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San Diego top cop boasts 'we broke the NRA' as some chiefs aim for gun control
Washington Guardian ^ | January 16, 2013 | Kimberly Dvorak

Posted on 01/17/2013 1:59:49 PM PST by Altariel

Newtown massacre pushes some police chiefs beyond enforcing the law, to advocating new ones

Lawmakers and mayors aren’t the only ones ratcheting up the debate on gun control. Some big city police chiefs are also stepping into the political arena, lobbying for tighter controls that they and their officers would then enforce.

Take for instance San Diego Police Chief William Lansdowne, who in an interview last week called for tougher gun laws and clearly chafed at the influence the National Rifle Association has held for years over the national debate.

Lansdowne suggested the Newtown, Conn., massacre may have undercut the gun lobby’s power and opened the door for new gun control legislation. “We broke the NRA,” Lansdowne boasted in an off camera portion of an interview with San Diego 6 and the Washington Guardian. When asked to expound, he demurred.

The White House plans to unveil its regulatory plan Wednesday for tightening gun controls, and Lansdowne threw his support behind President Barack Obama.

"I could not be more supportive of the president for taking the position he has," he told KPBS in a separate interview. "I think it's courageous with the politics involved in this process. But I think it's going to eventually make the country safer and certainly safer for my officers that have to respond to these calls. "

The pro-gun movement is showing no sign of letting up, however.

The NRA unleashed a new video Tuesday calling Obama "an elitist hypocrite" and announced it has had a massive surge in new memberships since Newtown. Gun sales have soared as some gun owners fear new restrictions. And after a White House meeting with the NRA, Vice President Joe Biden pointedly omitted promising an assault weapons ban that he and the president have long supported, suggesting the White House would focus first on closing loopholes on gun buyers’ background checks and limiting the size of ammunition cartridges.

In fact, the NRA scoff at the notion that the tide has turned against Second Amendment supporters. “I would say that the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get assault weapons ban through this Congress,” NRA President David Keene told CNN this past weekend.

Normally, police leave the politics to politicians, or their umbrella lobbying groups. But the Sandy Hook Elementary rampage, which claimed 20 children and eight adults, has pushed many individual chiefs from their normal positions of enforcing the law to expressing political opinions and advocating legislative outcomes.

Chicago Police Chief Garry McCarthy recently was quoted as supporting several new laws that would restrict assault weapons, restrict high-capacity magazines and close a gun-show loophole on mandatory background checks.

“People are going to say that this is gun control and they’re going to take our guns,” McCarthy was quoted earlier this month saying. “We’re not looking for that. We’re looking for reasonability in the law.”

On the flip side, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, whose district suffered through the mass shooting that wounded Rep. Gabby Giffords a couple of years ago in Tucson, Ariz., is supporting the NRA's position of putting armed security in schools, and opposing tougher gun controls.

“Cities with the largest gun crime problems are New York City, Chicago and Washington DC all have one thing in common- the strictest gun laws,” he said. “This is not a gun issue, it’s a mental health issue,”

Some groups representing rank-and-file also are opposing more gun controls, like the Law Enforcement Alliance of America. “That’s because they know, better than most, that disarming honest citizens does nothing to reduce crime, but will deprive citizens of the means of defending themselves from violent predators,” the group said.

San Diego's Lansdowne, who plays an active role in the western region of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), said in the interview it may take a generation, but guns will eventually be taken off the streets through new laws.

He also has personally advocated for a legislative solution that would allow current lawful firearms owners to keep their assault weapons if new sales are banned, but prohibit assault firearms from be passed down to living relatives after death, meaning the weapon would be destroyed when the current owner dies.

Separately, IACP is advocating a ban on assault weapons, restricting high-capacity magazines, closing loopholes that allow firearm sales between private owners without background checks, future gun transfer grandfathering, and implementing much stricter background checks by using a comprehensive database.

Lansdowne also is pressing to address the mental health component that is a common denominator in many of the recent mass shootings.

“Having a national system that quickly identifies those people who are suffering from acts of violence and mental health issues,” is also key when it comes to addressing gun violence, he said.

