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Congressman describes Paterno report findings
Allentown Morning Call ^ | 2-8-13 | Peter Hall

Posted on 02/09/2013 6:52:41 AM PST by FlJoePa

Lehigh Valley Congressman Charlie Dent said Penn State's culture is not to blame for Jerry Sandusky's decades of child sexual abuse, according to a review of the university's internal investigation by Joe Paterno's family.

Dent, in a telephone interview Friday, said he had read summaries of the review commissioned by the late head football coach's family. The review is set to be published Sunday morning.

"To blame the culture of Penn State for Sandusky's crimes is a horrible mistake," Dent said Friday, characterizing the findings of one of the experts commissioned by the Paterno family. "To blame the culture of Penn State or even the football program … is not supported by the facts."

Former FBI Director Louis Freeh led an investigation commissioned by Penn State into the school's handling of sexual abuse allegations against Sandusky. The National Collegiate Athletic Association used that investigation in determing sanctions against the school and its football program.

Dent said the review cements his conclusion that Penn State has been "horribly mistreated" by the NCAA. After the college sports governing body hit Penn State with a $60 million fine and stripped the one-time Big10 powerhouse of football scholarships last summer, Dent called on NCAA president Mark Emmert to keep the money in Pennsylvania and restore opportunities for student athletes.

"The entire Penn State culture was punished based on this report," Dent said, adding that he will call for congressional hearings on the NCAA's decision.

Dent said the Paterno family's review comprises reports by four experts, including a former U.S. attorney general whom Dent would not identify. "The former attorney general says the Freeh report is seriously flawed, very flawed," Dent said.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: joe; pa; pedostate; penna; pervertuniversity; psu; sanduskyapologist; statepenn
Tomorrow at 9am little louis' fact freeh fantasy starts to unravel. ESPN Outside the Lines.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 6:52:51 AM PST by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Thanks for the OTL heads-up. I just put it on the DVR schedule.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 8:03:53 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: FlJoePa
Lehigh Valley Congressman Charlie Dent said Penn State's culture is not to blame for Jerry Sandusky's decades of child sexual abuse, according to a review of the university's internal investigation by Joe Paterno's family.

Dent is a Penn State graduate so we are really getting an unbiased opinion there, aren't we? Puhleese!

" ...according to a review of the university's internal investigation by Joe Paterno's family.

Oh, can we depend on the unvarnished truth from these sources? Puhleese!

Enough already with this cult-like following of the "enabler" Paterno of the pedophile Sandusky.

Please take this perversion elsewhere.

3 posted on 02/09/2013 8:32:11 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: JohnG45
So louis freeh is credible in your mind, yet Dick Thornburgh isn't? This is still Free Republic, right?

You go stand w/ louis. I'll stand with Joe and Sue.

4 posted on 02/09/2013 8:41:48 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
So louis freeh is credible in your mind, yet Dick Thornburgh isn't? This is still Free Republic, right?

You go stand w/ louis. I'll stand with Joe and Sue.

It won't be long before you and your ilk will start blaming the victims of this tragedy.

5 posted on 02/09/2013 8:45:20 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: FlJoePa

The entire campus should be razed to the ground and the Earth sown with salt. Then the records of Pedo State should be systematically erased so it was as if it had never existed.

Anyone defending that institution is defending serial pedophiles and they know it. And they’re doing it over a stupid game.


6 posted on 02/09/2013 8:47:20 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: FlJoePa

What a crock.

THIS is the reason those outside of Penn State are disgusted by Penn State fans. ZERO accountability. Penn State fans pound their chests “Its’ the world against us”. No, it’s the world against your arrogant attitude of ZERO blame.

The Penn State chant for the next ten years should be WE ARE SORRY!!! Instead, it’s a thumb in the eye to everyone else. ZERO accountability. And the Penn State fans are cling to this as another justification for their ZERO accountability.

Congrats Penn State Fans, this will do nothing but continue to make the entire institution look like bigger enablers than ever.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 8:52:33 AM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV

No. We just want the truth. We didn’t get it from louis freeh.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 8:57:37 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: T-Bird45
ESPN Outside the Lines.

Yeah, that's bound to be an unbiased source.

