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.308 Winchester
vanity | 7 Febuary 2013 | M.K.Borders

Posted on 02/07/2013 4:00:51 PM PST by M.K. Borders

Considering an upgrade into. 308 Winchester for some long shooting. Mostly predator hunting but also some competition. Lots of folks pointing me to the Remington 700 but I'm not getting real excited about that particular gun. Don't like that particular nylon stock and the action seems loose. Leaning toward Savage but would like some opinions.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: 308; banglist; guns; hipower; rifle; shooting
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To: M.K. Borders; All

Information/education BUMP! Thanks to all posters.


41 posted on 02/07/2013 4:52:17 PM PST by PGalt
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To: MountainYankee

I have a ‘new’ pre-64 Winchester 70 in ‘06 I bought in 1995. It has possibly the roughest bore I’ve ever seen straight from a factory. Got a decent scope on it.

In September of 2011 I shot a 3-shot, center to center group of 1.10” at 168 yards.

I didn’t think that was too bad for an old geezer (66 at the time) and whoever sees the target on the freezer door agrees.


42 posted on 02/07/2013 4:55:31 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: M.K. Borders

The 110 Savage rocks.

Stay away from the Remington 700 because it has the same trigger problem from the day it was rolled out.


43 posted on 02/07/2013 4:56:45 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Spktyr

I have the 770 and it was supposedly and improvement over the 700. It ain’t but the fancy scope works great.


44 posted on 02/07/2013 4:57:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: D Rider; M.K. Borders

“What’s the predator you are going after...?”

Right! Two legged or four legged?


45 posted on 02/07/2013 5:00:33 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Spktyr

Hmmm...

I just bought the thing because it was suppose to be an improvment. My decision had nothing to with price. Hell, four years ago I was on a spree with Springfield M1A’s, Kimbers, Benelli, etc.

I only cared about performance, reliability and dependability.

Didn’t really get a good deal on the 770. Next time I’ll hold the damn things and run through the items important to me before I plunk down some loot.

Maybe I’ll look into a 700 instead.


46 posted on 02/07/2013 5:07:26 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Oh yeah. Good question. I was assuming two-legged varmints.
47 posted on 02/07/2013 5:08:06 PM PST by Obadiah (We must commit to remove every Senate Blue-dog Democrat from office in 2014!)
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To: M.K. Borders
Leaning toward Savage but would like some opinions.

I like the Savage accu-trigger [reliable even down to 2 pounds, some say less, but I quit there; not all my work is off a bench or sandbag. Also, the extractor on the Savage can be changed out without armorer support, unlike the M700/M40X/M84.

For outranging other .308/ 7.62 NATO rifles, the US Army has gone to the .300 Winchester, while I make do with my old .300 Holland and Holland, on a Pattern 14 Enfield action and with a 26-inch barrel. In your case, since the synthetic stocks are acceptable to you, I might think that the .260 Remington cartridge deserves some of your careful study.

Beyond that: don't completely overlook the classics, the .30-06 and the 7,62x53r Russian. The former might well be found in a long-action Savage, the latter probably not. But the idea of a boltgun in one and a SVD in the other has a lot going for it.

Optics depends a lot on the enviornment and ranges at which you expect to use them. But I like the Elcan quite a bit.

48 posted on 02/07/2013 5:24:25 PM PST by archy
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To: M.K. Borders

By long shooting, what distance do you mean?


49 posted on 02/07/2013 5:24:47 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: M.K. Borders

bump


50 posted on 02/07/2013 5:30:39 PM PST by lafroste
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To: M.K. Borders

I like a Browning .308 BLR. It has a box magazine with a capacity of three magnum or four standard rounds, plus one in the chamber. Good research here:

http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2010/10/browning-lever-action-rifle-blr-by.html

And, here is Browning’s information on the BLR:

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=003b


51 posted on 02/07/2013 5:30:39 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: M.K. Borders
Do you understand the federal government is in the process of gathering intelligence on Americans ownership and possession of firearms from public blog sites like this for confiscation in the future?

Loose lips sink ships!

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!

Eight Deuce on the loose!

52 posted on 02/07/2013 5:39:29 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: M.K. Borders

http://www.ruger.com/products/gunsiteScoutRifle/models.html
Accurate, light, and some really outstanding features.


53 posted on 02/07/2013 5:43:34 PM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: M.K. Borders
I just bought a Savage Axis in .223. It is a tack-driver. Getting well under 1" groups at a hundred yards.

But I got buyer's remorse.

I wish I had bought this (Marlin XTVH) instead:

The heavy barrel isn't for accuracy. A thin barrel can give you that. The heavy barrel is to dissipate the heat when you shoot more than a couple of rounds in a row. When the barrel heats up, the impact point can shift with a skinnier barrel.

54 posted on 02/07/2013 5:46:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: M.K. Borders
My Aunt has a Winchester Model 88 in .308....she loves it.

Close groups for her at 500 yds.

I hear that they either shoot lights out...or not.

Her's apparently does shoot very fine.

My Aunt say's it's an older gun...60's or so.

55 posted on 02/07/2013 5:58:04 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: M.K. Borders

Try the Tikka T3 - was “gun of the year” or something like that a few years back. Friend picked up a barely used model with Leopold scope for $900. Very, very pleased with deal and gun. Savage F10 is very similar. For overall value, Savage is hard to beat. However, be advised that discounts are not available as these guns are flying off the shelf. Local gunshop couldn’t get one from his wholesaler as he was sold out.


56 posted on 02/07/2013 6:01:39 PM PST by Boomer One
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To: M.K. Borders

Many swear by the Howa 1500

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/411549688


57 posted on 02/07/2013 6:03:12 PM PST by ez (Laws only apply to little people. Criminals, politicians, and newsies are exempt.)
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To: M.K. Borders
Remington Model 700 BDL 308 excellent firearm. Had one for years and no problem taking down a deer.


58 posted on 02/07/2013 6:03:46 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: PGalt

I have three rifles in .308. A Rem 700, Ruger M77, and a Weatherby Vanguard. All three being excellent rifles, I have a preference for the Weatherby. I live on my own 160 acre farm, and I can literally walk out of my house and shoot long distances. I like the two stage trigger on the Weatherby, and it feels a bit beefier than the other rifles, which helps me on the long shots. Weatherby Vanguards are guaranteed sub-MOA accuracy with premium ammo. I don’t know if they still do this, but Weatherby packed the three-shot test target with my rifle, and all three shots were touching, with two of them at first glance looking like they were the same hole. I think Howa made the action on the Weatherby, and it feels better than the other two guns.

That being said, I’ve heard a lot of good things about the new Ruger All-American rifle. The first being accuracy.


59 posted on 02/07/2013 6:05:25 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve

For those who do not know, the Howa M1500 and the Weatherby Vanguard 2 are essentially the same rifle. Both can be modified with a new trigger guard to accept 5 and 10 round magazines. My link above shows a M1500 with excellent glass for under $600.


60 posted on 02/07/2013 6:11:17 PM PST by ez (Laws only apply to little people. Criminals, politicians, and newsies are exempt.)
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