Under Lansdowne, San Diego Police implemented the Psychiatric Emergency Response Team or (PERT), a program that pairs a licensed mental health clinician with a law enforcement officer to respond to calls dealing with psychological issues.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; firearms; guncontrol; nra; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/17/2013 1:59:52 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

No you haven’t.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 2:01:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Altariel

The NRA is twice as big as it was a month ago.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 2:01:58 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Altariel

The NRA is twice as big as it was a month ago.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:21 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Altariel

Makes sense to me - disarm law-abiding citizens while ignoring your city’s gang problem. And in the meantime, make your entire PD the enemy. Good job!

/heavy sarc


5 posted on 01/17/2013 2:03:40 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Altariel

Yup, all those gangs in the sheriff’s domain are most certainly quaking in fear over his latest gun control dictums.


6 posted on 01/17/2013 2:07:47 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Altariel
The White House plans to unveil its regulatory plan Wednesday for tightening gun controls, and Lansdowne threw his support behind President Barack Obama.

I hope Lansdowne had some Viagara in his pocket or some tribal cure for PE....

7 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:18 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Altariel

The only thing you broke was yer ulna.

Clearly you are deluded and quite touched in the head....


8 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:35 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Altariel

I live in San Diego and I want to puke every time I hear Landsdowne talk. He is a partisan Democrat party hack. He goes beyond political correctness. Last night on the local news he was gushing about the “courage” of 0bama. The two great loves in his life are 0bama and illegal aliens who cause accidents while driving without licenses and insurance.


9 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:57 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Altariel
Lansdowne seems to be saying ~ and pray it's not so ~ that he is part of a 'we' that engineered the Newtown massacre.

Then the leftwingtards wonder where the conspiracy theories come from ~ apparantly from leftwingtard cops and other nutballs over on that side.

10 posted on 01/17/2013 2:10:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Altariel

San Diego’s Top Cop lives an hour away from the city he polices. Isn’t that sweet. His force is quickly becoming a disaster. This article tries to put a happy spin on a situation that is failing fast...

http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/data-drive/article_8d95a48a-93b0-11e0-9858-001cc4c002e0.html


11 posted on 01/17/2013 2:10:27 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: forgotten man

So much for San Diego being more “conservative” than most of the state. At least among voters who put this idiot into office.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 2:10:47 PM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: Altariel

Parrot the Kenyan marxist’s line and there might be some ‘free’ drones it it for his department.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 2:12:12 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Altariel

But I think it’s going to eventually make the country safer and certainly safer for my officers that have to respond to these calls. “

Exactly what did the President say or do that will keep gang bangers, drug dealers, homicidal manics, from killing people including your officers?
You sir are a political hack, not a Police Officer...


14 posted on 01/17/2013 2:14:21 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Altariel
Amazing what you hear out of a$$hat City Police Chiefs with more stars on their shoulders than Eisenhower compared to what you hear out of county/parish Sheriffs.

Wonder why?

15 posted on 01/17/2013 2:17:59 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Altariel

There’s no better place for jackin’ it than San Diego!


16 posted on 01/17/2013 2:20:15 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: Altariel

What a moron. People like him in power is what is wrong with America.


17 posted on 01/17/2013 2:20:15 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: muawiyah
Then the leftwingtards wonder where the conspiracy theories come from ~ apparantly from leftwingtard cops and other nutballs over on that side.

With both Obama and Biden touring the country, it is almost a sure thing that the Reichstag will have a fire. I have little doubt that there will be a staged event designed to propel the over the top agenda over the top, and I would wager that Duh 1 has already talked with a certain gunrunning AG about moving into the veep slot.

Hopefully you will be able to tell me to get better tinfoil when this all settles down.

In the meantime, all the Kabuke make-up is doing a great job of burying Benghazi and Fast and Furious, not to mention the persistent absence of a budget.

18 posted on 01/17/2013 2:20:37 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Altariel

That remains to be seen.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 2:22:45 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Hopefully you will be able to tell me to get better tinfoil when this all settles down.

I'll probably need one too, because I think you're spot on *probability* wise.

20 posted on 01/17/2013 2:24:29 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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