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Finally A Gun Is Used To Stop A Crime Instead Of Killing Innocent People
Business Insider ^ | 02Mar13 | Henry Blodget

Posted on 03/02/2013 2:40:57 PM PST by qaz123

One of the most common and persuasive arguments against gun control is that guns offer a means with which good guys can protect themselves from bad guys.

In practice, unfortunately, the guns that good guys own to protect themselves from bad guys too often end up killing the good guys' kids or wives or the good guys themselves (either via suicide, accident, or, in some cases, because they're grabbed by the bad guys and used against the good guys). Or, as in the case of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the guns kill people who the good guys think are bad guys but who aren't actually bad guys.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
Have at it Free Republic. I say that Henry Blodget hasn't heard of the Loganville, Ga woman who defended herself and her kids in a home invasion. Might not be a bad idea to flood his inbox with the many many many many examples of people defending themselves.
1 posted on 03/02/2013 2:41:00 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Finally? Such hasn’t ever happened before?


2 posted on 03/02/2013 2:45:13 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: qaz123

Finally??? It happens all the time!


3 posted on 03/02/2013 2:49:53 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: the OlLine Rebel

They still don’t understand. We don’t need guns to protect us from the bad guys (most of the time). We need them to protect us from bad government.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 2:50:44 PM PST by WVNan
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To: qaz123

Is Henry retarded, brain injured or in the grip of dementia? Millions of people a year use a gun for defense in the United States.


5 posted on 03/02/2013 2:51:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: qaz123
•Second, the coach was a trained police officer. He knew very well how to carry, handle, and use his handgun. And the fact that he used it effectively under the extreme shock and pressure of being robbed at gunpoint shows how well trained he was.

I notice that the only reason that he sites this story is because the protector is a trained police officer and it fits his narrative.

Only train professionals should be permitted to carry firearms.

The peons must not be permitted arms because they can not be trusted.

6 posted on 03/02/2013 2:55:21 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: qaz123

Typical Business Insider liberal.

Trayvon wasn’t a “good kid” who Zimmerman thought was bad. He was a kid doing something suspectful, who when Zimmerman followed him, decided to try to kill Zimmerman.

Hence, he was a bad man, an attempted murderer. Zimmerman was able to shoot to defend himself, before Trayvon was able to beat him unconscious.

And of course, guns are used all the time to stop crime. Even once in a while, the police actually use their guns to stop crime, although they usually use them to kill people’s dogs.


7 posted on 03/02/2013 2:56:23 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ConjunctionJunction; All
Finally??? It happens all the time!

Remember, in the media that he reads, it is spiked on a regular basis.

8 posted on 03/02/2013 2:56:43 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: qaz123

The guy that wrote thia article is just another gun-phobe who thinks that only police officers should have guns.

The opponents of the 2nd Amendment have selective memories or are willfully ignorant because they are dozens of examples every month where regular people use a gun to protect themselves. There are countless other events which are not reported where a gun is shown and that is sufficient to deter the criminal.


9 posted on 03/02/2013 2:58:45 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: qaz123

Sometimes, even idiots learn to spell and get published.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 2:59:15 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: qaz123

I’ve no idea why Blodget is opposed to guns. The type of crime he carried out was punished as civil securities fraud instead of a criminal offense that would have denied him the right to own a gun, but still, it rarely results in the fraudster being gunned down by irate investors whose retirement is stolen.

“He agreed to a permanent ban from the securities industry and paid a $2 million fine plus a $2 million disgorgement.”


11 posted on 03/02/2013 3:01:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: qaz123

Excuse me while I go take a Blodget.


12 posted on 03/02/2013 3:02:01 PM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: WVNan

Absolutely! The Second Amendment was written to protect the people from an over bearing government. We ARE the militia!


13 posted on 03/02/2013 3:03:46 PM PST by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: basil

To: “Henry”, the article author

“.......Or, as in the case of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the guns kill people who the good guys think are bad guys but who aren’t actually bad guys.”.

And Henery, you’re sure that Martin WAS not a bad guy? You’ve been out of the country too long or asleep.

Guess the mother in GA who used that gun didn’t care if the perp was either good or bad, she adminsitered justice then and there. Good for her.


14 posted on 03/02/2013 3:10:30 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: basil

To: “Henry”, the article author

“.......Or, as in the case of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the guns kill people who the good guys think are bad guys but who aren’t actually bad guys.”.

And Henery, you’re sure that Martin WAS not a bad guy? You’ve been out of the country too long or asleep.

Guess the mother in GA who used that gun didn’t care if the perp was either good or bad, she adminsitered justice then and there. Good for her.


15 posted on 03/02/2013 3:10:30 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: marktwain

Thanks for your posts, I use them often.


16 posted on 03/02/2013 3:13:04 PM PST by Haddit
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To: qaz123

Henry Blodget is a huge left wing extremist. He usually writes columns on taxes and economic policy and he is quite the 0bamatard.


17 posted on 03/02/2013 3:17:12 PM PST by NJRighty (I need a new tag line)
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To: qaz123
Have at it Free Republic. I say that Henry Blodget hasn't heard of the Loganville, Ga woman who defended herself and her kids in a home invasion. Might not be a bad idea to flood his inbox with the many many many many examples of people defending themselves.