9 posted on 02/09/2013 9:06:55 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SengirV

‘Penn State fans are cling to this as another justification for their ZERO accountability.’

So, the typical Penn State fan is accountable, for what exactly?

These are people who had no contact with JS, the actual pedophile. Accountable because they lived within 100 miles of State College? Accountable because they either attended Penn St or knew someone who did?

The more that this drags on, the more this becomes about tarnishing an entire region of this nation for no other reason than to make others feel good about themselves.

The analogy here is that because Dorner is from Los Angeles, then every resident of Southern Californis is either a cop-killer or a cop-killer sympathizer.

For the last time, the Freeh report was a compendium of what Louis Freeh, thought, had happened at Penn State. Louis never intended for his report to be used beyond the BOT.

We should be careful tossing around Guilt by Association charges. One never knows when it could come home to bite one in the buttocks.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 9:17:51 AM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: FlJoePa

With the NCAA bribing investigators in the U of Miami case....I think you will find more people start becoming a little more rational and reasonable with the Penn State situation. The NCAA and Freeh Report are not credible

Just wonder how ESPN is going to slant the Paterno Report tomorrow. They have been hard on PSU while covering up similar incidents at Syracuse (many of ESPN staff alma-mater is SU)

The Paterno family will win their lawsuit against the NCAA....the SCOTUS decision in Tarakanian v NCAA ruled the NCAA cannot punish coaches without due process. With the NCAA hijinks against Miami....the school itself looks like it will have it as easy to get the NCAA Sanctions overturned

Which I hope so....my alma mater (UCF) just signed a home and home with PSU for ‘13 and ‘14...Bill O’Brien worked under George O’Leary (UCF coach) in the past


11 posted on 02/09/2013 9:40:04 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: SengirV

Anyone who really follows College Sports and is not stuck to ESPN 24 hrs a day knows that the NCAA has no real authority in the PSU matter....and the school should have never signed anything w the NCAA

Of course, with the NCAA bribing criminals/defense attorneys in the U of Miami case....the NCAA credibility in handling PSU looks even more suspect

Note that the same things were happening at Syracuse University...with their basketball program. Of course, Syracuse is the largest producer of Liberal Media and Sports Media broadcast professionals...so they do not want to discuss that. Gosh, ESPN sat on a taped phone call (for nearly 10 years) between a victim and the offending coach’s wife...who basically admitted her husband was having sex with young boys. ESPN would have sat on it longer if the Sandusky case was never exposed


12 posted on 02/09/2013 9:49:04 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Delta Dawn

This “study” is being funded by folks who had intimate contact with Sandusky. What do YOU think the results will be? I know - zero accountability for the numerous faults of the university, it’s officials, culture, and specifically JoePa.

And no, it’s not about tarnishing the region, it’s about shaking our heads at the Penn Staters who defiantly try to say nothing is wrong. “It was one man, and maybe a single official or two, who are to blame - nothing else”. What % accountability do you think will rest at JoePa’s feet from this report?

you do realize there is a trail out there to shows JoePa knew about SAndusky in 1997-8, he was informed about yet another incident by McQuery in 2002, and JoePA/the rest of the leadership at Penn State, still sat back doing nothing while Sandusky was violating children down the hallway from JoePa’s office AFTER 2002?

Yeah, enjoy your “See we(penn state) did nothing wrong!!!”, joke of a report. It will no nothing but make the ostriches at Penn State look even worse.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 9:50:54 AM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV

Paterno did know about Sandusky in 1998. That is why he had Sandusky removed from the football program. The child services, police and local DA also knew about Sandusky in 1998 and they ALL took a pass on doing about Sandusky.

The failures in this case crossed many jurisdictional lines, it is just easier to focus on the Joe Paterno, Penn St angle cause they must be bad since they play that Northern football thingy.


14 posted on 02/09/2013 10:01:18 AM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: Delta Dawn

Yes the blame is there, it’s not only JoePa, but university and local police, heck even the Governor himself. But last I checked, Sandusky wasn’t violating children down the hallway from anyone’s office but JoePa’s. At a MINIMUM, JoePa’s name should be put up at equally culpable as the worst individuals Penn Stater’s want to point to(instead of JoePa)


15 posted on 02/09/2013 10:07:34 AM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV

It isn’t a study, it’s a report. Just like the freeh report. freeh was hired by the PSU b.o.t. and interviewed 3 of the 18 most relevant witnesses in this case.

