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Freep a Poll! (Fox. Should Congress approve comprehensive immigration reform?)
foxnews.com ^ | 1-28-13 | Fox News

Posted on 01/28/2013 4:06:10 PM PST by dynachrome

Should Congress approve comprehensive immigration reform?

No -- there's no need for it, and Congress won't get it done anyway

Yes, with an emphasis on the pathway to legal status for illegal immigrants who are here

Congress should address this through a series of bills, as opposed to one massive package

Yes, but any deal must secure the border

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: foxnews; illegals; immigration; poll
Enforce current law? Law seems to be whatever obozo feels like any given day.
1 posted on 01/28/2013 4:06:19 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

What a screwy manipulative poll.


2 posted on 01/28/2013 4:10:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dynachrome

the part that worries me is “Creating an effective employment verification system to ensure that employers do not hire illegal immigrants.”

THAT, to Me, reads like a National ID system for ALL working age people.
Putting “ID cards” Hagel into office just add to my worry.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 4:11:55 PM PST by PizzaDriver ( on)
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To: dynachrome

4 posted on 01/28/2013 4:13:27 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: dynachrome

Fellow FReepers, I sent a pointed email to my congressional reps this afternoon using Congress.org stating my opposition to the proposed framework for immigration reform. After that, I am no longer gettin notices from Congress.org that thanks me for using them and including the text of the email I sent. Has anyone ever been banned from Congress.org?


5 posted on 01/28/2013 4:18:35 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
Thanks to GopherBroke for this one!

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. (multiple votes using multiple internetz devices are allowed!) And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

6 posted on 01/28/2013 4:19:53 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
Thanks to GopherBroke for this one!

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. (multiple votes using multiple internetz devices are allowed!) And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

7 posted on 01/28/2013 4:20:51 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: TigersEye

There you go.

Problem solved.


8 posted on 01/28/2013 4:20:51 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: TigersEye

Even S.E. Cupp is on board with Rubio plan.


9 posted on 01/28/2013 4:22:35 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: patriotsblood

Every day by way of twitter I’m sending my senators and congressman the name of an American killed by an illegal alien in my state in recent years. Twitter is great because my followers can see it and the recipient’s followers can see it too.

Lenin and Stupidcow are silent but my congressman has thanked me for every one.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 4:22:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: itsahoot
Thanks. I think it would entirely solve the problem.

Tweaking laws and regulations concerning legal immigration and temporary visas is (should be) an entirely separate issue.

11 posted on 01/28/2013 4:24:25 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: itsahoot
I heard Rubio extrapolate on his plan on some Fox News program about a week ago. It's not what I see FReepers say it is. He said illegals would be required to declare themselves, be very limited in services available to them, wait several years before being allowed to apply for citizenship and must go to the back of the line behind everyone who had applied by the legal route.

Stated that way I don't have a big problem with it. But when he stands beside Schmuckey Schumer and Juan McLame I start to doubt that Rubio's word is worth the wrapper on a parking lot burrito.

12 posted on 01/28/2013 4:33:23 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: dynachrome

This is an outrage. The elites that run the media are ramming this down our throats just as they are trying to do with gun control.

Now the GOP can’t vote for amnesty fast enough because they think it will make them competitive. What we need is a third America First Party and it would both of them out of business.

Both Parties are corrupt and in the bag of global corporations and banksters and other countries. They’ve used and abused us for too long. They play conservatism or liberalism as a “theory” when it allows them to manipulate and pull our strings. The same people that want amnesty for illegals want your firearms too.

Larry Kudlow the “club for growth” hack of CNBC and Wall St said tonight that we need this. It’s pro growth. No Larry..... it’s pro globalism and it will screw America to the tune of trillions just as our trade policies have done. But Larry is a card carrying member of the New Yorker elite club and he won’t pay.....the rest of the USA will.

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/06/amnesty-will-cost-us-taxpayers-at-least-26-trillion


13 posted on 01/28/2013 4:34:25 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: dynachrome

How is this to help with unemployment? I am tired of my elected reps looking out for illegals rather than their own citizens. It’s is way past time for states to begin succeeding. Let the North Eastern and California liberals take on the burden of illegal immigrants and let the rest of the country alone.


14 posted on 01/28/2013 4:44:40 PM PST by TonyM
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To: TigersEye

Rubio is a liar and snake .

He went on Mark Levin show and said a pack of lies that he
Decided to correct two days later ‘

It’s The same McCain - graham Amnesty bill from 2006 !
Nothing has changed !


15 posted on 01/28/2013 4:57:43 PM PST by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: dynachrome
How you philosophically jump from illegally entering a sovereign foreign country, living there underground for years -- most likely in violation of a host of other laws in addition to having made false identifications to get anything done....all the way to BEING GRANTED CITIZENSHIP FOR THAT WRONGED, VIOLATED AND INSULTED COUNTRY!??

Why this is just absolutely ludicrous. Illegally entering the US should be immediate grounds for never being eligible to be a citizen of it.

THIS IS SHEER INSANITY AND VIEWED FROM A GLOBAL CONTEXT, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS SIMPLY OUT OF ITS MIND TO EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ALLOWING THIS AT SOME TIME.