That's Freepers' fault. If we kept a running total of incidents nationwide, we can instantly educate/challenge these apparently clueless "reporter"/commentators.

the problem is the MSM in the different states totally ignore these incidents, but most of the local press always report them. How can we do better?

18 posted on 03/02/2013 3:20:05 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: qaz123

trayvon martin was a genuinely bad guy. i reject the writer’s premise.


19 posted on 03/02/2013 3:31:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Pontiac

“Only train professionals should be permitted to carry firearms.”

Okay, if they want to play that game. I was trained by Uncle Sam many years ago and I have, in turn, trained my wife and daughter.


20 posted on 03/02/2013 3:33:34 PM PST by JimSEA ( “what difference does it make?”)
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To: Pontiac

“Only train professionals should be permitted to carry firearms.”

Okay, if they want to play that game. I was trained by Uncle Sam many years ago and I have, in turn, trained my wife and daughter.


21 posted on 03/02/2013 3:34:19 PM PST by JimSEA ( “what difference does it make?”)
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To: Progov
Amen. I about crapped when I read that: Or, as in the case of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the guns kill people who the good guys think are bad guys but who aren't actually bad guys.

George was flat on his back with a thug in a hoodie beating his head repeatedly on the cement. I think any reasonable man would be entirely justified in concluding that the perp was a seriously bad guy who needed a well-placed bullet. The author of this article is a fool.

22 posted on 03/02/2013 3:35:59 PM PST by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: qaz123
"There are none so blind as those who refuse to look..."

Or are too stupid or dishonest to use Google efficiently.

Look here, Doofus!

There are at least 9 web pages of incidents.

23 posted on 03/02/2013 3:39:32 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Pontiac
Only train professionals should be permitted to carry firearms. The peons must not be permitted arms because they can not be trusted

Thats precisely what Chris Dorner said.

24 posted on 03/02/2013 3:40:13 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: WVNan
They still don’t understand. We don’t need guns to protect us from the bad guys (most of the time). We need them to protect us from bad government.

We need them for both a despotic government and criminals (but I repeat myself.)
The Second amendment affirms the righ unequivocally against the former; the latter is a gray area, but common sense and justice should guarantee it, since the police is not obligated to prevent our murder by criminals, but they are all proud of themselves when, dressed in full SWAT regalia, they collect our bodies after the crime.

"When seconds count, the police are just minutes away..."

25 posted on 03/02/2013 3:53:41 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: qaz123

It’s not that he hasn’t heard of them he just doesn’t want to believe it: http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense


26 posted on 03/02/2013 3:53:41 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: qaz123

Ok kids, Business Insider is a leftie site with all of the NY gun hating tendencies. Rather than spew about the article (which is what they want) just delete Business Insider from your favorites as I have done. Joe W. Smartypants will feel the pain when views drop to zero. Don’t debate them, ban them.


27 posted on 03/02/2013 4:11:44 PM PST by zagger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘Business Insider’ is the Democrat propaganda version of a genuine business publication such as Forbes, the Wall Street Journal, Investors Business Daily, etc.
Keep that in mind whenever you notice it’s the source.


28 posted on 03/02/2013 4:14:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: qaz123

This idiot is a liberal with a criminal background who would rather be called a “libertarian.” His publication always wrong...as stupid as he is.


29 posted on 03/02/2013 4:14:40 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Pontiac
Second, the coach was a trained police officer. He knew very well how to carry, handle, and use his handgun. And the fact that he used it effectively under the extreme shock and pressure of being robbed at gunpoint shows how well trained he was.

Ha, that half-truth (at best) might have been plausible to some a month ago, but the LAPD's performance during the Dorner episode tells the tale.

30 posted on 03/02/2013 4:41:56 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: qaz123
I'll go against my better nature and hope somebody 'Trayvon Martin's' your head on the concrete, Henry Blodget
31 posted on 03/02/2013 5:10:22 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: publius911; All
That's Freepers' fault. If we kept a running total of incidents nationwide, we can instantly educate/challenge these apparently clueless "reporter"/commentators.

We have a total of incidents, by month, on Gun Watch, since 2004.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/

The NRA runs a monthly column called the Armed Citizen

They are pretty well coverd in the Banglist as well, just not as accessable, IMHO.

32 posted on 03/02/2013 5:47:52 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: qaz123

“In practice, unfortunately, the guns that good guys own to protect themselves from bad guys too often end up killing the good guys’ kids or wives or the good guys themselves “

Typical liberal spreading a typical liberal lie. Liberals are the most stupid and ignorant of idiots.


33 posted on 03/02/2013 5:54:30 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Haddit

You are welcome. We all must do what we can.


34 posted on 03/02/2013 6:20:46 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: qaz123

The skeet shooting Montana girl that blew away 2 armed (one packing a stolen .45 auto; the other packing a knife) illegal aliens who home-invaded while she was home alone.

Or the 12 YO Oklahoma girl.