Wick Sollers and Dick Thornburgh (and others with FAR better reputations than freeh) were hired by the Paterno Family.

You act like freeh was still working for the FBI and this was some federal investigation. freeh is famous for incomplete investigations and unfounded conclusions. He just effed up FIFA a few years ago with the same nonsense. Pick the desired ending (for whoever is paying) and then gin up sketchy facts to support it.

Tomorrow, his report will likely be blown out of the water (it’s already dead in the water if it ever sees the inside of a court room).

I hope you’re tuned in. Maybe you’ll learn something.


16 posted on 02/09/2013 10:14:18 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Delta Dawn

Joe did not know about 1998. It would have been ILLEGAL for him to be informed about 1998 - per state law.

The e-mails cited for this conclusion in the freeh report will be exposed tomorrow. A few of them are pretty funny in that if he’d have just asked the right people, they would have had the truth. Lets just say that Jerry Dunn was the basketball coach and in contract negotiations at the time.

js retired in 1998 to take advantage of a pension deal the state was giving. He was then re-hired for the 1999 season as a “consultant” - while really still being the DC.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 10:19:20 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
You're touting a report financed by the Paterno family as being the end all to what happened and then make this statement in your previous post:

"Pick the desired ending (for whoever is paying) and then gin up sketchy facts to support it."

Now, do you realize how ridiculous you sound touting the Paterno family's report?

18 posted on 02/09/2013 10:24:02 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: JohnG45

google: FIFA freeh


19 posted on 02/09/2013 10:25:59 AM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

As much as folks around here like to point out the obvious logical fallacy of liberals’ guilt by association tactics (e.g. NRA members have blood on their hands for gun-related crimes), threads like these illustrate the extent to which critical thinking is in short supply on all sides of the political spectrum. People are so easily influenced by an ESPN headline that seems to meet their preconceived notions. No wonder politicians make use of emotional appeals so often; it’s generally effective regardless of one’s political bent.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 10:29:25 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: DuncanWaring

I don’t think I said it was an unbiased source. It’s merely another source that may have some info that’s not been widely known or in the general media. I’ll take in what they have to say, consider any obvious bias or their opinion statements, then evaluate whether it affects my view of the situation.


21 posted on 02/09/2013 10:42:14 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: FlJoePa

Oh, it was against the law. Well I that case, we know it didn’t happen, because nothing illegal ever happened at Penn State, right?

Flawless logic. You are a shining example of what people point to when talking about the Penn State excuse train rolling through central PA.


22 posted on 02/09/2013 12:31:27 PM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV

You’re a shining example of someone who comments on that which she doesn’t have full knowledge or understanding of.

This false narrative is unraveling. There’s not much you can do about it.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 12:40:28 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: JohnG45

Joe Paterno wouldn’t have covered up anything for anybody. If they had run Sandusky out of town you liberals would be calling Penn State “Homophobic U”


24 posted on 02/09/2013 1:01:48 PM PST by RedwM
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To: FlJoePa

You are correct. The false narrative the penn staters have been pushing since day 1 has already unraveled. Reports, pushed out by the parties involved, will not cause anyone but the loyal brown shirts to take notice. This will do nothing but further erode penn Starr’s reputation, because the conclusions are already known before the report was even started(sounds familiar?). And the loyalists will continue to show zero remorse for their university’s digusting handling of this matter for the sale of the football program and the reputation of one man. Was it worth it?


25 posted on 02/09/2013 1:02:08 PM PST by SengirV
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To: RedwM
Joe Paterno wouldn’t have covered up anything for anybody. If they had run Sandusky out of town you liberals would be calling Penn State “Homophobic U”

Another cult member checks in!

Joe Paterno: "I wish I had done more."

Which means he could have, but he didn't to protect his image.

