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To: Lakeshark
I read the grand jury report which was published in full by the New York Times. I read the report of a retired PSU trustee who was coming out of retirement seeking to return specifically over this disgraceful episode. Did you read either in full? I suspect not or you would not post as you have. What you have is speculation and, based upon that speculation, you are laying major blame on Joe Paterno. According to the rules of the university which bound him by contract, Paterno did exactly what he was supposed to do.

You can argue that he should have violated the university rules and personally brought the matter to the attention of some law enforcement authority and certainly that is an emotionally satisfying position. It does not get the job done.

First, the only law enforcement that MIGHT have taken a report was the Pennsylvania State University Police Department. They are sworn officers who are under the jurisdiction of the two CIVILIAN university authorities to whom he reported: Curley and Schultz (???)(in any event the two who are indicted and pending trial for covering up the matter. They in turn were subordinates of lavender queen enabling Graham Spanier who was everybody's boss at Penn State. He needs to be indicted, convicted and sent into general population at a maximum security facility in Pennsylvania and NOT retain his tenure as a sociology professor, not be working for Obozo in DC, and not allowed on campus or in any proximity to the young of any age, etc.

Next, I am drinking no kool aid. Are you drinking the CYA kool aid of Graham Spanier and the PSU fairies??? NO ONE claims that Paterno witnessed anything personally. He did report to Curley and Schultz(?) even though he had no direct evidence whatsoever of child rape by Sandusky. All he had was the report of the quite noncredible McQueary that McQueary HEARD noises from the shower room (slapping noises???) that he thought indicated the rape of a young boy by pervert Sandusky. McQueary did not even look into the shower room to confirm his suspicions nor did he interfere to stop the rape if that is what occurred on that occasion nor did McQUEARY (the only adult witness if that is what he was) report this to law enforcement. So you would hang Paterno for not running to the Bellefont Police, the Centre County Sheriff, the Pennsylvania State Police (all of whom would have referred him back to the Penn State Police out of rigid professional courtesy and turf considerations). The Penn State Police exist to do precisely what they are told by university higher ups. When supervised by civilian school administration hacks, they will be part of the problem and not the solution since they exist to keep other cops away and to cover university authorities. That is how it works at Yale and UConn and, no doubt, at Penn State.

You want to hold Paterno to account for not reporting McQueary's half vast suspicions and surmises and guesses to law enforcement just in case on a matter that seemed unlikely to be successfully investigated because McQueary could not muster the manhood to interfere with pervert Sandusky who was old enough to be McQueary's grandfather and put a stop to the rape of the child (IF that was what had occurred on that occasion).

I did not say anything that you claim I said. More sloppy speculation or sloppy accusation.

All you or anyone else has on Paterno is that maybe McQueary was a witness, that McQueary did NOTHING to stop the incident if there was one, did not interfere in any way, did not eyeball the victim, did not so much as say: Gerry you are a dirty old man or child rapist, did not report to ANYONE for days, and that his speculations under such circumstances, filleed with giant holes, were to be regarded by Paterno and by university officials and by potential law enforcement responders as though they were revelations of the Oracle at Delphi. And you accuse ME of drinking kool aid????

Read your last sentence of your post aloud three or more times while watching yourself in the mirror.

33 posted on 01/28/2013 10:09:49 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Broil 'em now!!!)
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To: BlackElk
So, you're suggesting the average person wouldn't, you know, have followed up on a report of raping a boy in a shower to find out what happened? I know, a yawner, a trifle, a man of his stature and importance shouldn't be interested in following up on the safety of minors from a man in a position to exploit them......

Good grief man, get a grip.

Are you also suggesting he knew nothing of earlier reports, when it is probable he did?

Are you also suggesting that the obvious explanation, that he might want to cover up these incidents because of his trajectory to be the winningest coach of all time, with one of the best football programs of all time as a legacy isn't the likely truth?

It's a far more likely explanation than what you've given, and in spite of protestations it's clear you HAVE drunk the kool aid.

36 posted on 01/29/2013 7:23:55 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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