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Posted on 02/07/2013 4:00:51 PM PST by M.K. Borders
Considering an upgrade into. 308 Winchester for some long shooting. Mostly predator hunting but also some competition. Lots of folks pointing me to the Remington 700 but I'm not getting real excited about that particular gun. Don't like that particular nylon stock and the action seems loose. Leaning toward Savage but would like some opinions.
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I have a ‘new’ pre-64 Winchester 70 in ‘06 I bought in 1995. It has possibly the roughest bore I’ve ever seen straight from a factory. Got a decent scope on it.
In September of 2011 I shot a 3-shot, center to center group of 1.10” at 168 yards.
I didn’t think that was too bad for an old geezer (66 at the time) and whoever sees the target on the freezer door agrees.
The 110 Savage rocks.
Stay away from the Remington 700 because it has the same trigger problem from the day it was rolled out.
I have the 770 and it was supposedly and improvement over the 700. It ain’t but the fancy scope works great.
“What’s the predator you are going after...?”
Right! Two legged or four legged?
I just bought the thing because it was suppose to be an improvment. My decision had nothing to with price. Hell, four years ago I was on a spree with Springfield M1A’s, Kimbers, Benelli, etc.
I only cared about performance, reliability and dependability.
Didn’t really get a good deal on the 770. Next time I’ll hold the damn things and run through the items important to me before I plunk down some loot.
Maybe I’ll look into a 700 instead.
I like the Savage accu-trigger [reliable even down to 2 pounds, some say less, but I quit there; not all my work is off a bench or sandbag. Also, the extractor on the Savage can be changed out without armorer support, unlike the M700/M40X/M84.
For outranging other .308/ 7.62 NATO rifles, the US Army has gone to the .300 Winchester, while I make do with my old .300 Holland and Holland, on a Pattern 14 Enfield action and with a 26-inch barrel. In your case, since the synthetic stocks are acceptable to you, I might think that the .260 Remington cartridge deserves some of your careful study.
Beyond that: don't completely overlook the classics, the .30-06 and the 7,62x53r Russian. The former might well be found in a long-action Savage, the latter probably not. But the idea of a boltgun in one and a SVD in the other has a lot going for it.
Optics depends a lot on the enviornment and ranges at which you expect to use them. But I like the Elcan quite a bit.
By long shooting, what distance do you mean?
I like a Browning .308 BLR. It has a box magazine with a capacity of three magnum or four standard rounds, plus one in the chamber. Good research here:
And, here is Browning’s information on the BLR:
Loose lips sink ships!
Eight Deuce on the loose!
Accurate, light, and some really outstanding features.
But I got buyer's remorse.
I wish I had bought this (Marlin XTVH) instead:
The heavy barrel isn't for accuracy. A thin barrel can give you that. The heavy barrel is to dissipate the heat when you shoot more than a couple of rounds in a row. When the barrel heats up, the impact point can shift with a skinnier barrel.
Close groups for her at 500 yds.
I hear that they either shoot lights out...or not.
Her's apparently does shoot very fine.
My Aunt say's it's an older gun...60's or so.
Try the Tikka T3 - was “gun of the year” or something like that a few years back. Friend picked up a barely used model with Leopold scope for $900. Very, very pleased with deal and gun. Savage F10 is very similar. For overall value, Savage is hard to beat. However, be advised that discounts are not available as these guns are flying off the shelf. Local gunshop couldn’t get one from his wholesaler as he was sold out.
Many swear by the Howa 1500
I have three rifles in .308. A Rem 700, Ruger M77, and a Weatherby Vanguard. All three being excellent rifles, I have a preference for the Weatherby. I live on my own 160 acre farm, and I can literally walk out of my house and shoot long distances. I like the two stage trigger on the Weatherby, and it feels a bit beefier than the other rifles, which helps me on the long shots. Weatherby Vanguards are guaranteed sub-MOA accuracy with premium ammo. I don’t know if they still do this, but Weatherby packed the three-shot test target with my rifle, and all three shots were touching, with two of them at first glance looking like they were the same hole. I think Howa made the action on the Weatherby, and it feels better than the other two guns.
That being said, I’ve heard a lot of good things about the new Ruger All-American rifle. The first being accuracy.
For those who do not know, the Howa M1500 and the Weatherby Vanguard 2 are essentially the same rifle. Both can be modified with a new trigger guard to accept 5 and 10 round magazines. My link above shows a M1500 with excellent glass for under $600.
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