9:52:20 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Not at all. There is a history of it.

Among these particular defendants?

64 posted on 03/12/2013 9:54:23 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Morgana

I only have one question, Where the Hell were the parents?


65 posted on 03/12/2013 9:55:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Morgana
nearly passed-out-drunk

I don't think that defense attorney has much to work with here. One who is nearly passed out usually doesn't have the ability to consent.

Unless they get off OJ/Robert Blake style for being football players, these two perps should start lifting weights for where they are about to go.

66 posted on 03/12/2013 9:57:23 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: Scotswife
Clearly you have not read much about this case - or refuse to for some reason.

To what would you like me to turn my attention?

67 posted on 03/12/2013 9:57:30 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

Not worth debating this.


68 posted on 03/12/2013 9:58:13 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: papertyger

I’m not sure if this is the entire video. He sure did prattle on. Very pleased with himself

http://jezebel.com/5972553/anonymous-leaks-horrifying-video-of-steubenville-high-schoolers-joking-about-raping-a-teenager-deader-than-trayvon-martin


69 posted on 03/12/2013 9:58:21 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: papertyger

Heh heh. I hope you have plenty of coffee. I can see you are working on an all-nighter thread with your replies

Depending on how many hits this thread actually gets, I can see the hate-responses toward you could top over 250 replies. Easily.

Enjoy.


70 posted on 03/12/2013 10:00:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Lakeshark
Kindly explain this to us all, because I don't understand what in the world you're saying.

I think I've been quite clear. "Rape" is not determined by outrage.

71 posted on 03/12/2013 10:01:20 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Morgana; All
First off...I've lived in Cleveland for 35 years, and there's no such thing as the "Cleveland Trader", far as I know...I think the article meant to reference the "Cleveland Plain Dealer".

Secondly...I don't know what playing football has to do with anything, except I suppose a good football team might be more vulnerable to attacks that they were given special privileges and egregious behavior was overlooked or covered up.

Lastly...if you read the article, the victim does not remember what actually happened, and she went with the young men of her own free will. So, what is the difference between "party boys" and "party girls", in all fairness???

It seems clear the girl was a victim, but of what??? Are the boys also not victims? It's not clear what really happened here, other than general bad behavior on all sides, and stupid "social media" posts.

IMHO, all these "kids" acted incredibly stupidly, and the question is, why didn't any of them know better???

My other question is, why do we assume it's the fault of the stupid boys rather than the stupid girl? Her friends told her not to go...she went anyway, not by any force, and the stupid boys could be facing prison time now.

Here's an idea: let's try to educate our children!!!

/ rant

72 posted on 03/12/2013 10:05:18 PM PDT by 88keys (never do nothing, unless it's the best strategy)
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To: Theoria
It's obvious what you are doing.

Which is?

I cannot convince you of anything or to understand your pov.

So the fact that I don't agree with you impugns my skepticism, how?

73 posted on 03/12/2013 10:05:54 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You obviously don’t know what constitutes “logic.”

Do you really think I chose to wade into this mud hole without knowing I’d be challenged by chauvinists and paternalists.


74 posted on 03/12/2013 10:11:33 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: papertyger

You haven’t been clear at all, you’ve somehow been defending some boys for raping a 16 year old girl because she was passed out drunk. Now you’re going to claim we’re just outraged (which would be a normal position for a decent human being to have considering what these boys seem to have done), presumably because you think you’re the only one who is thinking clearly that these boys didn’t actually force her to have sex while she was passed out. That’s a pretty crazy position you’re taking. You also dodged my other questions, presumably because you can’t defend what you’re saying in light of them. Here they are again: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2996300/posts?page=52#52


75 posted on 03/12/2013 10:13:29 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: 88keys

Are you suggesting she raped the boys, forcing them to have sex while she was passed out?


76 posted on 03/12/2013 10:15:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: 88keys
IMHO, all these "kids" acted incredibly stupidly, and the question is, why didn't any of them know better???

Because they don't have parents, only sperm donators and receptacles.

77 posted on 03/12/2013 10:16:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Politicalmom
“Sex partners”? YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND. AND FOUL.

Why? Because I think young men are worthy of as much protection as you wish to give young women?

That's what equality looks like.

78 posted on 03/12/2013 10:16:47 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Politicalmom
There is video of her UNCONSCIOUS, being carried over state lines and raped.

If there were, I doubt the defense would be positing the case as they are.

79 posted on 03/12/2013 10:19:31 PM PDT by papertyger (It's only "hate" if you're conservative.)
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To: Scotswife
The reporting links you've posted are very interesting, I have to say. I mean..."Anonymous"??!! (the site)

Do you actually trust anything those people would publish?!

80 posted on 03/12/2013 10:21:16 PM PDT by 88keys (never do nothing, unless it's the best strategy)
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