PS I hope we can see someone get into the inside of the Democratic National Committee headquarters as a plant for a year or two, gain confidence, and then spirit out what MUST BE the existence of their internal DNC demographic plans showing that by naturalizing massive numbers of illegal aliens from entitled Third World Nations (mostly Latin America) they can turn themselves into an unchallenged majority party with interrupted power for years. There MUST be such a report. To have a Conservative Republican Congressman release it in public at JUST THE RIGHT TIME would be brilliant. And we know precisely this is their plans, the RINOs going along with it like sleep to the slaughter, lobbying for their own extinction. Madness!! Shame on Rubio for falling in with this crowd. It will bring our Party NO GOOD and it will bring out country a WORLD OF HEARTACHE .


16 posted on 01/28/2013 5:00:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Global tyrants deserve Mussolini Treatment: Hung up by the heels after the sh*t kicked out of them)
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To: ncalburt

OK


17 posted on 01/28/2013 5:01:15 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: apoliticalone

Kudlow is a crook and fraud .

We are giving 30 ion people Obamacare !
It’s called Medicaid with this plan !
We have massive unemployment and we adding more
Dem entitlement !


18 posted on 01/28/2013 5:01:51 PM PST by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree. This country is so screwed.


19 posted on 01/28/2013 5:05:26 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: ncalburt

Illegals are nothing but government growth hormone.

30 million illegals is enough to create some 50 new primarily democrat congressional districts with all the expenses, earmarks, pork, entitlements, and liberal votes they can muster.

Anyone who supports this crap and calls themselves a conservative is a liar.


20 posted on 01/28/2013 5:07:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dynachrome

Got this response from my libtard senator when I registered my aggravation that we are having this debate, yet again...

“Thank you for getting in touch with me about immigration reform. I agree that our immigration system is broken.

It is time we undertake comprehensive immigration reform that secures our borders, maximizes American economic prosperity, provides a path to citizenship with fair and rigorous requirements, and imposes tough sanctions on employers who break the law.

I support efforts to curb illegal immigration such as increasing criminal penalties for immigrant smuggling and document fraud and eliminating or modifying the use of government documents that are easily forged. Better enforcement and tougher penalties for employers who employ undocumented immigrants are among the important steps we must take to fight unlawful employment opportunities — the major driving force behind illegal immigration.

While I do not support amnesty, I believe our nation should consider establishing a process by which undocumented immigrants can eventually earn citizenship. We should provide children — who were brought to this country through no fault of their own — the opportunity to contribute to their local communities and our nation.

The solution to our immigration problem will not be a simple one, but it is time to take a common sense approach to immigration reform.

Thank you again for being in touch with me.”


21 posted on 01/28/2013 5:14:25 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly !!

I knew that gun ban was set up as a media diversion to ram thru Amnesty while our attention was focused elsewhere !

That vile Grahamnesty is reelection in 2014!

He needs to be removed this time !
This crowd needs to pay a price for selling us out to there K st lobbyists in
. Big Ag and massive grocery chain stores !


22 posted on 01/28/2013 5:20:32 PM PST by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly !!

I knew that gun ban was set up as a media diversion to ram thru Amnesty while our attention was focused elsewhere !

That vile Grahamnesty is up for reelection
in 2014!

He needs to be removed this time !

This crowd needs to pay a price for selling us out to there K st lobbyists in
. Big Ag and massive grocery chain stores !


23 posted on 01/28/2013 5:21:12 PM PST by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: TigersEye
•Deport illegal aliens on contact with LE.
•Enforce the law vigorously on employers of illegals.
•Strong border security. Build the physical fence and use high-tech surveillance.
•Eliminate entitlements for illegal aliens except for true emergency care.
•End the "anchor baby" policy.


TRUST ME, not even having seen the plan, NONE of these items will be included - or should I say will be SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED.
24 posted on 01/28/2013 5:36:50 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

No doubt about it.


25 posted on 01/28/2013 5:44:39 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: apoliticalone

“What we need is a third America First Party...”

I agree friend, when do we get started?


26 posted on 01/28/2013 6:19:25 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: dynachrome

FReeEEeePED:

NOPE!

We know how “amnesty” turned out last time!! There will be NO deal to “secure” the border — whatever that means.

Yes, with an emphasis on the pathway to legal status for illegal immigrants who are here 8.31%

Yes, but any deal must secure the border 45.83%

Congress should address this through a series of bills, as opposed to one massive package 18.66%

No — there’s no need for it, and Congress won’t get it done anyway 27.2%


27 posted on 01/28/2013 6:52:25 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Instant Human....Add Coffee)
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To: itsahoot
SE Cupp is co-author of Why You're Wrong About the Right, a book that holds that those on the right don't have to believe in anything conservative.
28 posted on 01/28/2013 6:56:13 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: TigersEye

There is a step one, which makes illegals, legal, there would be no need to bother with the other steps, no one is going to make them obey the rules or ask them to leave. They would have legal status and that is all they would desire.


29 posted on 01/28/2013 11:18:49 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: itsahoot
According to Rubio's plan they would have to apply for it to get that legal status. Under it they wouldn't be eligible for any Federal benefits so I don't think they would get all they desire there. He also said that the whole thing hinges on strong border security and enforcement too.

But don't get excited, I'm not buying into it. First, who will enforce the security and enforcement? Second, it will still spur a flood of new illegals who think they can get in on it regardless if they can or not. Thirdly, how will they know who was here the day the law was signed and who came after that? Fourthly, Rubio's plan sounds very reasonable and he sounds sincere but I know and you know it's only a sales pitch and by the time the House and Senate get through bouncing it back and forth it won't have one tenth of what he's talking about left in it. And it will have a load of crap that's outrageous no doubt including a few billion in pork for things that are totally unrelated to borders, illegals or immigration.

30 posted on 01/28/2013 11:40:46 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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