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Pregnant Pauls Valley mother dies in jail
kfor-tv ^ | 01/07/2013 | kfor-tv

Posted on 01/11/2013 11:41:53 AM PST by Rusty0604

Her death came just hours after she went to the hospital seeking help for severe abdominal pain.

“Jamie was seeking help; she was in extreme pain,” family friend Kemper Kimberlin said.

Hospital staff reported Jamie wouldn’t cooperate, in too much pain to even lie down, so employees asked a Pauls Valley police officer to assist.

Unfortunately, when police found two prescription pills that didn’t belong to Jamie, police took her to jail for drug possession.

That’s where Jamie sat for less than two hours before being found unresponsive.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; drugabuse; drugaddict; drugs; drugwar; health; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; police; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
guess that hospital and police have their priorities
1 posted on 01/11/2013 11:41:58 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

How sad. That will cost them.


2 posted on 01/11/2013 11:44:01 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Rusty0604

Tragic ending to another over-reaction or no tolerance plan?


3 posted on 01/11/2013 11:45:55 AM PST by 3D-JOY (If there were no United States Armed Forces there would be no United States of America)
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To: 3D-JOY

that plus maybe she didn’t have insurance so the hospital got rid of her quickly.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 11:48:37 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

A lot of unanswered questions, like, where/how did they find the pills? In her purse? Did they have a warrant? Is it possible she got a couple pain pills from someone (ill-advised but understandable) due to the current/immediate pain she was experiencing? Why would the hospital (even the police) not be more concerned with her pain/pregnancy than letting her go to jail?


5 posted on 01/11/2013 11:50:33 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF

The questions concerning police action are worth asking, but I’m wondering how the hospital is going to explain releasing her as fit for incarceration? A ruptured ectopic pregnancy could have been discovered if they had done their job.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 11:56:15 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
“There is nothing my staff in the jail could’ve done differently,” Garvin County sheriff Larry Rhodes said. Sheriff Rhodes points out the hospital staff authorized Jamie’s release to their custody. “She had a medical release from the hospital stating that she was fit for incarceration,” Rhodes said.

Let the ass-covering begin!! Both the hospital and the sheriff's office should be ashamed of themselves and held to account. If the woman is in that much pain, you don't throw her in a cell.

7 posted on 01/11/2013 12:00:07 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Rusty0604

Yet another sad example of why I specifically avoid both hospitals and LEO’s. Worthless 90% of the time; never available when you really need them....and both can and will kill you.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 12:00:30 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Rusty0604
A pregnant woman is at the hospital in extreme duress and the cops think it's a good idea to arrest her and throw her in an unattended cell?

Sounds like a criminal prosecution is in order, not that it will happen.

9 posted on 01/11/2013 12:06:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Over 2 (two) prescription pills! Who says we aren’t becoming a police state?


10 posted on 01/11/2013 12:08:56 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

This is horrible.My sister had an EP lucky for her she already had a doctor who knew what her pain was probably caused from and helped her before she died like this poor lady did.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 12:22:26 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Rusty0604

very tragic

my guess is they ( ER staff and LE) thought she was a drug seeking addict putting on a show to get more narcotics and since this was an ectopic pregnancy she wasn’t obviously pregnant. Drug addicts pull this sort of thing in ER’s frequently.

shame on the ER staff that has become so jaded in their profession that they assume the worst about the patients they see before thoroughly assessing what was really going on


12 posted on 01/11/2013 12:22:44 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Rusty0604

It doesn’t say what the prescription pills were? Is it possible she had something that belonged to another child or her Mom on her...this would not be unusual for a woman to have on her....


13 posted on 01/11/2013 12:25:05 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: longfellowsmuse

Years ago I was on some medication for an irregular heartbeat. I had run out of medicine and then landed in ER on a Holiday night. I told them who my Dr. was (he was on their Board) and what happened. I answered no to the questioning about illegal cocaine or drug use. They didn’t ask me if I c/h/b/ pregnant. I had no insurance and was shocked by the bill; they charged me for drug test and pregnancy test. They said they can’t believe anything any patient tells them. I said fine, I’m not paying for it because I’m not a criminal. I finally threatened to take it to the Board and the news station before they dropped it.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 12:33:02 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: chris_bdba

Just my opinion even if it was narcotice that’s pretty bad to get locked up for 2 pills. Obviously she would have already taken them if she was “feamin”.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 12:35:42 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Dreadful. RIP.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 12:37:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Rusty0604
“She had a medical release from the hospital stating that she was fit for incarceration,” Rhodes said.

Coming soon to a gun-owner near you...

