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To: oxcart

I was watching a HS Baseball game last night (JV) and 3 umps showed up. I kind of figured 2 would do the game and the other was kind of observing (probably grading?)

Anyhow runners on 1st & 2nd, 1 out the batter hits a pop fly - NOT quite a towering pop up but the ball had some loft and the 2nd baseman cleanly caught the ball.

I turned to the ‘extra’ umpire (by now I did notice he did have an area ‘Umpires ball cap on’) and ALL I said to him was:
“Doesn’t the infield fly rule come in effect anymore”?
It is a question I have been wondering about because the local HS leagues sooner NOT call it most of the time.

So, my question was directed to the ‘Trainer?’ and he looked at me like I had lit into one of the Umps and said “You aren’t supposed to vocally question decisions by the umpires”.
Well I am an old ball player and if I had ‘played’ with his family it would have been his father at the least and probably grandfather.
I said “Lets get something straight. I AM NOT questioning the call. I am NOT getting on an Umpire. I know the rules (no matter how stupid) about ‘picking on’ an Umpire. ALL I want to know ‘FROM THE SUPPOSED SENIOR UMP’ DO they not call Infield Fly Rule in HS anymore’.
That clown actually walked away from me.
Well if this is the attitude of someone that is ‘training’ or evaluating umps, one can see the attitude they may possess.

Of course, on school property, I must remain dignified at ALL times, not only because I am a guest BUT I feel my registered ‘friend’ is safer in my possession than in my vehicle, I can not afford any ‘run ins’....

Another case of make enough rules and we can all become felons after a fashion.


42 posted on 03/12/2013 10:12:00 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: xrmusn

On thing that surprises me is that announcers do not indicate whether or not the infield fly rule has been invoked, any more. If the camera shows the second base umpire you can usually watch him. BTW, major league umpires are pretty near flawless making these calls, I am sure they recognize the situation before it arises.


48 posted on 03/12/2013 10:21:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: xrmusn
Well if this is the attitude of someone that is ‘training’ or evaluating umps, one can see the attitude they may possess.

I remember the best umpire I ever knew was a very light hearted "interactive" type of umpire that would take great pains to explain things to the coaches in a non-threatening way. He was highly respected in our coaching circles and he was also the umpire trainer so we always had pretty good umpires if they were trained by him. He also carried an air of authority and baseball knowledge that most people would not question his calls.

I remember talking to him while he was watching a game and commented to him on what I thought was a bad/missed call. He just kind of laughed and said, "Yah, he might have missed that one ha ha ha. But we don't have the same angle he does so...who knows". That was just the way John was and everyone loved it when he worked the games. He would always be very supportive of the players and coaches for their efforts. It ended up being a mutual admiration society actually...lol
70 posted on 03/12/2013 3:24:07 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (Comparison is the beginning of discontent.)
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