Damn those victims!(/s)

26 posted on 02/09/2013 1:12:19 PM PST by JohnG45
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To: SengirV
And the loyalists will continue to show zero remorse for their university’s digusting handling of this matter for the sale of the football program and the reputation of one man.

The "university" consists of hundreds of thousands of current and former students and staff. Depending upon whose version of events you believe, these criminal acts were performed and/or hushed up by no more than 10 people. Calling down blanket damnation over the entire university is akin to blaming all US citizens because you don't like the President. It's really quite bizarre, and in my experience most of the folks who hold to this line of "thought" have a pathological need to prove their superiority.

Present company excepted, I'm sure.

27 posted on 02/09/2013 1:12:45 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: JohnG45

You’re right I am a cult member. What do you think Paterno should have done about it.


28 posted on 02/09/2013 1:18:12 PM PST by RedwM
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To: JohnG45

I’m going to seriously read this report.

Right after I read the report that OJ commissioned to find the killer of his murdered victims.


29 posted on 02/09/2013 1:30:17 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: RedwM
What do you think Paterno should have done about it.[sic]

Why don't you ask the victims and their families?

30 posted on 02/09/2013 1:31:05 PM PST by JohnG45
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To: Delta Dawn; mickie; oswegodeee; flaglady47; Chigirl 26; Bob Ireland; surfer; hoosiermama; ...
Finally, a post on this thread which is right on the mark.

It's incredible how many freepers fell for the "Guilt by Association" gambit (and still do) when the incredible hammer of moral and economic injustice was smashed indiscriminately on the university, the community and on the heads of everyone including the school janitor that had any connection with Penn or Paterno....innocent or otherwise.

"Guilt by Association"....one of the age-old pillars of the "commune vs. the individual" agenda.

I was in church the Sunday morning after Martin Luther King was assassinated. More than 200 in the pews.

The substitute young pastor (fresh out of seminary) delivering the sermon leaned forward in the pulpit and, pointing his finger repeatedly, stated over and over again:......"and YOU pulled the trigger"....."and YOU pulled the trigger"....."and YOU pulled the trigger".

An usher, our Township Supervisor (a heavy donor to the church) and I got up and quietly walked out. The scores of other congregants sat mute and took their indictment like sheep.

The upshot was that the liberal young minister was never invited back. He is now the head Administrator of a large Senior rest home and hospital facility owned by our denomination in my former state of Illinois. Probably where he and his bleeding heart belong.

The point here being...."Guilt by Association" is a marxist/fascist propaganda tactic. Watch for it everywhere. Obama's speeches are rife with it. The anti-gun movement is rife with it.

Separate out those who are the real perpetrators and sinners.

Leni

31 posted on 02/09/2013 1:36:56 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: NittanyLion
See my # 31.

Leni

32 posted on 02/09/2013 1:42:16 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: JohnG45

If I could I would ask them why they didn’t press the issue with the authorities sooner. Like I said Joe Paterno wouldn’t have covered up anything for anybody.


33 posted on 02/09/2013 1:53:05 PM PST by RedwM
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To: RedwM
Like I said Joe Paterno wouldn’t have covered up anything for anybody.

Reality says otherwise!

34 posted on 02/09/2013 1:58:40 PM PST by JohnG45
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To: NittanyLion
Since you are bringing politics into it, Penn Staters are like liberals who refuse to acknowledge any mistakes Obama is making, and declaring him the best president ever.

Liberals = Penn Staters =
when it comes to their sacred, untouchable institutions.

35 posted on 02/09/2013 1:58:50 PM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV
Since you are bringing politics into it, Penn Staters are like liberals who refuse to acknowledge any mistakes Obama is making, and declaring him the best president ever.

Huh? A simpleminded analogy that makes no sense...good work by you.

For the record, I've condemned those clearly involved and am still waiting for the facts when I'm not sure. Should Paterno have done more? By his own admission, yes. Did he actively cover-up Sandusky's crimes? I'm still waiting on the evidence to make up my mind. I've spoken with a lot of alums and that's a pretty representative opinion.

Of course, since you prefer to paint with the broad brush you wouldn't actually know what Penn Staters think, would you? Acknowledging that this is a complicated issue that doesn't lend itself to packaged sound bytes would undermine your apparent desperate need to feel morally superior.

