Seems like a strategy focused on retreating instead of advancing. We don’t need to preserve a slice of traditional America under glass in a museum, we need to restore the whole country.
I just completed a dog cart I envisioned and built out of schedule 40, for my wife and alpha Lab.
What? .. You want ME to ride that thing ??
/8^)
He didn’t say anything about schools and I would be ... a bit cautious that it would be a Mormon endeavor.
I don’t have anything AGAINST Mormons... but I’m not one.
I think our government would do their best to sabotage it, that’s what I think. Especially if it started to make THEIR model look bad.
Let's go out swinging Glenn...
“Independence, USA” seems to be Beck’s attempt to re-create the original Independence, Missouri, founded in the 1830’s by Mormon leader Joseph Smith. Smith said that Independence had been the site of the Garden of Eden and would be the New Jerusalem.
Is this Glenn’s own Agenda 21?
That makes it easier for the government to bomb it out.
I like Utopia, Vendome which lives inside me.
Beck is promoting a utopian and insular society that is both exclusive for it’s clique and completely unwelcoming to protect the inhabitants of what should be an island, far removed society, distant and ineffective to influence change.
He should move to Utah or Northern Idaho...
Glenn’s gone crazy.
I say that although Beck considers himself some sort of messiah, the reality is that he’s just a self-promoting asshole.
They already have Silver Dollar City outside Branson./s
Glenn wants to start his own cult. If his plans are good, why build new?
USE DETROIT-if the plan works there it will restore America, but integrate. If you don’t integrate, you do not have the solution.
I think it sounds like a fine idea. I subscribe to The Blaze and stay up on what’s being planned. I see nothing wrong with having an area like this that can be used for learning and trying new things like energy, growing food, ... I’m sure the real history of this country will be preserved there with David Barton’s help and not the propaganda version the progressives are pushing on everyone. I don’t know why anyone would want to shoot this down.
Although I used to be a big fan, these days, Beck kinda creeps me out. There egotists always come up with a theme park/resort kind of idea, remember the Bakers?
Is Glenn Beck back to drinking Beck Beer? Or What? A Utopia? Beck claims he is a student of History.
Americas history on Utopia dreams
Massachusetts Bay Colony -(how did that socialist dream work out)
Amana Colonies (Iowa), Hutterites (North Dakota) Oneida (Ohio)
Mormon Cities Navvou, Illinois, Independence, Missouri and Salt Lake City, Utah
Zion, Illinois
Jim Jones Cult in Central America
Branch Davidian Waco Texas
Numerous Polygmyist Cults
CC
Isn’t this how America began?
Sure, the Pilgrims could’ve stayed home and fought the tyrants - and lost. But instead, when they saw a chance for self-government and freedom, they took it in spite of the cost.
There’s a good deal of bashing of “closed communities” on FreeRepublic. HOAs are a great example. Yet despite their flaws and occasional abuses of power, these are at least attempts at self-government. Why should that be so objectionable on a site like this, where we rail constantly against big government?
Beck’s experiment might turn out like the disappointing “Free State Project”, which aimed at a political takeover of New Hampshire to promote freedom. Libertarians screwed that up, it seems; and Beck leans in the same direction. The Pilgrims weren’t so foolish, so they at least avoided one major poison of freedom.
The ability - and the right - of self-government are the underlying principles of the Declaration and the Revolution. They’re not “utopian”; they are what permit and promote freedom and a free republic.
I never cared much for Beck’s radio show. But from what I saw of him when he was on Fox, this Independence, USA idea fits the direction he was headed. We might not agree with that direction, but at least he’s not one to sit still a la Rush or Boortz, et al.
Those who live in counties with Sheriffs who have pledged not to enforce unconstitutional laws must now ask them if they will protect residents against federal law enforcement who attempt to enforce those laws. Then a plan of dealing with that situation should be talked about. Local law enforcement and armed residents need to be organized to work together.
While the msm has smeared the word “militia”, and has changed the way they are viewed by many, they are still important. There have been some great modern advances within the patriot movement based on that, but I wonder if too much organization has been lost by the real fear of being compromised by the government. A much larger number of smaller less public militias made up of neighbors, built on the same model as a neighborhood watch, seems like a good idea. These types of militias can't be expected to have the quality of a military combat unit, but neither did most militias from our past.
I think organization is needed at some level to keep order among everyone. This local organization may just include some friends and family, but is something I see as crucial. Many will need to provide some leadership for those people around them in the immediate aftermath of a sudden event. Even some of those who think they are prepared will panic when they get cut off overnight.
www.OathKeepers.org
Never work because limited government means no kick back to the senate and congress critters,and lobbyists would be out of a job.