17 posted on 01/11/2013 12:39:41 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That’s why I posted this. Gov’t run hospitals and so many things that make you a criminal.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 12:43:06 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The police will say she was released from Doctor care.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 12:45:55 PM PST by Orange1998 (DO NOT PRESS CTRL W)
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To: Rusty0604

There is no situation on God’s green Earth, that the presence of a police officer will not make worse.


20 posted on 01/11/2013 12:54:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

to Rusty0604
“There is nothing my staff in the jail could’ve done differently. She had a medical release from the hospital stating that she was fit for incarceration,” Rhodes said.
Sorry, Mr Rhodes. Police are first responders and have no business incarcerating a woman showing such an array of symptoms, throwing her into a jail cell and leaving her to bleed out and die. You should have countered the hospital staff with your own judgment and insisted she be transported to another hospital, or at least brought in another doctor. I hope you never forget that an innocent woman who needed help died in your care. Gross stupidity and incompetence on your part.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 12:59:38 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: Rusty0604

A woman and her child’s life are a small price to pay to keep the drug war going. After all, 60,000 have died in Mexico in the last 5 years.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 1:09:43 PM PST by microgood
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To: Rusty0604

Yep, over 2 pills. They used to be called peace officers.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 1:23:46 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: microgood

“Another drug-related death”, as the “Ex-Police” on SNL would say.


24 posted on 01/11/2013 1:26:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Rusty0604

cold-blooded murder


25 posted on 01/11/2013 1:44:25 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Rusty0604

The hospital needs to be sued as they released her claiming she was fit to be put in jail. They should not have involved the cops, rather called in family. Nurses used to have the human relations skills to calm down people in such distress. Why could they not give her medication sitting up until she was able to lay down?

The cop was an unprofessional, evil ignoramous to arrest and lock her for the possession of two pills while she was in such distress. He could arrest her after doctors assessed her problem.

People are out of their minds. It makes you hope you are not vulnerable in the wrong place, surrounded by hyenias disguised as human beings.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 1:49:26 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: uncommonsense

I remember a story about a family member that called police to help her give insulan to her aged mother as she was in shock and not co-operating. The police proceded to taze the poor old woman.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 1:55:43 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

A pt. coming into the hospital with that much pain should’ve been examined standing up, if necessary. Something was obviously wrong. I am a retired nurse (RN). That amount of pain, even if the pt. had someone else’s pain medicine (trying to get some relief) indicates that something is terribly wrong. If she stated she was pregnant, my first thought would’ve been a tubal pregnancy, and I have never been an obstetrics nurse, except when evening supervisor and on call for the ER, LR, OR. Sadly, this may be an indicator of what is coming. If the symptoms don’t match the set they’re looking for, or someone has been using an RX not their own, I guess we might find ourselves in jail.

We’d better pray for good health! While we’re at it, let’s pray for this family! This is an outrage.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 2:09:46 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Rusty0604
"called police to help her give insulan to her aged mother as she was in shock and not co-operating. The police proceded to taze the poor old woman."

Right after he shot the family pet...?

The thuggary is so completely out of hand. They need to have their job and pensions taken, then put them in the can so they get a taste of their own medicine. 2 pills - so put a suffering pregnant woman in jail to die. Criminal. Sickening.

29 posted on 01/11/2013 2:27:03 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Rusty0604
Another drug fiend that will never again pollute this nation's precious bodily fluids. </sarcasm>
30 posted on 01/11/2013 2:55:03 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Rusty0604

I hope their insurance is paid up


31 posted on 01/11/2013 3:48:54 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Rusty0604

This is why you *always* use the buddy system in a hospital. If anything happens to the person who needs to go to the hospital, there is somebody there to watch over them.

This rule applies doubly for the elderly. Even if they are fully awake and alert, many hospitals will automatically triage them to the end of the line. This is why they should be accompanied by somebody young, strong, and who looks very pissed off and looking for an excuse.

A curled lip and a snarl may very well save somebody’s life, where helplessness and humbleness will get somebody killed.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 4:23:36 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Amen!


33 posted on 01/11/2013 4:50:33 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

A couple more basic words of wisdom:

1) If you want to stay healthy, stay away from the doctor.
2) Never sign anything.
3) Never let anyone take your shoes.
4) If you seek Justice... stay away from the judicial system.
5) Most problems of the human condition can be solved with an appropiately applied amount of high explosives.
6) Never overlook an opportunity to keep your big mouth shut.


34 posted on 01/11/2013 6:49:36 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Just what I was thinking.


35 posted on 01/12/2013 9:27:50 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Very true.


36 posted on 01/12/2013 9:36:43 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: chris_bdba

Indeed. Many women on Free Republic could find themselves felons if the wrong LEO found their children’s or their elderly parents’ medications in their purse.

Another reason why the war on drugs really has nothing to do with drugs, but was implemented to control and intimidate the American citizenry.


37 posted on 01/13/2013 7:17:55 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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