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European Patent Granted for Francesco Piantelliís LENR Process
Register, European Patent Office register.epo.org ^ | January 18, 2013 | Admin

Posted on 01/24/2013 1:20:17 PM PST by Kevmo

European Patent Granted for Francesco Piantelli’s LENR Process

January 18, 2013 By admin

The European Patent office has granted a patent for the Francesco Piantelli’s invention of process for producing energy from a nickel-hydrogen reaction.

European Patent Office published the certificate on January 16th, 2013. All documents associated with this application can be found here.

https://register.epo.org/espacenet/application?number=EP09806118&lng=en&tab=doclist

Sergio Focardi, who assisted Andrea Rossi in the development of the E-Cat had worked with Piantelli in the study and development of LENR from nickel-hydrogen processes.

UPDATE:

Here is a link to the full text of the patent, hosted on Daniele Passerini’s site:

http://www.22passi.it/downloads/EP2368252B1[1].pdf


TOPICS: History; Reference; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: canr; cmns; coldfusion; lenr
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1 posted on 01/24/2013 1:20:25 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://lenr-canr.org/


2 posted on 01/24/2013 1:22:55 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: All; y'all

Here is a link to the full text of the patent, hosted on Daniele Passerini’s site:

http://www.22passi.it/downloads/EP2368252B1[1].pdf


3 posted on 01/24/2013 1:24:36 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

So what? The patent office does not examine whether the applied-for invention actually works or not.

The criteria for patentability are, by legal definition (in this case, Articles 52 - 54 of the European Patent Convention):

1. Novelty (i.e., not formerly described in any *one* single disclosure.)

2. Non-obviousness (i.e., not being able to be derived from a *combination* of prior disclosures.)

3. Industrial applicability (i.e., can conceivably be manufactured or used in industry - this does *not* mean it actually works as claimed. This criterium is more concerned with excluding certain inventions - such as medical procedures - from being patentable.)

The patent office does not care whether or not it works. That’s for the *market* to decide.

But since this great invention has been - as per your prior proclamations pimping Rossi - creating unlimited free energy for over a year now....oh, wait...it hasn’t, actually?

Oh, my. As Reagan once said, “there you go again...”


4 posted on 01/24/2013 2:02:22 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Kevmo

Is this Hugh and Series?........


5 posted on 01/24/2013 2:02:30 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Moltke

per your prior proclamations pimping Rossi
***Typical personal attack

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


6 posted on 01/24/2013 2:10:13 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
***Typical personal attack

A.k.a., statement of fact.

How about a comment on Articles 52 - 54 of the EPC, and how the granting of a patent for that sham is utterly irrelevant?

7 posted on 01/24/2013 2:56:55 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Moltke

a.k.a., a typical personal attack. Care to add anything constructive to the scientific & engineering process?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


8 posted on 01/24/2013 3:06:42 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
As your top post contains no scientific or engineering material, I could not add anything in that regard even if I wanted to.

How about a comment *from you* on Articles 52 - 54 of the EPC, and how the granting of a patent for that sham is utterly irrelevant?

Because *that* is what this thread is about. And *you* posted it.

9 posted on 01/24/2013 3:52:08 PM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Moltke

Thanks for bumping the thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19


10 posted on 01/24/2013 5:28:47 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Moltke

LENR is an interesting subject. Your comments about the requirements for a patent from the European Union are also interesting. Personal disparagements about one’s motives for posting are not.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 5:58:19 PM PST by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: Kevmo
Sergio Focardi, who assisted Andrea Rossi in the development of the E-Cat had worked with Piantelli in the study and development of LENR from nickel-hydrogen processes.

Once again, Rossi the con artist has to be mentioned.

12 posted on 01/24/2013 6:44:26 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moltke
The patent office does not care whether or not it works. That’s for the *market* to decide.

The USPTO won't even look at a LENR or cold fusion patent application, because over here it does matter whether it works or not.

13 posted on 01/24/2013 6:48:31 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
I found the actual source for your article:

http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/01/european-patent-granted-for-francesco-piantellis-lenr-process/

An Ecat blog of course. No wonder it mentions Rossi.

14 posted on 01/24/2013 7:36:24 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo

Let us know how much of your own money you invest in it.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 8:12:43 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Moonman62
The USPTO won't even look at a LENR or cold fusion patent application, because over here it does matter whether it works or not.

I'm afraid you are thoroughly mistaken on that point.

Exhibit A: US Patent 6,025,810 - "Hyper Light Speed Antenna"

The present invention takes a transmission of energy, and instead of sending through normal time and space, it pokes a small hole into another dimension, thus sending the energy through a place which allows transmission of energy to exceed the speed of light.

Read the whole thing, it's a hoot.

The sad fact is that the USPTO grants about an order of magnitude more silly patents than the EPO. Simply because the US patentability limitations are broader (business methods etc.). Other than that the same three criteria I outlined in my initial post apply.

16 posted on 01/25/2013 5:04:11 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Controlling Legal Authority
Your comments about the requirements for a patent from the European Union are also interesting.

Those requirements are pretty much universal; they apply for US patents as well. Also see my post #16.

17 posted on 01/25/2013 5:19:15 AM PST by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Kevmo

Any announcement of a demonstration of the device at an independent lab? Preferably a long-running demonstration?


18 posted on 01/25/2013 5:52:38 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PLMerite

I’d love to invest in it.

How I Made Money from Cold Fusion

Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:28:49 PM · by Kevmo · 31 replies · 1,013+ views

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts


19 posted on 01/25/2013 8:17:14 AM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Moltke
The sad fact is that the USPTO grants about an order of magnitude more silly patents than the EPO.

I've still got to give them credit for dismissing cold fusion applications without wasting their time looking at them.

20 posted on 01/25/2013 10:14:20 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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