Or, posted earlier today: “Liquor store owner detains knife-wielding robber at gunpoint” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2992922/posts

So many examples, none of which he’ll read or give credence to.


35 posted on 03/02/2013 6:24:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: publius911; qaz123; abb
Have at it Free Republic. I say that Henry Blodget hasn't heard of the Loganville, Ga woman who defended herself and her kids in a home invasion. Might not be a bad idea to flood his inbox with the many many many many examples of people defending themselves.
That's Freepers' fault. If we kept a running total of incidents nationwide, we can instantly educate/challenge these apparently clueless "reporter"/commentators.

the problem is the MSM in the different states totally ignore these incidents, but most of the local press always report them. How can we do better?

Might best we consult abb on that one . . .

36 posted on 03/02/2013 6:42:50 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: qaz123

“Have at it”, you say?

In that case, consider this howler: “...in the case of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, the guns kill people who the good guys think are bad guys but who aren’t actually bad guys.”

One must assume the presstitute who wrote that line never did his research, and didn’t see the Facebook pics of the soi dissant “No limit Nigga” acting out his inner thug.


37 posted on 03/02/2013 6:44:27 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: publius911; qaz123; abb
Have at it Free Republic. I say that Henry Blodget hasn't heard of the Loganville, Ga woman who defended herself and her kids in a home invasion. Might not be a bad idea to flood his inbox with the many many many many examples of people defending themselves.
That's Freepers' fault. If we kept a running total of incidents nationwide, we can instantly educate/challenge these apparently clueless "reporter"/commentators.

the problem is the MSM in the different states totally ignore these incidents, but most of the local press always report them. How can we do better?

Might best we consult abb on that one . . .
I would think, tho, that Freepers would be posting a lot of the local articles you want, here on FR. I would imagine that the main problem is that most defensive uses amount only to a brandishing which convinces a menacing individual that there is no point picking what is at best a fair fight.

38 posted on 03/02/2013 6:46:51 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: qaz123

Never noticed a Business Insider article here that wasn’t left-leaning.


39 posted on 03/02/2013 6:51:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: qaz123

Travvon Martin was a gang related thug who picked a fight with a man armed with a gun.....you lose, big mistake.


40 posted on 03/02/2013 7:30:34 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Spartan79
The author of this article is a fool.

Nah. this is just another semi-truth satire written from the leftist point of view, right? A joke, I suppose--can't be real reporting, eh?

41 posted on 03/02/2013 9:55:44 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: qaz123

Business Insider features lots of far left nutjobs.


42 posted on 03/02/2013 9:59:02 PM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blodget is yet another Ivy League graduate who thinks that you little people are getting in the way of the perfect world they could create if only everyone just listened to the graduates of Ivy League schools.

He deserves ridicule and humiliations galore, just like the rest of his educational cohort of pecksniffs.


43 posted on 03/03/2013 12:17:06 AM PST by NVDave
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Years ago, The American Rifleman used to publish a monthly column, The Armed Citizen, that published clippings from all over the country. I’m sure that is still done online somewhere.

If I didn’t read anything else in TAR, I read that column.

One mistake I’ve often seen Citizen Journalists make is not publishing regularly. You have to put new stuff on your blog most every day to keep folks coming back.

They start out ok, but then taper off. If no new stuff shows up on your blog, then readers quit checking on it, and readership - and credibility - declines.


44 posted on 03/03/2013 1:50:10 AM PST by abb
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To: qaz123
This guy is full of sh**. His whole article is nothing more than left wing talking points against owning a gun for self defense. The FBI crime report, which comes out every 2 years, says, and has said for many, many years, that from 2 million to 3 million crimes are stopped and lives saved due to private ownership of firearms. In the vast majority of those cases the law abiding citizens didn't even have to fire a shot, just displaying the weapon sent the criminals running.

Why these facts are not used by conservative politicians to squash the liberals BS arguments I have no idea except that most of them aren't conservative at all and wish for the same end to our constitution as do the liberals.

45 posted on 03/03/2013 11:13:42 AM PST by calex59
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To: abb
Years ago, The American Rifleman used to publish a monthly column, The Armed Citizen, that published clippings from all over the country. I’m sure that is still done online somewhere.

It is still done where it has always been done, in the American Rifleman, and I assume, the American Hunter, two of their publications that members get(their choice one or the other)with membership. The Armed Citizen is still going strong, but you can't expect a liberal to know that or even acknowledge it.

46 posted on 03/03/2013 11:36:14 AM PST by calex59
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To: abb; publius911; qaz123
Years ago, The American Rifleman used to publish a monthly column, The Armed Citizen, that published clippings from all over the country. I’m sure that is still done online somewhere.

If I didn’t read anything else in TAR, I read that column.

One mistake I’ve often seen Citizen Journalists make is not publishing regularly. You have to put new stuff on your blog most every day to keep folks coming back.

They start out ok, but then taper off. If no new stuff shows up on your blog, then readers quit checking on it, and readership - and credibility - declines.

Excellent response, abb. You were exactly the one to ask, even more - for the American Rifleman reference - than I had known.
Pinging the FReepers who raised the original question . . .

47 posted on 03/04/2013 3:04:00 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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