36 posted on 02/09/2013 2:09:11 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: MinuteGal

“Separate out those who are the real perpetrators and sinners.”

Excellent analysis as to how things actually are, rather than the made up versions we are assaulted with by the MSM and the Libs. Bravo.


37 posted on 02/09/2013 2:31:03 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: NittanyLion

“As much as folks around here like to point out the obvious logical fallacy of liberals’ guilt by association tactics (e.g. NRA members have blood on their hands for gun-related crimes), threads like these illustrate the extent to which critical thinking is in short supply on all sides of the political spectrum. People are so easily influenced by an ESPN headline that seems to meet their preconceived notions. No wonder politicians make use of emotional appeals so often; it’s generally effective regardless of one’s political bent.”

Bingo. Excellent observation.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 2:43:18 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: FlJoePa

Thanks for posting this article.

Will be tuned in to ESPN tomorrow.

http://framingpaterno.com/


39 posted on 02/09/2013 3:09:02 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: SeminoleCounty

Looking forward to making the drive up to UCF in 2014. People wondered why we let UVA bail on a return PSU visit in 2013. I think it might be because UVA will be back on the schedule in 2014 as a B1G member.


40 posted on 02/09/2013 3:26:55 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Look, Saint Joe was not. He was an old man who stayed way too long, was surrounded by syncophants, yes men, glory long gone and the inability to realize that a grown man that he hired was buggering young boys. So, spin it there Penn State, but the truth is that it happened. You can run, spin, cry the blues, but you cannot escape the fact that you and your school will be forever tainted.


41 posted on 02/09/2013 4:56:42 PM PST by alarm rider (Basically, we are toast.)
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To: NittanyLion

If you truly are holding out judgement on Paterno, then you are one of the few Penn Staters who I’ve talked to, who are.

Most are like the one above claiming it was “illegal for JoePa to know about 1998” Like that is some kind of proof. Most grasp for anything and everything as an excuse. I’m sure they are salivating over this report as a justification for their beliefs. Are you?


42 posted on 02/09/2013 5:13:07 PM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV
If you truly are holding out judgement on Paterno, then you are one of the few Penn Staters who I’ve talked to, who are.

Really? Because I talk to a lot and the majority of them have a hard time reconciling the man's lifelong record with what Louis Freeh claims he did, but simply admit they don't know. Which, after all, is the point of the Paterno team's response.

Louis Freeh doesn't get his next paycheck by producing reports stating that the facts in evidence don't allow for conclusions any more than climate change scientists get government grants by saying they're not sure if it's real. So Freeh drew conclusions based on facts not in evidence and his own inferences, likely intended for use by the university to improve its internal governance. But the NCAA and the public took Freeh's report as gospel and have used it to substantially devalue Paterno's estate and Penn State at large.

Could Freeh's conclusions be true? Yes, it's possible. Can anyone know with enough certainty to make definitive statements or take punitive action? Absolutely not.

43 posted on 02/10/2013 7:16:02 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion

Shocked, the report says JoePa is as pure and innocent as anew born baby. As if there was ever any doubt as to the conclusion.

Enjoy your “proof”. Whatever it takes to get to sleep at night I suppose.

And if people thought penn staters were obnoxious before, after they thump their chests for weeks over this, it will reach whole new levels.


44 posted on 02/10/2013 8:45:46 AM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV
Enjoy your “proof”. Whatever it takes to get to sleep at night I suppose.

What an absolutely bizarre statement. In the post you replied to I actually allowed that he might have done these things when I wrote, "Could Freeh's conclusions be true? Yes, it's possible. Can anyone know with enough certainty to make definitive statements or take punitive action? Absolutely not."

And then you come back with what amounts to a personal attack claiming I'm a closed-minded person looking for anything that supports my belief. When the fact of the matter is that you're the one with the obvious axe to grind. I'm not sure what your own motivation is, but it's clear you're more interested in attacking strawmen then actually debating.

45 posted on 02/10/2013 10:06:53 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: FlJoePa
We just want the truth

The truth is PSU administrators and officials shamefully failed to protect innocent children.

46 posted on 02/10/2013 4:00:24 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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