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Joe Paterno's widow to appear on Katie Couric's talk show
LA Times ^ | 2-5-13 | Chuck Schilken

Posted on 02/05/2013 6:24:16 PM PST by FlJoePa

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To: Uncle Chip

CatherineofAragon, Daryl Dixson, & Old Sarge vs. Wick Sollers and Paul Kelly.

lol.


41 posted on 02/05/2013 9:03:40 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Uncle Chip
Sandusky was permitted by his retirement agreement with the university to bring kids to the football facilities over Joe Paterno's objections that were documented and in writing.

Then I'd say that Paterno's objections weren't forceful enough, wouldn't you? We're talking legendary Coach/CEO Paterno, not some unknown.

42 posted on 02/05/2013 9:10:07 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Uncle Chip
he wasn't the Director of the 2nd Mile Charity, the Director of Child Welfare Services, the Director of the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, the Athletic Director, the VP of the University or the President of the University, the PA Attorney General, or the PA Governor

He was more powerful and just as negligent as the aforementioned.

43 posted on 02/05/2013 9:15:46 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: dead
"Paterno called Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

It appears that you forgot to read this part: "and Paterno's immediate superior"

Read it and let it sink in.

44 posted on 02/05/2013 9:16:18 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: FlJoePa

I would have gone to the police myself. That’s the difference in standard twixt he and me.


45 posted on 02/05/2013 9:22:01 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Uncle Chip
You haven't read the Freeh report have you???

What is it that you fail to comprehend?

Freeh report condemns Paterno

Thursday, 12 July 2012 08:50

Written by Bob Smizik

Special investigator Louis Freeh came down hard on Penn State officials -- including Joe Paterno -- in his 267-page report of the university's handling of the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

By Jon Schmitz, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A special investigator today condemned Penn State University leadership for what he called "the total disregard for the safety and welfare" of children who were sexually abused by former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky.

"The most powerful men at Penn State failed to take any steps for 14 years to protect the children who Sandusky victimized," investigator Louis Freeh said in remarks prepared for a 10 a.m. news conference.

In his 267-page report, he named names.

"Four of the most powerful people at The Pennsylvania State University -- President Graham B. Spanier, Senior Vice President-Finance Gary C. Schultz, Athletic Director Timothy M. Curley and Head Football Coach Joseph V. Paterno -- failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade," according to the report. "These men concealed Sandusky's activities from the Board of Trustees, the University community and authorities. They exhibited a striking lack of empathy for Sandusky's victims by failing to inquire as to their safety and well-being, especially by not attempting to determine the identity of the child who Sandusky assaulted in the Lasch Building in 2001.

46 posted on 02/05/2013 9:22:20 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Then I'd say that Paterno's objections weren't forceful enough, wouldn't you?

Oh Please!!! It says that his influence in things other than the football program was limited -- even and especially regarding a retirement agreement between a tenured professor and the Board of Trustees.

If Paterno was so all powerful at PSU then how come they granted terms of this agreement over his wishes -- no matter how they were expressed???

47 posted on 02/05/2013 9:25:29 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alaska Wolf

If he was so powerful, how did he get fired?

Maybe you should look at the people that fired him - the b.o.t. - who had far more contact w/ the second mile than Joe Paterno ever did.


48 posted on 02/05/2013 9:26:29 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: onedoug

You don’t know what MM told Joe onedoug. According to Franco - who asked MM point blank what he told Joe - he said he told Joe basically nothing.

Why aren’t these trials proceeding? I’ll give a good guess - there ain’t no there, there.

MM saw horseplay, reported horseplay, and years later changed his tune once the AG’s office cornered him.

Joe in an 84 year old’s way trying to help is coached into using words he never used in his life - like “sexual” and “fondling”.


49 posted on 02/05/2013 9:32:33 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Alaska Wolf
He was more powerful

and yet this all powerful person was fired.

Right!!!

50 posted on 02/05/2013 9:33:11 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Yes, I read that and it sunk in.

I've never had an "immediate supervisor" who could tell me that I had to let a child rapist continue his activities.

I never had a job that meant that much to me and I never will.

Joe did. Let that sink in a while.

51 posted on 02/05/2013 9:33:40 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: FlJoePa
If he was so powerful, how did he get fired?

Because as the PSU figurehead, he turned out to be a disgrace. Are you really so blind?

52 posted on 02/05/2013 9:35:11 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: onedoug
I would have gone to the police myself.

With what evidence???

You would have brought a major lawsuit down on yourself.

53 posted on 02/05/2013 9:36:26 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Alaska Wolf

Here — take the test and see how you do???

http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/default/files/JZ_Penn_State_Poll_MQ_120813.pdf

and then explain why you failed it big time.


54 posted on 02/05/2013 9:39:42 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Oh Please!!!

There are no excuses for the reprehensible conduct of the most powerful people at PSU. Why do you defend them?

55 posted on 02/05/2013 9:39:42 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Uncle Chip

It will be interesting to hear what Sue has to say. The haters don’t understand that she is maybe as beloved as Joe was.

Like I said, I believe something is coming sooner. Blair Thomas hinted to “DVR espn on Sunday”.

That leads me to believe it is Kelly and the Lettermen. Gonna be an interesting month.


56 posted on 02/05/2013 9:42:59 PM PST by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Alaska Wolf
There are no excuses for the reprehensible conduct of the most powerful people at PSU. Why do you defend them?

How is it reprehensible to meet with a graduate assistant reporting an incident he claims to have witnessed one day and then meet with your immediate superior and pass that to him a day later.

What's reprehensible are Monday morning quarterbacks who can't get their facts straight.

57 posted on 02/05/2013 9:44:58 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Here — take the test

I don't need to take a test to distinguish between moral/immoral, lawful/criminal, good/bad or virtuous/evil. Do you?

58 posted on 02/05/2013 9:53:43 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: FlJoePa; Uncle Chip
I agree that Spanier (along with maybe some others) is the main villain in all of this. He deserves to have his life destroyed and should be in prison.

I do think you all are missing a great deal concerning Joe's responsibility in this. Compare this to say, Benghazi. You appear to be taking the side of "what does it matter?". Compare it to any really heavy personal knowledge of a horrible crime, you don't just hand it off, wash your hands and never say anything again just to go about your business. Were those Germans that knew about the holocaust innocent? Are the journalists that won't cover the crimes of this administration innocent?

It's really hard to swallow a cry of genuine innocence on Joe Paterno's part. The best thing you can say is he failed to do what he should have done at a critical time in his life. To say all he should have ever done is hand it off and wash his hands is to ignore the virtues of courage, fortitude, and honesty we all commend in a hero when they do the right thing under duress. There are a lot worse scenarios that you can surmise from Joe's failings, and you seem incapable of seeing the possibility that he failed in any way. That's simply inconceivable.

59 posted on 02/05/2013 9:55:44 PM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Uncle Chip
How is it reprehensible to meet with a graduate assistant reporting an incident

Throwing out senseless strawman BS does nothing but show your desperation. Paterno WAS Penn State, he screwed up royally. He paid the price for being negligent. God and the victims of his negligence will have to forgive him.

60 posted on 02/05/2013 10:02:29 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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